KhunHeineken

Thailand doesn't let foreigners "self assess" their visas, so I can't see them letting foreigners "self assess" their tax liability.

Yes. You could call it a prediction, even. I don't know why the other members thinks I am saying it's a fact. We all know it's not being implemented as yet. Perhaps English is not his first language.

Once again, I have never said it was a fact. If it was a fact, it would be already happening. It is my opinion, but also the opinion of many others, including professionals.

Yes, it's my opinion. I never said it was a fact. If it was a fact, it would be happening already. What's your point?

I don't need to convince anyone of anything. Everyone will have to make their own decision in regards to this tax policy. I am simply suggesting the Thai are not going to let foreigners simply do nothing. Many others, including professionals in the industry, are of the same opinion. I accept this, but hey, TiT. One must make TiT work for them. What about all those that drive / ride drunk. have a property in a Thai Company and / or using Thai nominees, engage the services of prostitutes, have a fake marriage so it's 400k not 800k, failure to get a TM30 etc etc. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. I will. I'll have a TRD document proving I have filed and paid.

Answer this question. How did you prove to them you have no tax liability. Ohhhh, that's right, you didn't. You must be the most naive person on the planet, endlessly posting about how things will NEVER happen in one of the most corrupt, 3rd World Countries, where you have no rights. Wake up to yourself. This is not an immigration offense, This is a criminal offense. Breach it. and open you wallet, big time. How many times do members have to say it? Is English your first language? It's inevitable the Thai government will use the immigration laws to push expats into a TRD Office to prove source of income. That means, they don't come to you, they make you go to the TRD office, or no extension for you. Get it? So what? How is that relevant to this tax policy in 2025? Thai banks report your remittances, and they know when you must show for your extension. This was he whole point of "the Thai's can't do it, they would have to employ 5000 more TRD staff to chase foreigners all over Thailand " argument. Noooo, just say no extension without TRD paper. Problem solved. Farang no must go TRD Office first. Simple, right???? Yes, rocket science.

That's "The Somchai Shuffle." Some Somchai say you have to pay when you do not have to pay, and some Somchai say you don't have to pay when you know you do have to pay.

Albo's in trouble. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-02-16/peter-dutton-anthony-albanese-election-polling/104941326 All Dutton has to do is keep his mouth shut and he'll "do a Morrison." "How good is Australia?"

Yes, for trolling me. Are you so incapable of posting some content?

I've always said I will be using an agent. Nothing has changed from that. I want as little dealings with Thai officials as possible, and I'm happy to pay for that privilege. The agent says he can also "negotiate" my tax liability. Some business owner friends here have confirmed this possibility also. Too funny. Real 3rd World Country stuff. I'll give it all a try this time around. See how it goes. I will will be legal, and rest well. I'll have that magic document that means I am good for 12 months, no matter what the Thai's do. Unlike yourself, I actually hold his tax policy, which does have criminal offenses attached to it, in the same regard as immigration policy, and that is, it is imperative to comply.

Funny how when you let people "self assess" they all say they owe NO MONEY. How long before they put a stop to that????

He went from saying none of Thai tax policy can possibly work, to saying he expects "some kind of domestic tax clearance system" in the future. Funny thing is, if I, or another member says it, it's scaremongering, but if he says it, it's fine.

Do you think such action would be a good way of covering one's a** in regards to this tax policy? Sure, and I understand your position. However, you MAY be asked to prove such at extension time, or at an airport, in the future, and in my opinion, neither one of these will be a simple 5 minute task. Good Luck with doing NOTHING. Maybe it will work out, maybe it will not. I will file and have a certificate, so I know I will be fine. Each to their own, and I wish everyone the best with their decision.

More great content from you. Don't let the Mod's see this. They will probably delete it for trolling.

The money's long gone. I do wonder if the wife was involved in this.

And you don't think the Thai's will make expats "factually prove" their income source? If they don't, every expat will not file. If they do, how do you think they will make expats do it?

OP title says 15.2 million baht. I wouldn't call it life destroying, but I would call it a significant amount.

Thai vagina's are like Pattaya baht buses. There will be another one come along in 2 minutes.

Succumbing to the pressure from a Thai wife / GF is the individual's fault. They wouldn't try it on with a Thai guy, but farang are soft, and they know it. Try it one with me, and she can go back to her 300 baht a day job, or the bar, or whatever. Even if I did have a Thai wife / GF, I would still "pay as I go." She would be well looked after, even after I pass, but no big ticket assets in her name, as to run the risk of joining the big club of those who have been done over here before, and at present, and into the future.

He's not the only one recommending the same. Over the years, there have been some condo's in my block for sale. Based on what they sold for, leaving that that money in a bank in my home country, the interest more than pays my rent, and I have no maintenance, fees, and taxes to pay, also, I have freedom of movement should the condo block be turned into a AirBnB hotel, or a Thai nightclub open to 7am opens next door. Not to mention, the condo block ages and depreciates, and they are building more and more condo blocks. I also don't leave a problem in Thailand for my kids when I have passed. Given the above, why would I even consider buying in my own condo block?

On the basis of "TiT" there MAY be a need in the future for individuals to show why they didn't file. As I have said, imagine every single expat simply saying, "My income is non assessable" even when it is actually assessable. It can't be that easy to avoid this tax. At some point, they are going to want to see proof of source. They already know the amounts, just not the source. A tax policy without enforcement is no tax policy at all. This policy will evolve. Be prepared.

Gambling is illegal in Thailand.

Watch 13:10 to 13:45. He changes his mind. He can see a "domestic clearance" being needed. He's your buddy. Why did he change his outlook????

Yes, we all know that. Are you kidding? At the moment, under the "self assessment" model, foreigners can simply say, "all my remittances are non assessable income." That's it. Nothing to ensure compliance. The reason why the order MAY come from Bangkok to immigration officers to demand a TRD document is to push every foreign tax resident who needs a visa / extension to go a TRD Office and prove source of income. Is that soooooooo left left field to consider???? I agree, but they will just be collateral damage. Not everyone is American. You don;t say.

What about "The Somchai Shuffle" on your other visit/s? No need for a thank you. You are welcome, Scouse123. Do you have a TIN? Be sure the senior TRD officer gives you some type of document to prove the whole meting / interaction / notation on the data base actually occurs.