TechnikaIII Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 19 hours ago, Dipterocarp said: I have an advanced degree, don't want to work here anyway. Can't I get a 4 year smart VISA to "stay" in Thailand? Just wanting to stay here another 4 years could be viewed as the opposite of smart, therefore you'd be disqualified upon application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morakot Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 hours ago, micmichd said: Would it be possible to change from retirement to smart visa? Presumably only if you're indenting to go back to work, by resuming your profession... But why would one like to do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fforest1 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 18 minutes ago, ujayujay said: Whats the definition of highly skilled? A job that relates to the 10 chosen fields which definitely does not include anything related to tourist,teaching,bars,restaurants, small businesses,hotels,farms.... But a big soulless high-tech manufacture just might cut the mustard..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupermarineS6B Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Oh yeah, let's wait for the price........ Looks as though you'll have to pay to fart shortly...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Lets see the details.. thats where the devil usually lies.. This may fit me (Owner and MD of 3 active corporations, angel investor of one fintech startup, 2 international corps, turnover close to 10 mil gbp turnover, looking at over 100 staff next year).. I have no Thai staff or operations, I am in and out routinely and doing so makes the marriage visa hard to extend, I am not old enough for retirement. The last 2 years I have dropped back to multi entry marriage visas an annually applying (even then my constant travel makes it less easy than you would assume). On paper, this fits my needs, my lifestyle, and I fit thier spec of investor, owner, and skilled management professional. Of course being Thais they might set non business standards like degrees, education standards, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinLOS Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, eeyang wah said: The concept of coming here to conduct business but not actually "working" makes sense to me. What's to stop you having meetings? I'm sure if for some strange reason immigration or department of labor were to catch you just talking to people, they could not feasibly do you for not having a work permit! Especially if you had this type of visa. They are trying to catch people who are doing manual work or handling cash or otherwise obviously working, I don't think this includes just talking to people. You can 'think' what you like.. Managers and meetings are covered by the 14 day work permit exemption, which must be applied for accompanying a B visa and accompanying sponsorship letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie61 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 21 hours ago, Raymonddiaz said: highly skilled professionals????........not to many will be qualified for that visa. More professional than the Immigration Department, which publishes their ejaculation in Thai, rather than the language of their target group. This will be another non-starter, just like the 5+5 retirement visa. Someone in that department needs a functioning brain..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddox41 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 What cracks me up is they bring in new visas and have no information about them it same same But at least here you have options unlike other countries Marriage Visa Elite visa Retirement visa This skilled visa Bussiness visa You think you can have that choice like where I'm from in Australia answer is NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidream Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 It sounds to me that it is a multiple entry B Visa with a 4 year expiration date. The maximum extension of stay without visiting Immigration will most likely be 1 year. However, as one poster mentioned- the devil is in the details. What documentation is needed. What will be the education requirements if any and what type of business registration is needed if any. There are many successful entrepreneurs in the World who have little formal education but have established money making businesses in a variety of countries and have made a great deal of money. They take reasonable chances and these are the type of people that Thailand can benefit from. I am hoping that formal education requirements will not stop them from coming under this Visa scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 21 hours ago, Lingba said: ..and how much do the investors who are applying for this visa have to invest??...another law being passed with more gray areas than a thunder storm 'Grey' areas.....highly skilled professional....highly unlikely!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bberrythailand Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Thai women always tell me that I am highly skilled, so maybe I just need to get paid to apply ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieterWiehe Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 22 hours ago, gandalf12 said: What do they consider as "Highly Skilled"? If one can drill inside your own nose without breaking your finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckThai Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The question is, who is getting juiced? We all know nothing gets done here unless someone gets their entitled dues, or their "cut". I'm not being cynical, just pragmatic. The fly in the ointment will be the paperwork hurdles, the fee and the intermediaries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAS21 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, SouthernDelight said: Industrial sites/plants are designed and build by 'highly skilled' professionals; Developing countries employ these people for specific times and projects. Modern plants do not require this type of "highly skilled" ability to operate the day-to-day activities and is usually handed to (prior) trained natives. I was being frivolous .... The last CCGT station that I was involved in commissioning was push button start ... as they all are now. (prior) trained natives!!... . Of the operational staff at Barking CCGT only one was an ex power station person. Nearly all the rest were from the oil industry who knew nothing about boilers, steam turbines and some not that much gas turbines. They were selected mainly on the results of psychometric testing. If you are inferring that the were 'natives' in a derogatory sense, it very misplaced. They were some of the brightest personnel I have ever been involved in training ......... Edited August 19, 2017 by JAS21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 This is probably the new visa for digital nomads. No need for a work permit since our business is abroad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingdoc Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I really wonder sometimes!! Why make an announcement like this, without any details??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Okay, that's a start. If they can do that for professionals, how about they do the same for those married to Thais. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gandalf12 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, DieterWiehe said: If one can drill inside your own nose without breaking your finger No that isnt it, the Thais are good at that. Have another go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightTalk Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, JAS21 said: If you are inferring that the were 'natives' in a derogatory sense, it very misplaced. This remark was uncalled for, it is nothing but speculation; Your conclusion is inappropriate! Natives are persons or indigenous persons born in a particular place or country. The 'derogatory' interpretation came from a bygone colonial era. My post served to be cordial, informative and inoffensive but admit it can be characterized differently by those with negative mental attitude, oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon43 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I have an MSc in Microwave Comms from UCL and worked for years in the space and satellite business as a... rocket scientist. Yonks ago (maybe 12 years or so), there was a vacancy advertised to head up Thailand's fledgling space R&D organisation. I applied and passed all the criteria for the job, except one ..... I wasn't Thai. Still, this visa could be good news for me if I ever decide to return from my enjoyable life in Myanmar :) [ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabis Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 "for up to four years without applying for a work permit" Ho-hum, does this mean the "smart" visa holders can work without a work permit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, jabis said: "for up to four years without applying for a work permit" Ho-hum, does this mean the "smart" visa holders can work without a work permit? It's comments like that (4 years without a work permit) that lead me to suspect that there will be a hefty investment required, and/or a requirement to employ Thai people. Though I wish Balo were correct, I'm forecasting a modified investor visa that basically gives an investor 4 years to build up the business before having to go through some of the formalities like getting a WP. I just can't see them giving anyone, no matter how skilled up, 4 years without getting a wad of cash out of their pocket. And I'm also making 2 more forecasts: 1) It won't happen before 2019 and 2) When (if) it does happen, the details will be a disappointment. For the guy lamenting the negatives here, it's too heartbreaking to get your hopes built up again and again by incomplete proclamations, only to have those hopes dashed on the rocks when the details are known. (Like the much anticipated new 10 year visa that's actually costlier than an Elite Visa when lost interest income is factored in). I hope I'm wrong, but I know which way I'd bet my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thhMan Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Im guessing requirements are.. You must be Chinese The skill must be in the High Speed Train industry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaunduhpostman Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 The catch being that you may, depending on your location and luck, still have to deal with an arbitrary situation in which the rules are not transparent and even if they were wouldn't necessarily be applied fairly. They need to get better people to work as officials who are on the level and not simply on the take or too selfish to help people trying to negotiate the difficulties of remaining legally in this country. New visas will create problems for the older programs. There will be that much less focus and dedication to them. These new visas are bad news and show, not that we are surprised, that there is likely little to no interest in a revamp or serious attempt at improvement of services or transparency on the horizon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XBroker Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Most of us/you don't qualify, so I think 7 pages on this topic is way premature. It isn't policy yet; and the woman in the photograph is smiling about something else, she's clearly not qualified for this. And that is my ray of sunshine for the day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nord X Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 2 hours ago, balo said: This is probably the new visa for digital nomads. No need for a work permit since our business is abroad. No, it's a visa for government projects, ie the high speed rail project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadgw Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Sorry but there is NOTHING SMART about this visa and NOTHING SMART about the people who are the brainwaves behind it. Have these 'brainwaves' ever thought about the average guy who is here retired on a 1 year retirement visa, has bought a house or is renting long term, supporting his gf or wife / family, spends money daily on food, kids, beer electrics, water, family etc. etc. basically putting money into the thai system every day. Do they ever think how much money is poured into the economy every day by these average retired guys... they seem to not be able to see the wood from the trees!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOD Robin Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 8/18/2017 at 5:54 PM, smedly said: seems to me that someone is listening, Thailand needs highly skilled foreigners, the realisation of that fact is a first for Thailand and almost a public declaration that they do not have the people in house to perform certain tasks and manage certain projects, it could be to facilitate people involved in the construction of the high speed rail network and possibly many other tasks that Thailand does not have the ability to do themselves, they may also be looking closely at other countries such as the UK who rely on foreign workers to fill professional gaps that cannot be filled by UK nationals On the face of it - another great idea that might attract much needed expertise in many areas that are severely lacking. "another great idea....." ANOTHER ?????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stardust314 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 i hope it will be expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Tuft Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 13 hours ago, gummy said: And the usual TV supporters of the Junta regime trying to oppress the opinions of others !!! Oh for goodness sake. You've totally got it wrong mate if you're referring to me. Try and be a bit more clever if you're trying to bait me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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