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  1. Chalerm Yuubamrung, Director of the Center for Maintaining Peace and Order (CMPO).
    For what this CMPO needs a 20 billion Baht Budget?
    20 billion for 3 CMPO Press Releases per day?
    The volume of this budget stinks!

    I hope the EC checks the budget request accurately.
    All expenses with receipts must be exactly documented.
  2. If the rice-, floodwater-, tablet-, first car-, first house-, etc. schemes failed, the responsible in the Thai govt should pay for the cost with there privat assets.
    If state funds are missing, and those in charge do not want to explain / to where the money went, they must compensate the damage. If the damage can not be fully replaced, then into prison with this culprits.

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  3. "CAPO director Chalerm Yubamrung however said he believes the protests will continue for some months as the PDRC has not yet reached its goal to topple the government."

    Chalerm will hang on at CMPO administering a defanged SOE until he is sure everything is OK because the government has been toppled. Don't forget to cancel the SOE before you go Lerm.

    Charlem will not go so quick.

    He has a 20 Billion Baht Budget.

    20.000.000.000 Baht

    That's a lot of money.

    Jackpot.

    To much money for the CMPO-CAPO-DSI lying around there.

    He does not give this up.

    Rather freezes the hell.
    I would like to see the receipts for this 20 billion Baht.
    They could also pay the farmers 20 Billion Baht.
  4. It would be interesting to see how many years of prison was sought for those violations. Confiscation is wonderful, but how much actual jail time will be served for those crimes? My guess is little to none. Fines only that are paid by the massive profiteers that pay off the governing bodies.

    Agree is a shame.

    For example: Mr. Plodprasop Suraswadi

    in 2005 Plodrasop was accused by the National Counter Corruption Committee and later found guilty and fired from his last bureaucrat post in 2007 because of his illegal permission to allow a trade export of one hundred Bengal Tigers to China by a private company.

    He was a PM in last Parlament, now No. 10 on PT voting list,

    and free on bail since 9 years until today.

  5. They have already applied to the National Budget Bureau for 10 billion from the Contingency budget to fund the 'work' of the SOE so far so I suppose they must keep it going as a justification to ask for more.

    Oh yes they did deny it but unfortunately for then the NBB had already told the world.

    Agree, that is the main reason behind: money.

    Hopefully there will be clear records about what the money was used.

    I can not see for what they need a 10 Billion Baht budget.

    Police is regulary paid.

    For fuel and extra food ok, but not 10 Billion Baht.

    This is very strange!!!

    Just little maths:

    20.000 police officers = 500.000 Baht each?

    PS: For their TV announcements, they use only a wooden wall, a background poster and a writing desk!

    Again, for what was the money used?
  6. The EC already said in December and in January several times that they could not organize free, fair and peaceful elections in the light of the protests.
    The PT government has not believed it.
    Result: 4 billion baht for nothing burned.
    The elections must be conducted nationwide in one day.
    This is not done, so the election is invalid.
    For example: I think if the PT supporters would see this video, now many would vote differently today.

  7. Could someone please tell me the difference between clear acts of sedition by the PDRC and acts advocating secession by some of the UDD? Aren't they both equally treasonous and unconstitutional? Except, of course, when seen through the glasses of the self-righteous!

    Sedition: conduct or speech inciting people to rebel against the authority of a state or monarch.

    Can someone please tell me how Suthep's supposed sedition is different from that in 2010 ? Easy to make a question seem like things are identical - in my case they are, both people's are/were actively seeking the over throwing/removal of a legally sitting government - and hence, by definition, sedition. Both actually fall under the definition of treason too - the crime of betraying one's country, esp. by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government. Both were attempting to overthrow the sitting Government without using the proper political process.

    Making call for secession, and especially for a republic, is likewise treasonous - however, it is somewhat more dangerous than a load of nutters in Bangkok (both now and in 2010) that will eventually subside. It is permanent and very damaging - it is also a direct insult to certain parties that we can not speak of here, a thing not taken lightly here as you know.

    Agree in general.
    To protest against a government that tries to exhibit for them self a Blank Check (in the dark of night around 4 am), to be unpunished all crimes of the past 10 years, is right against wrong.
    Nobody has the right to rise above the law, even politicians not.
    But to try to separate a country geographically, to build up an own state and to set up its own army is yet another caliber.
    The law says for separatism lifelong prison or the death penalty.
    For rebellion 3-15 years in prison
  8. From the Constitution of the Kingdom of Thailand, 2007:

    "Part 7 Liberties in Expression of Persons and Mass Media
    Section 45. A person shall enjoy the liberty to express his or her opinion, make speeches, write, print, publicise, and make expression by other means. The restriction on the liberty under paragraph one shall not be imposed except by virtue of the provisions of the law specifically enacted for the purpose of maintaining the security of the State, safeguarding the rights, liberties, dignity, reputation, family or privacy rights of other persons, maintaining public order or good morals or preventing the deterioration of the mind or health of the public."
    I suspect that talk of sedition and secession are covered by a specific law enacted to "maintain the security of the State."

    Section 113 deals with .......... separate the land or take over the administration of it. A violator is liable to life imprisonment or death

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  9. Zapp:
    "Legal action against North separatists"
    "Gen Prayuth has ordered Lt Gen Preecha Chan-ocha, the 3rd Army commander, to take legal action against the group," Col Winthai said.

    Lt Gen Preecha said as director of the 3rd Region of the Internal Security Operations Command (Isoc), he had called a meeting of the governors of the 17 northern provinces and asked them to monitor and investigate any action which can be construed as affecting national security.
    The governors agreed to cooperate.
  10. Thinking differently is illegal now is it?

    No, but secession is against the law in many countries with heavy penalties.

    Sent from my Nexus 5 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app

    I have read only that some people are discussing the possibility and a desire to secede.

    Can't see what is illegal about that myself.

    You are not up to date.

    They opened some recruitment offices already.

  11. The separatists are playing with fire.
    And they know that!
    In contrast, the protests are nothing.
    The land belongs to / from the King/Kingdom.
    The attempt to cut off a piece of it, is immediately seen as an attack on the territorial borders of Thailand.
    Trying to set up its own army comes a declaration of war.
    I think may tanks are already on the way to show who owns the land.
    Some "load speakers" are really stupid.
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  12. The CMPO secretary-general further revealed that the court recently approved of a certain amount of budget to be spent on peacekeeping operations. However, the budget will have to be given a nod by the Election Commission (EC) as well.

    If a state institution works for one side(group) only, then: no money.
    That would be fair.
    If state funds are spent, all Thais should have a benefit equally.
    However, the benefits of this institution: CMPO is questionable.
    High cost - low benefit is always bad.
  13. BANGKOK: -- Red-shirt followers wore white headbands bearing the acronym “sor por por Lanna” ( the Democratic Republic of Lanna People) to welcome caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra during her visit to an OTOP trade fair held in Sankamphaeng district of Chiang Mai yesterday (Friday).

    What a tragedy.
    The Ex Prime Minister, now Caretaker Prime Minister (at least for three days) from all over Thailand comes home in her
    village Sankamphaeng, welcomed by a few separatists, offer her a small independent state.
    But unfortunately she can not govern there, because her older sister Yaowapa Wongsawat
    (she was baned for five-years for electoral fraud) wins the by election.
    She replace Pheu Thai's Chinnicha Wongsawat, whose voting right was revoked for filing a false financial statement.
    And even there the red shirts are unhappy with the move to field Yaowapa. They wanted the candidate to be chosen through voting.

    So even there, at home, are political problems.

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