Never been to Issan. Is there anything really worth seeing there?

[ALFREDO]

14 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

The gates obviously have to be locked constantly. 

What do you have currently?

 

Socialised the hell out of the Caucasian, she is pretty good now. 

Will do the same with the Fila, but slightly different as their disliking for strangers is slightly stronger. 

I made a 2 door style gate - so was easier to stop the dogs going out with people or children.

 

Currently only a bunch of Thai dogs from Gf family I take care off, as most Thais and my Thai family,

do have dogs but not care much. 

I changed the province, Gf and relationship - new place different circumstances. 

 

The FILA, as it is said is very protective to his family he knows, special his owner and can be a problem - even with a new Gf, lol 

 

I just heard of two litters of Bordeaux dogs near Khon Kaen, I visited that place some years ago,

they had 21 puppies now, but sadly all died with 3 or 4 weeks from PARVOVIRUS, which is common here in my village too!

 

Should you get Puppies let me know, thank you - I possibly interested, special maybe in a boy. 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2017 by ALFREDO

[electric]

One of the really appealing aspects about Isaan for me, is the total lack of hordes of Western/Chinese tourists. It's nice. You get the feeling that everything you see and experience in Isaan is real Thai .... not tizzed up for tourists.

 

There are plenty of intriguing and interesting sights in Isaan to wow visitors, and locals also. You just have to do a lot of research beforehand. Having a Thai partner is essential once you're on the road, but pretty useless in the planning stage.

 

I've come to the conclusion that Thai's generally are not great travellers within their own country, and often know very little about worthy attractions.

 

My wife has lived in Buriram her entire life, and yet had never seen the Mekong River until she accompanied me to Savannakhet several years ago. Her comment .... wow, big mee nam.

 

OP ..... a tip for planning a visit to Isaan. Research the internet for tour companies offering tour packages to NE Thailand. There are quite a few of them. Read their itineraries. Get a decent map. Pick attractions that interest you. Don't pre-book accommodation. There are endless empty resorts for 500 baht per night.

[Jip99]

2 hours ago, wildewillie89 said:

Isaan is 'relatively cheap', if discussing every day items. A fried rice dish at a restaurant in my city is 35 baht, whereas in the village it is 30 baht. Go to Bangkok and the like and that same dish in a similar restaurant will be 3-5 times higher. I would have thought your big grocery stores would also be slightly more expensive in richer areas.

Housing and the advantages of housing vs apartments (cheaper land, and also cheaper electricity and water bills). 

 

Really, it is only non-food shopping items that are more expensive (bought bulk in Bkk and sold on here). Most people probably go to Bangkok at least once a year so will just get all the things they need then (if they are concerned about the slight increase in cost). 

The wife and I are able to save 15,000 baht per month, which will only increase as her salary increases (paying a homeloan, insurance schemes for the kids, bills, one child, another on the way, 2 giant breed dogs (fed raw meat). I very much doubt that would be possible if we lived in central Thailand.  
 

 

 

I can can buy cheaper in MAKRO in Pattaya than I can in MAKRO Buriram - to say nothing of the variety, and very often quality. I have saved 8 Baht a kilo on potatoes (used to use 4 x 10kg p.w.), 50 Baht on a box of San Miguel and 60 Baht on a bottle of Prosecco. Salmon King 150g salmon steaks were 79 Baht in Tesco Lotus, Pattaya vs 89 Baht in TL, Lahansai.

 

Then consider what is available (quality, price and availability)when you go to Friendship, Best supermarket, Food Mart, Foodland etc. If you think there is no difference in bigger stores just compare TOPS in, say, SURIN with TOPS in Central Festival.....try telling me there is no difference.

 

In Pattaya I can get kwitiow for 40 Baht that knocks the socks off anything I have had in Isaan and pad krappow (of decent quality) can be had for 35 Baht. Choice and quality scores big time over Isaan.

 

I can then wash that down with a large bottle of LEO (or Chang) at a bar for 65 Baht, whereas, in a like for like comparison, in Buriram I would pay 80 Baht.

 

Even accommodation is subjective (and I already conceded that one) because I can't find a 38 sqm one bed condo with swimming pool, gym, cafeteria and 50 Mbps wifi for 9,000 Baht in Buriram ?.

 

electric makes a good point; there are many Russians about (although I have come to accept them as they are rarely an issue) and if a tour bus load of Chinese, from a neighboring hotel, has descended on the local Tesco Lotus I will turnaround and come back later. They are a nightmare and, although. I not a racist, I would be happy if I never saw another Chinese tourist.

 

I would argue that I have the best of both worlds, enjoying my 20+ rai of Isaan and my condo at the seaside...... dividing my time as I see fit.

Edited August 16, 2017 by Jip99

[ALFREDO]

36 minutes ago, Jip99 said:

 

 enjoying my 20+ rai of Isaan 

"my 20+ rai of Isaan"

 

Yours? How you do that,  that it is yours?     

[Ace of Pop]

"my 20+ rai of Isaan"
 
Yours? How you do that,  that it is yours?     

20 Rai in Isarn costs less than this phone.[emoji337]️?


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[ALFREDO]

1 minute ago, Ace of Pop said:

20 Rai in Isarn costs less than this phone.️?


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First - I think you underestimate the Isaan land prices for good land near village and easy reachable,

connected to road, electricity possibly water - nice land same -Jip99- owns? 

 

I questioned the ownership of -Jip99-  lol  

 

By the way - what kind of Telephone you have - worth 2+ Million Baht ? 

[transam]

42 minutes ago, ALFREDO said:

"my 20+ rai of Isaan"

 

Yours? How you do that,  that it is yours?     

I do know a bloke that thought the huge lump of land he bought belongs to him because he "later" married his bird....

 

 

 

[Blinky62]

Now in what will probably be the last year of staying in Thailand before I leave it for ever.
Although I have been visiting Thailand since the 1970s, I never went to Issan.
Is there anything good enough there that I won't find elsewhere in LOS that I should make the effort to see?
 
Thanks.

Many many sexy lady's , that's where they all come from .


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[wildewillie89]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

I can can buy cheaper in MAKRO in Pattaya than I can in MAKRO Buriram - to say nothing of the variety, and very often quality. I have saved 8 Baht a kilo on potatoes (used to use 4 x 10kg p.w.), 50 Baht on a box of San Miguel and 60 Baht on a bottle of Prosecco. Salmon King 150g salmon steaks were 79 Baht in Tesco Lotus, Pattaya vs 89 Baht in TL, Lahansai.

 

Then consider what is available (quality, price and availability)when you go to Friendship, Best supermarket, Food Mart, Foodland etc. If you think there is no difference in bigger stores just compare TOPS in, say, SURIN with TOPS in Central Festival.....try telling me there is no difference.

 

In Pattaya I can get kwitiow for 40 Baht that knocks the socks off anything I have had in Isaan and pad krappow (of decent quality) can be had for 35 Baht. Choice and quality scores big time over Isaan.

 

I can then wash that down with a large bottle of LEO (or Chang) at a bar for 65 Baht, whereas, in a like for like comparison, in Buriram I would pay 80 Baht.

 

Even accommodation is subjective (and I already conceded that one) because I can't find a 38 sqm one bed condo with swimming pool, gym, cafeteria and 50 Mbps wifi for 9,000 Baht in Buriram ?.

 

electric makes a good point; there are many Russians about (although I have come to accept them as they are rarely an issue) and if a tour bus load of Chinese, from a neighboring hotel, has descended on the local Tesco Lotus I will turnaround and come back later. They are a nightmare and, although. I not a racist, I would be happy if I never saw another Chinese tourist.

 

I would argue that I have the best of both worlds, enjoying my 20+ rai of Isaan and my condo at the seaside...... dividing my time as I see fit.

I think that probably hits it on the head. Everyone has different circumstances and lifestyles. For me, a lot of it relates to the family in many ways that helps make things cheaper. No way would I ever have enough money to go and live in a tourist place and get what I have now (3 bedroom house). Well maybe, but the Mrs would have to take out a loan a lot bigger than her current loan - which I would find silly/selfish to do. I couldn't justify saving a few baht on potatoes, but spending several million baht more on accommodation. 

We lived in an apartment for a while in our city. Just the one room with aircon ended up costing twice as much for electricity than are 3 bedroom house with 3 aircons, fridge, washing machine, oven, big tv, etc. 

 Other than the dogs, the only food we pay for is snacks or if eat out (which we do sometimes). The mother-in-law loves cooking so sends over lunches and dinners. So in terms of our personal situation, living in Isaan is much cheaper re meals per day. As a lot of the food cooked comes from the farm (other than meat and the odd vegetable/fruit). Also being the 'token farang', people are always trying to ram free food/alcohol down your throat, something that would not happen as much in other bigger cities. Not many days go past where colleagues are not sending me home with food for the Mrs and our child. 

I don't think I could handle living in a condo type situation. Especially in Pattaya. It is not the prettiest of places one can choose to spend the amount of money that it takes. I am quite big so like the space, not to mention I couldn't have massive dogs in the condo lol. 

Quality probably depends on how good people are at finding good stuff. I personally couldn't care less, but as we know Thai love their food - so the wife does. Generally speaking I find the fried rice I have in my home to be better than any fried rice in tourist places though. But I eat to live, so I am no expert on food. 

Drinking, I do not drink, but I get half price off alcohol at the biggest bar/club here due to family. So it probably comes down to personal circumstances/preferences/lifestyles. 

 

Edited August 16, 2017 by wildewillie89

[transam]

4 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

I think that probably hits it on the head. Everyone has different circumstances and lifestyles. For me, a lot of it relates to the family in many ways that helps make things cheaper. No way would I ever have enough money to go and live in a tourist place and get what I have now (3 bedroom house). Well maybe, but the Mrs would have to take out a loan a lot bigger than her current loan - which I would find silly/selfish to do. I couldn't justify saving a few baht on potatoes, but spending several million baht more on accommodation. 

We lived in an apartment for a while in our city. Just the one room with aircon ended up costing twice as much for electricity than are 3 bedroom house with 3 aircons, fridge, washing machine, oven, big tv, etc. 

 Other than the dogs, the only food we pay for is snacks or if eat out (which we do sometimes). The mother-in-law loves cooking so sends over lunches and dinners. So in terms of our personal situation, living in Isaan is much cheaper re meals per day. As a lot of the food cooked comes from the farm (other than meat and the odd vegetable/fruit). Also being the 'token farang', people are always trying to ram free food/alcohol down your throat, something that would not happen as much in other bigger cities. Not many days go past where colleagues are not sending me home with food for the Mrs and our child. 

I don't think I could handle living in a condo type situation. Especially in Pattaya. It is not the prettiest of places one can choose to spend the amount of money that it takes. I am quite big so like the space, not to mention I couldn't have massive dogs in the condo lol. 

Quality probably depends on how good people are at finding good stuff. I personally couldn't care less, but as we know Thai love their food - so the wife does. Generally speaking I find the fried rice I have in my home to be better than any fried rice in tourist places though. But I eat to live, so I am no expert on food. 

Drinking, I do not drink, but I get half price off alcohol at the biggest bar/club here due to family. So it probably comes down to personal circumstances/preferences/lifestyles. 

 

Half price beer probably because you don't drink beer....

[Ace of Pop]

You just said Land, Not Commercial land, or close to HiWays n Towns, so just  if anyone should even want it your lucky. Phones errm my error , we were just talking phones.

[wildewillie89]

Just now, transam said:

Half price beer probably because you don't drink beer....

It is the biggest waste in the world some may think. I have used the benefit once in the last 18 months. Young family life now haha

[wildewillie89]

3 hours ago, ALFREDO said:

I made a 2 door style gate - so was easier to stop the dogs going out with people or children.

 

Currently only a bunch of Thai dogs from Gf family I take care off, as most Thais and my Thai family,

do have dogs but not care much. 

I changed the province, Gf and relationship - new place different circumstances. 

 

The FILA, as it is said is very protective to his family he knows, special his owner and can be a problem - even with a new Gf, lol 

 

I just heard of two litters of Bordeaux dogs near Khon Kaen, I visited that place some years ago,

they had 21 puppies now, but sadly all died with 3 or 4 weeks from PARVOVIRUS, which is common here in my village too!

 

Should you get Puppies let me know, thank you - I possibly interested, special maybe in a boy. 

 

 

 

 

I put a little gate in the bigger gate to make it a bit easier. What I usually do is chain the dogs up for the 15 seconds it takes to drive the car in. Have chains about 10 metres from the gate with clips so it takes all of a few seconds.

Yes, Thai dogs unfortunately do not have the best lives. We looked after the in-law Retriever for a while, but it had issues with the Caucasian when she got bigger than her (both females). So she went back. But she copped a tick disease, so at least the in-laws now see the importance of medicating the dog (least she's not itchy anymore). 

There is something that looks like a Bordeaux in our village, it came from Bkk. I should ask the owners what it is (chances are they will have no idea). The guy across the road has a GS they tried to breed with it. But unsuccessful. 

Yep, unfortunately farang over vaccinate in Thai and Thai under vaccinate (both not good). Unlikely, I will breed unless I can find many credible buyers. My cousin here has a Fila he wants to breed with mine, but I will wait and see how the hips shape up and how much interest there is (from people who have had experience). Cant see me breeding my Caucasian though...although if the local vets can only do normal spaying and are not skilled enough to take out all the uterus and leave in the ovaries at her age then it may change things. Wait and see (both still very young).  

Edited August 16, 2017 by wildewillie89

[transam]

3 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

It is the biggest waste in the world some may think. I have used the benefit once in the last 18 months. Young family life now haha

Well many of us do have a life and like a beer, glass of wine or even Champers in our life because it doesn't totally control our life...Weeeeell, mine it does a bit...

[ALFREDO]

1 hour ago, ALFREDO said:

"my 20+ rai of Isaan"

 

Yours? How you do that,  that it is yours?     

 

41 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said:

20 Rai in Isarn costs less than this phone.️?


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33 minutes ago, ALFREDO said:

First - I think you underestimate the Isaan land prices for good land near village and easy reachable,

connected to road, electricity possibly water - nice land same -Jip99- owns? 

 

I questioned the ownership of -Jip99-  lol  

 

By the way - what kind of Telephone you have - worth 2+ Million Baht ? 

 

13 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said:

You just said Land, Not Commercial land, or close to HiWays n Towns, so just  if anyone should even want it your lucky. Phones errm my error , we were just talking phones.

My dear -Ace of Pop- 

I wrote about the 20Rai of land "owned" by -Jip99- he surely has no cheapest land in the far behind jungle - when he stay there, lives there I think.

Anyway -its not about what it is worth - its the ownership that made me ask him - how he did that - owning land in Thailand -

so in his name.  

Edited August 16, 2017 by ALFREDO

[wildewillie89]

10 minutes ago, transam said:

Well many of us do have a life and like a beer, glass of wine or even Champers in our life because it doesn't totally control our life...Weeeeell, mine it does a bit...

Would rather spend the time with the little one and the dogs than guys 3 times my age even if I was paid to drink the stuff.

[Ace of Pop]

4 minutes ago, ALFREDO said:

 

 

 

My dear -Ace of Pop- 

I wrote about the 20Rai of land "owned" by -Jip99- he surely has no cheapest land in the far behind jungle - when he stay there,

lives there I think.

Anyway -its not about waht it is worth - its the ownership that made me ask him - how he did that - owning land in Thailand -

so in his name.  

You dont own it. We {Mrs} inherited a load of it and cant sell it.Yeh buyers offer peanuts for it, so yer just give it to the kids in the end. 

[transam]

Just now, wildewillie89 said:

Would rather spend the time with the little one and the dogs than guys 3 times my age even if I was paid to drink the stuff.

That is cool...But l don't understand your "age" comment.....

[Ace of Pop]

1 minute ago, transam said:

That is cool...But l don't understand your "age" comment.....

Neither do I, even my Dogs Luv Beer.

[wildewillie89]

Just now, transam said:

That is cool...But l don't understand your "age" comment.....

Well whenever I have gone to bars (all over the country whilst travelling before moving here), they are full of people quite a bit older than me. Almost always do they come up and talk to me. The odd one is a good chat, but more often than not most conversations revolve around complaining about something, or to talk to me about their sex lives. So being 27, spending time with my child and dogs is a much more enjoyable life than listening to that sort of stuff. 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

Well whenever I have gone to bars (all over the country whilst travelling before moving here), they are full of people quite a bit older than me. Almost always do they come up and talk to me. The odd one is a good chat, but more often than not most conversations revolve around complaining about something, or to talk to me about their sex lives. So being 27, spending time with my child and dogs is a much more enjoyable life than listening to that sort of stuff. 

For sure, one of the reasons I don't go out much, but as you said there is the odd one that was OK, could have been me.....If he ended up singing it was....

[ALFREDO]

15 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said:

I put a little gate in the bigger gate to make it a bit easier. What I usually do is chain the dogs up for the 15 seconds it takes to drive the car in. Have chains about 10 metres from the gate with clips so it takes all of a few seconds.

There is something that looks like a Bordeaux in our village, it came from Bkk. I should ask the owners what it is (chances are they will have no idea). The guy across the road has a GS they tried to breed with it. But unsuccessful. 

 Cant see me breeding my Caucasian though...

I had kennels - had more dogs - need that when feeding too

 

A pure breed Bordeaux is expensive 

 

Just breed the Caucasian with your Fila and make a cheap good price and ok for me, 

 

Just saw Thais who had near Sakhon Nakhon a Bordeaux - Staffordshire Terrier or similar litter, sold them for 2.000 0r 3.000? Baht -

I came to late.

 

 

 

[ALFREDO]

17 minutes ago, Ace of Pop said:

You dont own it. We {Mrs} inherited a load of it and cant sell it.Yeh buyers offer peanuts for it, so yer just give it to the kids in the end. 

 

I know - BUT our colleague wrote "my 20 Rai" so I responded  lol.  

[wildewillie89]

10 minutes ago, ALFREDO said:

I had kennels - had more dogs - need that when feeding too

 

A pure breed Bordeaux is expensive 

 

Just breed the Caucasian with your Fila and make a cheap good price and ok for me, 

 

Just saw Thais who had near Sakhon Nakhon a Bordeaux - Staffordshire Terrier or similar litter, sold them for 2.000 0r 3.000? Baht -

I came to late.

 

 

 

Wouldn't trust it lol. There is a farang selling Filas, and Tosa Inu up in Isaan...but I couldn't trust it. Saw a video of one of the dogs running that looked suspect. Asked him for a few hundred baht xray and he couldn't even be bothered with that. Kinda rung alarm bells.

Edited August 16, 2017 by wildewillie89

[55Jay]

OP:  If you've gone 40 odd years in Thailand without visiting the Northeast. 

 

And you still have to ask.....

 

Then no, might as well continue giving it a miss. 

 

Moreover, it'll spare us scrolling through the thread you would create after the trip, moaning about how bad it was.

[NanLaew]

On 8/15/2017 at 7:45 AM, davidst01 said:

come and see the best looking girls in thailand. 

...and their moms!

[LennyW]

Round 5 & 6 of the TSS at Chang International Circuit this weekend, Buriram.

http://www.thailandsuperseries.net/home.php

[NanLaew]

On 8/15/2017 at 7:52 AM, Jip99 said:

 

 

Except that a significant amount have relocated to Pattaya..... might as well meet them there. ?

 

 

Yeah... like +20 years ago!

[Justgrazing]

And don't forget to take in a bit of Bullfighting where you'll be able to mingle with some of the real " earthy  " people of Isaan .. 

[Justgrazing]

On 15/08/2017 at 1:45 AM, davidst01 said:

come and see the best looking girls in thailand. 

The not so good lookers are gonna feel abit left out by that Dave and you know how they tend to take things personally here ..