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Thank you, treetops. Much appreciated. I now went to that post of mine and corrected the link to https://ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/documents/37563.pdf

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Removed an off-topic post and the replies to it. @transam and @hotandsticky Stop the bickering, please.

Now, I am intrigued. I wish I could see this, the name of a foreigner who is not a permanent resident in a blue house registration book after the house name. Sensational! Hold on to this, it may have a high collector's value.

Correct. This is not a prison sentence. If the foreigner who is given a deportation order has the wherewithal to take a flight out of Thailand immediately after receiving the order and having paid whatever fine was imposed on him and other costs, if any, he is free to go from the court house directly to the airport, probably accompanied by a police escort, where he will be handed over into the custody of the flight captain who will have to hold onto his passport until arrival at the destination. If not, he will be provided with accomodation in the IDC, for a fee, until his departure.

Sentencing by a court of law, if that option of surrender is chosen, will be under Section 81 of the Immigration Act. So far, I have never seen news of a prison sentence given for overstaying.

All three options of surrender I mentioned follow the legal process. The difference is that only the third option, surrender at the immigration desk at the airport of departure, results in an immediate departure from the country, with a fixed fine depending on the length of overstay but a maximum of 20,000 Baht and without arrest, detention, appearance in court, sentencing and a deportation order issued by a court of law.

Yes, that's 5+ years your friend has been in Thailand so far, but in your opening post of this topic you wrote "5 years+ overstay", which can be interpreted only as "an overstay of more than five years". So there is the issue with your "story". Yes, surrendering is the right thing for your friend to do and it is generous on your part to assist him with this, and from reading the replies in this topic so far you will have gathered that there are basically three ways, respectively three places, to surrender: police station nearest immigration office immigration desk in the departure hall of the airport of departure

I think your thinking is wrong. Have the possessor of the blue book you are talking about explain how your name — probably only your forename(s) — got there.

1. The caution you were given was probably based on Article 12 of the Immigration Act. 2. The information you received from the Phuket Town immigration office is wrong, unless an announcement has been published in the Government Gazette stating such blanket limit of VE-60 entries. The immigration official's authority to deny entry under Section 12 is not tied to the number of previous entries made within the year.

1. In ordinary language and in legal terms, everything that is not limited is unlimited, without the need to explicitly specify that it is unlimited. 2. Yes, immigration officials at border entry points have the authority to deny a traveller permission to enter Thailand in accordance with Section 22 of the Immigration Act and to use their discretion in exercising this authority.

"The previous order" was for the VE30. This topic is about the VE60. The announcement of the VE60 mentioned no limitation on the he number of entries. To the best of my knowledge, no subsequent announcement about a limitation has been made.

A new Police Order for extensions of stay is needed, if it has not already been done.

Removed an abusive post. @transam and @Liquorice Stop your bickering, please.

In the unofficial English translation to which I linked, I found the text "Tourism, Work, or Short-Term Business Engagements" puzzling and this prompted me to take the corresponding Thai text and use Google Translate, which gives quite a different translation: "tourism and telework". I find this equally puzzling.

A limit was published in the Government Gazette for VE30 entries. Someone posted a link to it in this forum but I don't have it available; anyway, it is off topic here. An English translation of the official publication of the VE60 is here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Zn4PQT7dlqS39lhdeEd6HIGXsAeEG8Z/view?usp=drive_link without any mention of any limitation on the number of entries via any type of entry point, but the announcement states that the VE60 was launched under the authority of the Immigration Act and therefore Section 12 and all other provisions of that law apply to the VE60. One limitation mentioned in the announcement is the purpose of the visit, ie "Tourism, Work, or Short-Term Business Engagements" The official text published in the Government Gazette, in Thai language, is here: https://ratchakitcha.soc.go.th/documents/37563.pdf P.S. Edit on 20 DEC 2024: I corrected the link for the Thai document

Section 12 of the Immigration Act https://aseannow.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=991237&key=afcda8a9154676f45da42331902f33c8 Every application for permission to enter Thailand, ie presentation of one's passport to an immigration official at a border checkpoint, is subject to vetting under this section of the Immigration Act and thus any application might be refused.

This topic is about the new 60-day visa-exempt entry (VE60), which is separate and distinctly different from the 30-day visa exempt entry (VE-30). Therefore, any request for proof of an official rescission of limitations and/or restrictions related to the VE30 are off-topic here. Anyone with knowledge of a publication in the Royal Gazette of a limit of the number of entries with VE60 within a specific period of time is kindly invited to post the relevant link here.

I suspect that the refusal of your Kasikorn branch was due to what I call "information overload" All you wanted was "a letter that showed my full name, account number and address" but you added the unnecessary information about meeting "requirements of my New Zealand bank and their new anti money laundering laws for when I transfer funds" and that talk about anti money laundering scared them off. Most likely, if you had simply asked for last month's signed bank statement, it would ould have been given to you without a problem.

How many months and days had you left of your permission to stay when you asked about the possibility of an extension of stay?