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Sure, I should have mentioned that some teachers are exempt from the 'compulsory SSF membership'. I'm not sure about teachers employed full-time by language schools, are they exempt from joining the SSF, do you know?

You mentioned "To be honest - unless my friend in Bangkok who allowed me to be under her Tabien Baan sells her house, I would keep my PR address in hers in Bangkok." This reminds me, when I got PR (25 years ago) I was renting an apartment in Bkk. I went with my PR agent (more friend than agent) to the amphur office to get issued a PR dark blue book. The amphur officer suggested if we had time to walk to another room (2 minutes) to get the Tabien Baan item done. The Tabien Baan officer asked for the details of th address etc., where I was to be recorded. My agnent and I looked at each other, we didn't have an answer. A Thai acquaintance was with us, he had offered to drive us around various places for the day. He spoke up quickly 'would it be OK if the farang goes on the Tabien Baan pages* for my house? The Tabien Baan man at the amphur office responded to the acquaitance immediately with no questions and no hesitation, 'sure, do you have your Tabien Baan document with you now?' One second later Tabien Baan officer writing my name etc., on the Tabien Baan pages for my acquaintance. My name stayed there for many years until I bought (paid for) a house and land, land title recorded in my Thai sons' name. My name then moved to the Tabien Baan book for 'son's house'. * Tabien Baan pages - This was before the Tabien Baan computerised book, linked to the new national database was introduced. The old system was just loose/stapled pages on very long paper with hand written entries.

Nice question and I don't know a specific answer. One point that come to mind, do you have a specific date that you will have a house? You say 'when I have my house'. Does that mean: - Own a house (just the house building) on land owned by a Thai national (perhaps wife) or could be owned by any Thai person? Or... - Have a controlling interest in a house and land owned by a Thai registered company? Or... - Persoally own a condominium (your personal name on the land title dodument)? A different point, as a Thailand PR holder do you have a RED Police Registration book?

Foreigners who are legally employed in Thailand have membership of the Thailand Social Security Fund SSF (employers are required by law to register new employees (Thai or foreign) with the SSF. You cannot refuse to join. The fund builds a retirement package for all members and provides Injury and Sickness benfits and more. On retirement all members can 1). Take arefund of their accumulated monies in the fund or 2). take a monthly pension. Also when members retire and take their contributions they can elect to continue their Injury and Sickness membership and pay their monthly SSF member contibutions at a bank for transfer to the SSF. Monthly contibution is about 450Baht a month. Many foreigners (me incl.) never check the full details while they are employed. It's worthwhile to check the full SSF benefits and details etc. HR departments should be able to provide a lot of detail. Good luck.

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Or, 'but I don't have to take my passport to the PO to post a letter in Kenya!'

Reminds of 'bath' or 'Bahts' instead of Baht.

Yawn...

Perhaps communicate by e.mail, free, instantaneous, can corrrect immediately if some misunderstanding, portable, easy to add photos/videos, fun!

Maybe he's an English language teacher?

Son gets hurt and taken to hospital, he has superior level private health insurance. Hospital initiallly refuses to give him any reports etc., to send to his pvt. insurance. Son gets asked/pushed to sign 'med. insurance' as arranged by the hospital doctor. Few days later he's ready for discharge, and pays the hospital bill (20,000+Baht). Again he pushes for med. report to send to his pvt. insurance. Head nurse says 'pay me xxx cash and I will give the documents to the doctor to sign'. Son pays the nurse Later same day nurse is back with message from the hospital doctor 'pay 2,000Baht cash and dr. will sign all the docs. Son pays, gets docs signed by dr. Son takes docs to health insurance coy (BXXX). Lady from health insurance calls son and says med reports are suspect. Son tells insurance lady the whole story. She says 'OK now I understand, we get this all the time, we will refund everything on the bill'. A few days later a full refund cheque/check arrives from health insurance company.

Just PM for the wonderful high glory it brings to the military, who forever have seen that they lead the country and with no respect/concern/recognition for elections etc. (Always respecting the reigning king or queen of course).

One point to clarify; the 'house master' recorded in the Tabien Baan DOESN'T have to be the owner of the house. In many TB books the house master is an adult family member but it can be any Thai citizen indicated by the owner.

"Thaksin has been in exile for nearly two decades yet remains the dominant figure in any election held in Thailand." Sure, envelopes of money left in letter boxes ...

But note that the netting can over several years get very brittle and break very easily. Perhaps this is not a problem unless the nettin is installed on a condo balcony to keep pidgeons off the balcont, but the condo owner is believing that the netting stopping little kids from falling off the balcony. Could be that kids try to climb the netting but it's old/brittle and falls apart very quickly and kids fall down.

Perhaps we're confusing 2 books: 1. The RED Police Registration book which must be updated (new photo - report that the person is still alive) at an appropriate police staion every 5 years and if the PR moves residence (let's say from Bkk to Chiang Mai then the PR must tell the BKK police station 'I'm moving to CM to live'. The BKK police station prepares an envelope of documens and the PR takes this to the appropriate police staion in CM. And there is a time limit to get this completed, can be fines for being late. 2. The Tabien Baan (TB) Book, which is administered by the hundreds of Amphur offices across Thailand all linked to a central database. The RED police book / police stations and Thai Immigration are totally NOT involved in any way with gaining/updating the TB book. But if you need to replace your full PR book at Immigration they might ask to see the RED book and check that the 5 year reporting is up to date. But Thai immigration does NOT administer the RED police registration book. A Thai citizen or a foreigner with PR or some types of visas which give the holder a pink Thai ID card can be registered in any Tabien Baan book but generally a Tabien Baan book associated with their abode. Some foreigners get a yellow covered Tabien Baan book for various reasons, one being ownership of a condo. Typically the foreigners name would be in the yellow covered TB book Every TB book has a 'house master' typically on the first page of the TB book (after the page which shows the full address). The house master is responsible to keep this book up to date. However it can be that some members of the family are recorded in the TB book at a different location (e.g. a uni student from Hat Yai who is living in Bkk with her aunt while she attends uni). But it would also be typical that the uni students name is still recorded in the family TB book at Hat Yai. This is all OK. If a friend asks the House master 'I'm moving to your city for my job, can I put my name in your TB book?' then this is very normal and is NOT breaking any laws or regulations. I have PR (25 years). I live permenantly with my Thai adult son and the land/house property is recorded in his name at the lands titles office, and my Thai son is the house master therefors his name is the first 'resident' listed in the TB book. Son's wife is next in the TB book, then me, then son's 3 kids. I hope this is not confusing.

Following is a re-send of an answer I posted a few months back: Good advice. I am one of those who travel out of the country at least once a month, so I have a multiple-entry anyway. However, even if a trip weren't planned, I'd feel better with the re-entry in the passport. The reason is that I have family overseas and you never know when you get a call on Friday afternoon that you have to jump on a plane the next day. Sometimes business can require very urgent trips too. Naiyana 1 Quote Naiyana Newbie Member 0 8 posts Gender:Female Posted December 9 Thank you Scorecard, rimmae2 and onthemoon for the clarification - no such thing as 'renewal', I need to do them only when it is needed. Good to know, I will do mine just before my next trip. I may do like onthemove - I have my elderly parents back home. Thank you all.

I've arrived in Both Mumbai and Delhi and Indian immigration officers yelling rudely at arriving passengers. One time in Mumbai the roaming Imm. officer rudely yelled at me 'not this line, can't you read'. I challenged one officer at Mumbai 'where's the sign in regard to what you're saying? I just got more abuse and when I got to the actual desk the passport man claimed I had been very abusive to his boss and told me to stand aside. After he processed maybe 10 more arrivees he called me back to his desk and gave me another tyrade about being rude and asked many silly questions about why I was coming to India. The reality was that my company had just gained a big contract to advise one of India's giant global conglomorates which would require many trips into Mumbai and Delhi. When I got to the office in Mumbai I shared my immigration experience with the private secretary of the patriach of the company. An hour later she found me and shared that her boss had given her an instruction to arrange for a snr. officer to meet me and my colleagues at the aircraft door on arrival, every trip, and escort me/us through arrival procedures. Next trip, snr man waiting at aircraft door, his young assistant with a decent size sign showing the very well known Indian company name and my name. Lots of silly examination and re-examination of a couple of simple documents and silly questions when we got to a more private immigration arrivals office ('You have travelled today from Bangkok, is that correct?' YES, then many notes written on several documents) but all completed in 5 minutes, meanwhile company staff collecting our bags (i'm talking about many many years ago when on arrival in Mumbai all check-in bags were thrown on an unattended heap about 15/20 metres outside of the terminal building. Many bags never found and zero assistance from airport staff. In those days It was possible, on some airlines, to pay a fee to take several bags into the cabin. That helped to keep all bags in sight.

Just after I got my first PR book I did a quick trip to SIngapore. On arrival bak in Thailand I automatically joined the 'foreign passports' line. A moment later an Immigration officer asked to see my documents, he spoke in very good English, and said 'please move across to the Thai Citizens line and join that line every time you return to Thailand, the immigration officers on the Thai Citizens lines are more knowledgeable about how to process PR holders documents. Then he escorted me (just a few seconds ) across to a Thai line. That's 25 years ago, at that time I was doing day trips to Spore, KL, HK once or twice every week. When I get to the actual passport desk I have never once (in 25 years) been told I should be on the foreigners line. Several other PR holders have mentioned the exact same situation - asked to always join the Thai line, and the same point has been mentioned here in ThaiVisa/Asean many times before over many years. I have a few times had a Thai person in the line tell me, politely, 'Foreigners line' and point across to the foreigners in line. Every time this has happened I show the cover of my PR book. Instantly no further discussion.

One high profile tyre outlet here in Chiang Mai tried to convince my Thai son it's illegal to have tyres on your car more than 1 year old. Son called the manufacturers rep in CM, who told son NOT TRUE, no such law, depends on the usage more than anything, as a rough guide 4 to 5 years max.

Pattaya does seem to attract the sex maniacs. I recall an incident of a xxxx man who was asking western men if they knew of a bar or whatever where they had 12 yr old virgin girls available. Guy reported to the cops. What happened from there never reported.

I've been searching for good health insurance for my 3 THai granddaughters (permanently resident in Thailand) but I can't find any policies for Thai children 6, 11, 16 years old. Have any members found a health insurer with policies for 6, 11, and 16 years old Thai children, with reasonable premiums? Please share.

... and to protect humanity from him and his unethical, immoral acts.

"Chevrolet in Chiang Mai are still offering servicing at the same premises as before, Ford has taken over the showroom." I hope they are more focused than their marketing was. My Thai son was doing the rounds of various brands of SUVs / bigger sedans. Went into the Chrysler showroom on Mahidol RD CM (I was with him). Instantly appraoched by 2 very short skirt 'pretty' girls with too much make up. He asked a simple technical question, the reply from both 'pretty' girls was 'It's a very beautiful car'. Son walked across the floor to where some male employees were sitting, and he asked the same question several times. They just redirected him to the 'pretty' girls. We walked out. Later he made a list of possible vehicles and called each of the brands and asked about gas mileage. Most instantly gave him specific data. The Chevrolet guy, on the phone said 'it doesn't matter and you can check it yourself after you buy the car'. Son responded I want this data before I buy any car, low gas mileage and I don't buy that brand. Chrysler man answered 'never heard of this before, but maybe Chrysler in Jakarta, Indonesia can tell you. After you call them please call me back and give me the data'. Chrysler immediately scrubbed off son's list of possible vehicles.

Ph.D. students more likely to have their reserach materials in their backpack. Ph.D. students focus on their own 'never seen before' insights/philosophies rather than textbooks with mostly detail past real experiences and proven stratgies etc.