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2 hours ago, micmichd said:
If you are in a workplace you are in a team, and you should behave accordingly. Which the German in question obviously didn't. So he's not a good team player, and that might become a problem for the whole workplace.
yes, we will see.. im pretty sure he will show the signs he got the message or not soon
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30 minutes ago, starky said:He said someone has a big nose and he flirts a lot. Oh no! Have you not ever heard how the average Thai talks about other people, races? Would you be pulling them up for similar? How about how Thais talk about "country" people. This all seems much ado about nothing. Maybe your the problem farang. See what I did there.
Thnx for the comment.
Tbh i do agree some part of your comment.
Although i dont care about other thais but i care about the working place and the environment where i am in charge. And i think these kind of actions should be happening in a pro working place.. i wouldnt mind to warn a thai doing the same things ( and i did in the past, different situation).
If you are in a work place, you are. Thats it.
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1 hour ago, micmichd said:
OK, here we go. It doesn't matter if Turks have big noses, it matters what Germans think. And most Germans think that Turks have big noses and therefore don't respect them as equal.
I'm German btw, and I fought Germans for their hypocrisy all my life long.
Thnx for the info
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9 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:
I don't think you mentioned it already, how old is this German? For me it sounds like two options: Young and unexperienced or old with a bad attitude.
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I extended my non-b work visa and got my 90 day paper (first 90 days) from Chang wattana. But they told me i have to do my visa extensions here and my 90 days report to nonthaburi immigration because my mobile app TM30 is nonthaburi because my home is in nonthaburi. I have never been to nonthaburi immigration for 90 days but did TM30 via mobile app. It took my 5 min. Very easy and chang wattana immigration accepted the screenshots without any problems when extending my visa not even looked at them. so easy.
so, my 90 days will be in nonthaburi immigration. But i have my first paper from chang wattana the same day i extended my visa. Does this count 1? so i can do my next online for the nonthaburi immigration? or its not 1 and i have to go to nonthaburi immigration do 90 days and the next one online?
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When im coming back to thailand in May, after you leave your plane and a long walk, there are some health check people, they are looking for copy they really didnt care about my mobile app. i showed the copy and they gave me a green sticker (2 up vaccines) so it means you are ok. that times we had other situations. But i dont think printing it will do any harm. play safe.
my vaccination status checked both by the airlines before boarding and the immigration after landed. Both health check point and then immigration too.
if you have thai vaccine app it works too. I showed copy to health check point (they didnt take it only look) and my app to immigration
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2 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:
Personally I think what would have happened maybe 20 years ago? Would he have received a written warning? Would he have received an explicit verbal warning? Or would have someone talked to him colleague to colleague and explain to him that certain behavior is not such a good idea?
Why not try to remind him in a friendly way first and use only warnings if it is really necessary?
sorry i didnt mention before, not officially but 1 or 2 female employee told him this is work place and its better if he not follow them where ever they go.
basically his actions are not changed so far. Thats why i gave him a verbal warning and told him to apologize from the thai guy and the turk guy. Also told him not flirt with the female personnel. I didnt want to make it too serious thats why verbal warning. Just sit and talk and explain the situation.
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4 hours ago, Jingthing said:
Are you joking? Have you been to Turkiye?
actually yes, he is Turkish and he is great with drones. He was working at Bayraktar factory before. But i also dont think Turks have big nose.. i think normal
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5 hours ago, Kinnock said:Doesn't the original post have a whiff of racism about it? No mention of the country of origin of the person receiving the insult, but the protagonist was specifically named as a German.
So isn't there some underlying assumptions about Germanic people in the OP?
I sport a rather large nose myself, and some Thai friends have made comments about it, but that never struck .e as racism, but when a German makes the comment it's somehow racism.
Stereotyping, yes, rude, probably, but racist - no.
I didnt mean its because he is german. I mentioned his nationality just to understand if its a common and normal thing for german people. It would affect my judgment in this case, and my report.
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5 hours ago, Iamfalang said:
If he's creating a bad work environment, you need to protect yourself from such negativity and the future of the company.
Imagine if he met a top client and said, "Hey, your nose is big, you are from....!!" This is unacceptable in 2022.
This is the beginning.
Imagine what he doesn't say, or will say after he's more comfortable.
fight the good fight, get him fired!!!!
He has badmouthed millions from a particular place, and finds it funny.
You must help those who cannot help themselves.
Imagine if you started insulting him........................
I'm deeply offended, he's setting a bad example for kids worldwide.
I want him fired by end of day!!!!
i dont need to fight to fire him. I can do any time. But i just want to give him some time and lets see.. But yes, so far hes totally negatively affecting the work. Although he is good with engines. But of course he must be pro too, and so far.. nope
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yes, he is. And he is a genius about drones. Actually he was working in Bayraktar factory before.
And we all think he is a great guy personality, behave.. you name it.
are you... german too?
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42 minutes ago, johnnybangkok said:The first thing you need to do is have a discussion with him and find out if he knew he was being xenaphobic. You mentioned his English isn't great and having had many different nationalities work from me in the past, this could be the thing; he genuinely didn't mean it the way it came out. Equally though he could be very aware of what he was saying and therefore appropriate action needs to be taken.
However, the one that would really concern me is the part about hitting on all the females, especially in the environment you have mentioned. It is highly inappropropiate for ANYONE to being doing this in a work environment let alone a military set-up with female ranking officers so this needs to be addressed immediately.
Have the discussion, make your thoughts clearly known and let him know he is getting a verbal warning (it probably doesn't constitute a written one at this stage). Give him a clear timeline for improvement and let him know that the next time it happens will result in either a written warning or if severe, instant dismissal. Even though this is a verbal warning, it can still be recorded and if you want it to be rock-solid, have someone else present (HR or the likes) whilst you are having the discussion. The procedures for this should all be in your employee manual so make sure you follow it to avoid employment tribunials and the likes.
Best of luck and let us know how it goes.
thanks
this is exactly what i did this morning.
First listened to his side of the story. Well, it turned out he knew what he said and the meaning but he didnt think it would be racist or likewise. And about hitting the female employees, he thinks there is nothing wrong with this because he is single (well actually he has a German wife in Germany, but i dont know the strength of the relationship) and he feels he is ok to do it.
I explained him that this will be his verbal warning about both topics. He may not think its rude or likewise but it can be for another especially in an international working environment. And about the hitting issue, i told him this is a working place and should act more pro. The Thai army officer who is responsible from the thai personnel was with me, just sat and listened. And actually after the short meeting he thanked me about hitting females issue.
He kind of accept my speech but i can tell you his body language was like, i dont give a damn. Well, we will see.
PS: When i was posting this, it turned out that he also told one of the engineers here in the base that Thai men has small .... !
But this is before today's meeting so i will wait and see. Meanwhile i will ask him to go and apologize from both Thai and the nose guy.
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14 hours ago, VocalNeal said:
Guys in the workplace use all kinds of banter to establish dominance. Like calling everyone - "son" or "young man"
Did the guy with the nose complain? Or are you being offended on his behalf.
well tbh there were not much time for him to complain because we had to go o the workshop in the middle of this conversation. So it was like not ended conversation. After the workshop i was thinking about this and asked him if hes ok, he said its not a big issue for now. but he will be under observation, thats for sure.
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58 minutes ago, mikeymike100 said:Really you would have to have heard how he said it. Did he say it in a sarcastic, joking way, or was he serious?
Problem is now people get offended at the smallest criticism or comment.
As he is German and was speaking English did he understand exactly the meaning of his words?
hi. thats also another reason why i started this. And yours is one of them. Actually they were talking about how people take seriously their jobs when doing something and then somehow he took the topic to nationality. Such as this country people do work like this, that country like this, blah blah.. And then it came to his nose and where he is from. Btw his nose is fine, nothing special. So, the topic was serious. And im pretty sure he knew what he was talking about.
another problem with him is, he is all over the thai female personnel. He is flirting with everything he thinks is female. im serious. And we are working for the Royal Thai Airforce, everyone here is ranked people.
I will give him a verbal warning tomorrow. If this still goes on written. And then i have to think about his employment.
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Hi guys, thanks for the great comments.
I also kind of agree that it was not that high level racism but questionable behavior. I think i will give him a verbal warning with this and his other few things regarding in our work place.
At this point the other guy told me no need to complain.
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So the other day i was sitting at the office and doing my work, I witnessed a conversation between two of my co-workers.
We have this new german guy joined us probably 3-4 weeks ago. He is expert about plane engines. In his mid 50s And the other guy (not important where he is from) also expert about engines for drones. And he is with us for probably 5 years now. I must say the german guy already got everyone's attention because of his attitude and behaving to other people both Thai and foreigners. Obviously in a negative way. No need to give examples.
So get back to the conversation i heard. I will not give the full details but at some point german guy said 'yes, you are obviously from ... because your nose is very big.' And the other guy (who is well known about his really nice personality, etc.) asked like 'what do you mean?' And the german said 'thats how we understand where you are from (mentioning his country) in my country. There are lot of from your country'. At that point something came up and we had to go to the workshop to check few things.
So i was thinking about this conversation. Was it racist or he was just describing what he looks like? I know in Nazi times, germans said Jews has big nose (he is not from Israel or a jew). I checked with the other guy and he said he doesnt care about the conversation but he thinks (me too) the german guy will not stay here long (obvious reasons). But the thing is i must decide if that was racist or not, because im the head of the section in here. What makes me think is the german guy is not good in english. But he said that very clearly and even made a comment about it.
what you guys think... thanks
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6 hours ago, Swiss1960 said:
Thais change their surnames for lots of reasons, including hope for better luck, so the Thai system is well capable of handling it.
Immigration can handle passport changes in-country (I.e. renewals), but I doubt they can do it at the point of entry, even if the name is the same.
I strongly suggest to do the change while in Thailand, get a letter / entry in the old passport, that refer the old and new passports, and of course an official document confirming your name change.
Than go to immigration and move your stamps.
what you said for thai people is very correct BUT it is totally wrong for farangs.
they will not think like thai way.
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I dont understand why people suggest Cambodia border. I read terrible things about the border and also im one of that terrible stories. It happened with my non-o multi. I would do my best to avoid from there.
Everyone knows and agree that Thai-Laos border is the most friendly one. Mukdahan / Savanakhet. Although i dont know if its open for the thing you want to do. If not, Cambodia can be the second option. If laos is not an option I would choose @DrJack54 suggestion, Saigon. But its kind of long and lot of time and probably lot of money. And obviously you are looking for a very fast and quick way to do this. So 3 options:
- Laos: if possible.
- Saigon: friendly, more money and time.
- Cambodia: not friendly but best option if that 2 option is not possible.
PS: you really really no need to use any agency for your trip or else. Dont listen to people suggest that. They will do nothing special. You will still be the one who ahs to do all paper work, and everything. so they are not doing anything BUT take more money than you would pay by yourself. The bus from bangkok to cambodia border is around 450-500 baht. Also they will stop at a PTT gas station in the middle of the night, then ask you to fill the forms for the visa and other things i front of the toilet.. trust me, you want to go by yourself.
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well, all advices says you need to leave and get a new visa which is suitable to your situation.
Good luck
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tbh your post is full of misleads.. and also some interesting infos about the visa situation..
you mentioned that you got education visa but then you said you got it for 8 months because of educational 2nd test which is... doesnt make any sense. is it like you found a new work to teach and they ask you to take teacher license exam? is that what you mean by educational visa? if so.. thats totally wrong. you can get a letter from the minister of education for 2 years and you can teach any school you want.. just must change the school every 2 years. and yes, at some point you need to take the test. but again i have no idea what you mean by 2nd test?!
And to be honest if you cannot have the right visa to stay and live in thailand (which looks like you are trying to stay here as long as you can) well.. im sorry but i dont think anyone can help you about this. Abusing the system is not the answer. Soon or later.. thats it.. the end
i think you need to be more clear with your visa situation.. and all of with this educational visa thing..
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were you drunk or high when having this 3am massage?
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in my opinion, khon kaen is one of the best cities in Thailand. I remember 17 years ago of khon kaen. It was not a small or big city. No Central yet too (i also remember its construction) And not that much farangs too. Very friendly people. Also i would say its one of the fastest developing city in thailand. Seriously lot happened in 17-18 years. I also noticed in this time that many farangs started to come to khon kaen from udon or around cities. I can say it took the capital city of Esan area from Udon for sure. Great city to live in. Really nice shopping areas. there are some really nice italian and other countries restaurants. Although i wouldnt expect too much international shopping in khon kaen. There are some but not like bangkok area.
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4 hours ago, Mickey Mouse said:
Thanks. I was unaware of change from 400K/40K plus covid requirement.
Any embassies/consulates in nearby countries offering NONIMM O visa?
i would go Savanakhet. Well known by its friendly stuff and procedures.
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5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:
From what I have read they are not checking for vaccination certificates. If they do not have a test they will have them do a ATK test at the airport.
Not sure what kind of PCR test they are doing at the clinic. Ask if it is a RT-PCR test.
when i came back in May, the first thing they checked was the vaccine certificate. But i dont know the situation in August. But i imagine they need to understand your vaccination situation somehow..
90 day reporting online or not?
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thnx