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16 minutes ago, Mac Mickmanus said:

Why has Jenny been in Thailand for such a long time ?

If she wants to stay in Thailand for a long time, she needs to get a long time visa .

   People cannot stay long tome on short time visas 

She had an ed visa, then COVID extensions I think, then went back to Philippines.

2 hours ago, jayceenik said:

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/liz-truss-ready-to-press-nuclear-button-tory-leadership-race_uk_6305d5e4e4b00c150d662c87

 

https://tass.com/politics/1497439

 

I very well understand the geostrategic and economic motivations of the US to wage a proxy war war against Russia in the Ukraine. That the EU vassal states follow diligently their American Leader to WWIII is clear to me too. But, though I've learned a lot about that conflict I totally fail to see what would be the profit for a Brexit UK to go nuclear against Russia, Unless the UK is truly well more vassal to the US than I thought. Because, of course the UK decision to go nuclear first against Russia will have to be approved the US.

What leader of a nuclear power is going to deny they'd ever use them? The only idiot stupid enough to do so would be Kim Wrong'un, leader of the prison colony formerly known as North Korea.

Maybe the US does have a plan. Weaken Russia to the point of capitulation? How long will that take, and cause how much damage to the global economy, and Europe?

On 8/18/2022 at 12:43 AM, 24Catty said:

This thread is hilarious.

Nobody says the obvious:

The people at WR/AIS are well known in the industry. Some of their ventures flopped, some ventures prospered, some ventures fizzled out.

Whether this one will flop or prosper they certainly don't know themselves. 

As long as Dr Boon puts his name behind the whole thing,  you should be pretty safe. How long? God knows.

 

No secrets here.

Not being part of the industry, except as a customer, I am not privy to these details. Who are "The people at WR/AIS"? Nobody seems to know. And by whom are they well known in the industry? And what other ventures have they been involved in? All sounds very murky.

3 hours ago, jayceenik said:

The drums of war are beating louder every day.

The UK Armed Forces Chief has already declared that the UK military must be ready to fight Russia any day now and asked the troops to tell their loved ones that they're soon going to war. Liz Truss has said that she is ready to go nuclear against Russia. Boris Johnson has just made a surprise visit to Zelensky to tell him not to get into peace talks with Satan Putin.

And Macron has made a very disquieting speech that has alarmed the French. Basically he said that their carefree life of abundance is over and they must be ready for "sacrifices"  and privations from now on. Did he mean WWIII is coming? 

Enormous strategic and financial interests are at stake to make this Ukraine proxy war to go on and maybe develop into a full scale WWIII. Maybe nuclear.

 

 

I don't believe the nuclear war mongers. All bets would be off. Russia would disappear off the map, as would most of Europe, so what the heck would be the point?  If China got involved....? Well I really don't think that's ever going to happen. Despite their apparent support for Putin, they are nowhere near stupid enough to get dragged into that. In fact quite the opposite. And the same goes for India and Pakistan. North Korea wouldn't last long under a hail of US warheads either.

I can't believe Truss ever came out with such a stupid statement, but maybe you have a source for that.

Sure, things could escalate. Putin will whine like sxxx if European bases are used to repel his wretched wreckers. An air led defense has a much greater potential I would imagine than land based. It would be in Ukraine airspace, a friendly territory. Any incursions by Moscow would immediately be flagged as a violation of international law, and an act of war.

But it seems the world is just watching and waiting, but for what is anybody's guess. How bad does it have to get? I think if the US and Europe got themselves together, not sure really what Putin's answer would be. He would only use nuclear in retaliation or in response to an existential threat to Russia, something that, despite his rubbish rhetoric, has never been on the cards.

This just seems a feature of these schools. The heads of the various schools appear to do nothing, nor the education ministry or department of education. What is it? An accepted part of college education? Idiot rivalries? Public brawling? What an image to convey.

On 7/21/2022 at 3:57 PM, KhunLA said:

... or start WWIII

There wouldn't have been a WWII with that attitude. Hitler and Stalin invaded Poland, Hitler Czechoslovakia, Austria, and the Sudetenland. France and the UK declared war on Germany. Appeasement didn't work. The Nazis were not a nice bunch. Nor Mussolini, nor the Imperial Japanese army. Europeans have been lulled into a false sense of security. Now, they've been found out.

Just now, jvs said:

Yes the word is getting around.People send there will have no

battle experience and will be just cannon futter.

Winter is coming ,not a good time to join the russian army.

 

You meet quite a number of Russians here in Pattaya. Believe me, they are far from all bad. Many have family in Ukraine. It's a crazy situation for them too. But opposing Putin is an almost impossible task for Russians, so there's no banking on an internal coup I don't think. They face heavy penalties for showing any sign of opposition. I asked a 15 yo lad how it was in Moscow right now. He said it's really pretty normal but people miss their luxuries, "like Nike" he said. So quite what effect sanctions are having is hard to say.

4 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

You are not going to waste your time. Still you did, and mine too. So, when the shoe frits your wat of looking at it, then news and media suddenly tells the true story. Especially in forums, just like this one, you certainly get the right view on things. If I were you, I would try to be a little bit more critical of the sources of information.

Potentially what? You sounded like you have all the facts, when you in reality have none at all. Then I guess you have to take comments on that. So you have empathy for someone who had a relation with a drug dealer, without knowing anything of that. You really think that sounds reliable? It´s no animal we are talking about. It´s someone who signed for a delivery of drugs.

Regarding substance, I meant that you have no facts whatsoever in your assumptions. No, other peoples misfortune by accident is not a huge joke to me. But, signing for drugs not knowing that your boyfriend is a drug dealer is a big joke to me. At best, it´s just blindness and poor research from her, not seing the signs. And, that´s even worse. That´s stupid!

So, at the end, it just seems that you recognized nothing, right?

I referred only to what was widely reported, ie the sentencing of the SA girl, and the couple busted for attempting to send over 4 kg of heroin to Australia. Not on their guilt. Not on the details of any court hearings, apart from raising questions on the due process.

Empathy is simply the ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes. For all your high moral tone and supposed intellectual superiority, you forget, people make mistakes, they make bad choices and they suffer the consequences, sometimes til the day they die. I don't think that's a laughing matter. But you seem to rate stupidity as completely unforgivable. But it only hurt her. What about her boyfriend? Obviously not stupid, but the damage done is immeasurable.

I don't understand the use of "recognize" in your last paragraph. My guess it means "understood". No, you're right. I'll never understand people who think they're so smart they'll never trip up, and laugh at people who do.

25 minutes ago, Gottfrid said:

Wow! you seem to be very initiated. Is this your personal friend, or do you have close relations? Might even be family, right? Or what do you get all this information from. Do you have substance somewhere? Please provide. Or maybe it´s just all mixed up in your delusional mind?

I suggest reading the news mate. I'm not going to waste my time pointing you in the right direction. It's all been reported in the national press, and here on various forums. And don't make inaccurate and potentially libelous casual enquiries about my links to these cases. I don't have any. But I do have a lot of empathy. Same for a wounded animal, or one caught in a trap. I'm not delusional. And you should know, the word "substance" can have several meanings. If you're suggesting I am taking some form of "substance", the same applies as above.

I recognise, I think, your attempts at humour. Schadenfreude? Is other people's misfortune all just a huge joke to you?

I posted this over a month ago, July 21st. What's changed? Not a lot, except the destruction is grotesque. I don't think Ukraine can get Russia off its territory on its own. If Russia can march in, why can Europe not roll in, as "peace keepers"? You really think Putin would consider a nuclear option? Nah, no chance. It would be the end of everything. But, he has to be stopped.

A peace keeping force invited in by Zelensky. It's so late in the day. So much damage. And Russian advances. Europe has dragged its feet. Unprepared, and unwilling to fight. Now, it's getting late to do anything. Is there a plan?

1 hour ago, Wongkitlo said:

If you are interested there is plenty of online stuff including the police's claim. Yes the police do have a questionable reputation but there is a long history of people caught up in the drug trade to stay in Asia, even pretty young blonde girls. Personally I find it more feasible what the police said rather than the claims that she was so innocent that she did not know what her boyfriend was up to. Do not know what 'YMMV' means. 

YMMV = your mileage may vary. Meaning there's no one size fits all. The law is applied unequally in this case, and in this country, and how!

I don't give ANY credit to what the police say. The case was presumably sub judice at the time. They were in contempt by saying ANYTHING before, during, or after the court case. But they do it every time. The police are complete idiots. They have no concept of due process. They go for a confession every time. I know. I've had the 3rd degree treatment. They try and pressure you. It's a complete disgrace. They have absolutely no clue.

16 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Yes, but extradition requests have to be very specific and countries receiving them do not have to agree to extradition to Thailand.  Just that he may have been spotted somewhere isn't enough.

Just how much do you actually know about the extradition process? You make a lot of statements as if you were an experienced criminal lawyer. You seem to be intent on shooting down any possibility of bringing him to account . What's your suggestion for so doing?

55 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Vorayuth did not skip bail, the warrant for his arrest hadn't been presented at the time that he left Thailand.

 

"If Thailand has made a request regarding his presence in a foreign country then that foreign country is obliged to comply".

That's not correct.  If you're referring to an Interpol Red Notice being issued, they are advisory notices, nothing more.   There is no obligation on any Interpol member police force to act on them.

If you're suggesting that any country is obliged to arrest and deport/extradite any individual just at the request of another country, you're wrong there also.

My research says he was charged and released on a $16,000 bail bond. He then skipped.

"While Vorayuth later admitted to police that he had hit the policeman, he told investigators the man had abruptly cut in front of him. He was charged with reckless driving and failing to stop or inform authorities – a potential 10-year jail sentence – and released on 500,000-baht [£10,100] bail. It was unclear what the results of his blood alcohol test were."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/sep/04/red-bull-heir-hit-run-thailand

There seems to be all sorts of <deleted> a out the red notice. Can't get to the bottom of that. But from the above, he's a bail skipper and a wanted man, though I'm not sure what he was charged with back in 2012.

50 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

"We read of wanted person's being deported from here on a regular basis".

Usually as a result of a successful extradition request or mutually beneficial co-operation of the authorities.

So doesn't Thailand have extradition treaties with any country Boss has been spotted in?

21 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

I'm well aware that he is wanted in this country.  Red Notices are advisories only, they are not warrants neither do they have to be acted on by any country that chooses not to, so no it's not "harbouring".

He is wanted in Thailand. He skipped bail. There is a warrant out for his arrest. If Thailand has made a request regarding his presence in a foreign country then that foreign country is obliged to comply. Harbouring by any other name would smell as bad.

5 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

There's a big difference between a country "harbouring" someone (which suggests something illegal) and allowing that person, who is neither a criminal nor is he wanted in any other country, to enter and stay in that country.   

But it happens that Boss is wanted in Thailand, and if there is a red notice naming him, countries that don't notify the Thai authorities of his entry into their countries would be deemed to be harbouring him surely? And even without a red notice, he is a wanted man in his home country. We read of wanted person's being deported from here on a regular basis. How does this guy differ in the country he is residing?

15 minutes ago, banagan said:

I asked the police if receiving stolen property/money here is a crime and they said it was, so there is that. Stolen money sent to their account, they should send it back. 

I think maybe a better solution to all your problems might be to secure your bank accounts, your phone, your property, indeed your existence here in Thailand. I'm not sure what world you're living in if you think someone who has taken money from your account should send it back? ????

2 hours ago, Wongkitlo said:

They did not say if she signed the statement  The police  just said she admitted knowing it contained drugs but claimed they were not hers. 

"The police just said..." Was this sworn testimony in court, under oath? Or just a  completely illegal casual press release allegation? Is there any record of her actually saying this, or admitting to it? As reported, the Thai justice system seems devoid of any due process - a caution, legal representation, right to remain silent etc etc.

I had a Swiss acquaintance, nabbed for receiving a small packet of drugs, not sure what, via a ferry. It was a sting. He got 16 months. In 8 he was back in a Swiss jail, and out in 12. To say YMMV is slightly understating it.

2 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

And, what do you mean with that?

She was given the death penalty for what? A kilo of ecstasy? Commuted to life, and then halved. What kind of nonsense justice system sentences someone to death for signing for a parcel of drugs that weren't even hers? This couple were sending over 4kg of heroin.

In her case, it seems she had no legal representation. Appeal and declare a mistrial. Gross miscarriage of justice.

33 minutes ago, banagan said:

Yes. I went to my branch to cancel the app on the stolen phone and activate on my new phone. It's a process, you need passport, pin sent to mobile, signing copies of passport. 

The bank assured me that the app can only run on 1 phone. I did update my pin, but is was my dob, so I guess the thieves figured it out, think there's a copy of my passport on my phone. This is mute though, as the bank assured me that the app can only run on 1 authorized device. 

I get an email every time I log in. I checked, and got no email notification for the stolen money. 

So, a pretty big security hole with the bank. They should never have been able to access on another phone. I also believed what the bank was telling me, as I tried to use on another phone before, but it wasn't possible.

Hopefully the police can sort it out, I mean they have the name and account number of the person in receipt of stolen money.

If not, the bank needs to reimburse me.






 

If they got your phone unlocked, all data on the phone would have been scrubbed. And I mean everything, apps,  contacts, emails, messaging, passwords, browsing data, the lot. So, how did they get into your bank account? You say you changed the password and bought a new phone and a new SIM and notified the bank, so your old phone and SIM should have been blocked. Something's not right here. Good luck getting your money back.

3 hours ago, Wongkitlo said:

The police claim she admitted that she knew the parcel contained drugs but that they did not  belong to her. 

Now that I find almost impossible to believe. I mean the idea she would admit she knew the parcel contained drugs, and went ahead and signed for it. What did she think the drugs were? ???? Where was her lawyer at this point?

I made a statement once in a cop shop. All written in Thai. I refused to sign. Messed up my case completely. You have 3 months in which to sign. I forgot all about it. Many months later my case collapsed as a result.

Get everything translated!

8 hours ago, Gottfrid said:

Because it´s just an easy way out. No real punishment. Try 25 year in a Thai prison.

Easily commuted to life

1 hour ago, banagan said:

The plot thickens! So, I was just talking with the bank. I asked what phone model was used for the stolen money last night.... it was my stolen phone. 

So, that's the smoking gun. They said it's not possible to have the bank app installed on 2 devices, as it obviously shouldn't. 

Pretty gaping security flaw! 

 

So they've unlocked your stolen phone? Make and model doesn't mean much if it was, say, a Samsung Jx or other popular make/model. But didn't you change your banking app password after your phone was stolen and they got into your account the first time? Krungthai send me an SMS every time I log into my account. Maybe they've put a keylogger on your new one. If you've got a new mobile number as well, you've got your work cut out updating all your apps and institutions that use it. You did block the SIM, right?