tomacht8

Got to love it no reds here going overboard to defend the poor deluded soul, same as the rice scam never a pip out of them when they could be defending Yingluck but how do you defend the undefendable

Waiting for salary.

Am wondering where Chalerm fits into this Thaksin master plan of high powered aides for

poor Yingluck.... In or out ??

i want to have babies with her

It still takes a man and woman to copulate to have kids.....

There are rumors that she has dyed her blond hair black.

"Yingluck is not a strong figue. She's a good person but people close to her are incompetent," the source quoted Mr. Thaksin,...."

Same as pissing on your own shoes!

"According to the sources inside Pheu Thai Party, who spoke on condition of anonymity".

That says a lot.

I wonder how much of the 350million baht is left?

It seems that no one really knows where the money went.

Even the academics and specialists do not knows.

PS: Not 350.000.000 Baht (350 million).

The budget is 350 Billion Baht:

350.000.000.000 Baht. (You could build 350.000 Houses each 1 Million Baht with this Budget (It is a huge budget!!!))

Apparently there is here no interim report how much money has been accessed a total from the Budegt.

There is probably no overview what has been done since 2011 with the money?

And there is probably no execution check whether was actually built for the planned measures with the money.

"That's like a bank, which do not close there safe door and everybody has got an invention to grap in."

As long as the CMPO has a big budget (10 billion Baht), transferred from Natural disaster fund, they are not interested to lift the SOE.
What might in the future comes in (more money) through tourism, they are not interested.
They have now this fat budget. And nobody controll them now.
It is a Jackpot. They can use the money for what ever they want.
So we must wait, after also this budget from 10.000.000.000 Baht is disappeared in dark holes for nothing.

If the Ombudsman Office has the authority to examine the work of the EC commissioners, it should have begun to do so back in October 2013 during the events that first led to the Feb. 2nd elections. If the Court now rules that the election is invalid, then the Ombudsman Office should be charged with neglect of duty as it knew after the fact that it was negligent. This would be following the same logic with the neglect of duty brought against Yingluck in the rice program.

The Ombudsman acts on requests only. It's only now that a petition of Kittipong Kamolthammavongse, a Thammasat University lecturer.

So what's your logic?

@ rubl

You are right: The Ombudsman acts on requests only.

@ rickirs

You really do not know what kind of powerfull institution the ombudsman is here in Thailand.

Could we please arrange for Suthep and Chalerm to share a cell for at least an hour? Make sure there are cameras rolling! I want to see Suthep kick his ass!

........and I want to see Chalerm whimpering!!!!

Ha....Nobody could arrest Chalerm.....never ever happen....!!

Or even his son Duang.

Wrong No.1

".......she reasserted that the government has cooperated fully with the poll agency to hold the election, without any criticism on the process."

The Election Commission has repeatedly pointed out that a fair and peacefull election is not possible, because of the protests.

Furthermore, her ministers have sued and threatened the election commission. The loss of 4 billion baht goes to her account!

Wrong No.2

"..... state of emergency, Ms Yingluck said the Center for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO) and the security agencies will consider it."

She was Caretaker Primeminister and still ist Partylist candidate No.1. If the SOE is necessary she must decide. She is the leader and have the "Last" word. Should it be that she is not the responsible Party leader, then she should resign immediately!

The damage caused by the SOE in the tourism sector is huge. The losses are billions and goes to her account too!

Wrong No 1

"The damage caused by the SOE in the tourism sector is huge. The losses are billions and goes to her account too!"

If the "billions lost in the tourism sector have not been spent by the tourist's here, then how does the money (in your statement) go to her account? HAVE you statements by tourists claiming they instead of coming too Thailand for a holiday and spending, they simply make direct deposit to her account in the amount they would have spent on a holiday in Thailand???

Wrong No 2.

The person that is truly responsible for this is your hero Suthep, Blockading the streets of BKK, encouraging his thugs to invade and order people out of building's,

Blocking people from voting, warning and threatening bank's against loans for paying rice farmers, threatening P/M and MP's and warning them to make arrangement s for their wives and kids, Ye'p your hero, makes me wonder just what kind of person supports this behavior.

So now you know the difference between right and wrong, ok popit

So you agree with me that Thailand is now in political chaos.

Fine.

Who was/is the prime Minister or C-PM?

Yingluck

So the political chaos must have something to do with her and her perfomance in office, or not?

Just try to separate her incompetence from Suthep (conceptually).

The ombudsman still waiting since 2 years for an answer.

Makes me wonder, just what kind of person supports this behavior.

It is a shame
Fraudsters in public office everywhere.
As long as that is not changed, Thailand will never have honest politicians.

This place is insane. Surely the government can hire and fire these appointed positions as they see fit. Abhisit copped one of these ridiculous verdicts himself in the last few days. He was ordered to re-instate a police officer he fired years ago. How the hell can he do what is asked of him by the idiotic court - remember Abhisit is currently unemployed himself. Loopy indeed.

now, now, take a deep breath and relax, my dear unreason.

For one the government cannot just fire or appoint these high level bureaucrats like the National Security Chief. The people are selected, have the qualifications and good reasons have to be forthcoming for their possible move upwards to an inactive position or even dismissal.

At least in this case and as lots of posters here seem to 'know' we still have a PM, so the SAC can order the PM to re-instate the NSC. The order to Abhisit to reappoint the National Police Chief is still a puzzling one though.

'selected' by whom dear Rubl? this guy has been on many PDRC stages voicing support for his fascist dear leader - now the 'unbiased' courts give him his 'selected' job back as SECURITY chief? I call it bizarre!

can you imagine USA security chief or any country security chief on the stage of a movement to overthrow an elected government still in his job??? you don't think an elected Pm or president can fire him? absurd

Pattayaorganic

Well you obviously know nothing about agricultural business and how it works. The rice millers have investment in large infrastructure for milling and they have to purchase raw material, pay for the labor, energy and capital expenses and make a reasonable profit on the their polished rice that they sell.

So you are stating that the rice scheme itself has not any problems at all on the government side it is only the evil rice millers that are at fault here? Wow...obviously you have more in the scrotum than in the skull.

Bottom line is that Dr. Taksin in all his genius thought that he could keep Thai rice off the international market and the price would skyrocket and then everybody would profit (except the poor people who depend on cheap rice) and everything would be dandy.

Well it didn't quite work out that way. This scheme has lost more money in two years than it took to build one of the most expensive science projects in history, the Large Hadron Collider. Don't you think rural Thais would have been much better off if some of that money was invested in schools and teachers and agricultural extension service to support Thai farmers who want to diversify their crops? That is how a market economy works.

This is also the reason why centrally planned economies do NOT work. Rural Thailand needs investment in education and agricultural extension but that doesn't fill the coffers of the Taksin Elite. The man who supposedly was out for the rural Thais took them to the cleaners and ran away with billions while farmers are left to kill themselves and their worthless IOU slips.

Kikoman

I disagree with your comment "Wow...obviously you have more in the scrotum than in the skull". a person that has more in the skull does not resort to below the belt comments.to make a point!

On the international market today according to www.riceauthority.com/prices ,on 5% broken white rice.

Thailand $549.per ton

Myanmar $446.30 " "

Cambodia $560. " "

Vietnam $428, " "

Pakistan $475. " "

India $460 " "

Brazil $550. " "

USA $530. " "

The article did not say who is offering the 8000-8200 bath per ton, which is in the area of $300 per ton less then the international market price. Actually more than what the Thai rice farmer will be paid for his rice!

Only adds up to Thai middle man trying to take advantage of Thai rice farmers, It won't take long for the rice farmers to find out that PTP is the one watching out for their interest!

Your logic is out of line no one has the right to make more money on Thailand's rice than the rice farmers, there is no way you or anyone else can justify what you posted!

Cheers

AAAAGGGGGHHHHHH. Please.

The price at the port FOB INCLUDES YIELD LOSS DURING PROCESSING

I have said this hundreds of times on this forum. It is not like an orange where one kilogram off the tree makes one kilogram on your plate.

1 kilogram from the farmer in Thailand under perfect conditions makes maybe 75 grams on your plate. There is moisture and all the husk that will be removed.

So 8000 * 25% = 2000+8000= 10,000 baht. Plus costs and margin = 11,000 baht + shipping to the port at BEST. Yes the middleman gets paid too much but.....

Please people stop comparing the price that the farmer receives with what the buyer pays at the port. It is not a comparison price.

Some posters do not know the difference between paddy and 5% broken white milled rice.

Anyway your calc. is good.

Only one Typo: 1 kg (1000grams) paddy is, depending on the mill and raw material = 650grams to 750grams on your plate.(dry matter)

That was predictable.
The ill-considered, stupid subsidy scheme of the government, has the inefficiency of rice cultivation obscured, or even encouraged.
Poor quality grades and low yields per unit area.
The competitiveness is damaged for a long time.
After rent, seed and fertilizer for many farmers remains no longer enough to live, or to pay back their loans.

Aside from corruption, one big error was to give the farmers the subsidy money without investment bond.
Rather than to invest in modern machines, better farming methods, new irrigation systems, new seed varieties;
instead many have bought new cars and televisions (many on credit).

Furthermore, unfortunately only the big farmers.have benefited from the existing rice scheme subsidy.
Bigger framers cope better with low margins, they make profits with their large acreage
Particularly now the small farmers have to pay the bill for this rice scheme error

Now a new smart government is needed.

as travel warnings by most foreign governments have invalidated many travel insurance policies, many of the tourists here now are travelling without insurance in what is (regardless of the protests) a developing country where accidents do happen... the tourists here now are real 21st century adventurers... whether they are scared of those whistle blowing loonies is beside the point

The travel warnings are mostly saying "be careful" not "stay away". Therefore travel insurance should still be perfectly valid.

No.

Best to check this with your incurance company!

Has the Foreign Ministry issued a travel warning that insurers are theoretically no longer obligated to pay. Then it depends on the individual case. Assuming deliberately declared war zones to explore, one must know: conventional travel insurance and private health insurance with worldwide coverage grant no protection here. Damage caused by war events preclude the insurer.