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4 hours ago, rott said:

Bit early in the game to be speaking of success or failure. 

So you admit you are cheerleading for failure?

27 minutes ago, placeholder said:

He was a corrupt crook. But what about those who opposed him? He did direct a lot of govt money away from Bangkok and to regions that were traditionally neglected. The North and Northeast particularly. It's a pity he wasn't a halfway decent human being.

Someone sure drank the Issan kool-aid. Giving the rice farmers handouts was a small price to pay for the ultrawealthy to seize their grip on power and make obscene amounts of money raping and pillaging the country.  That's precisely why the military had to step in

3 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

People regularly criticise the Thai government but its not exclusive to foreigners.  Most Thais that I know think the current government is totally incompetent - I tend to agree with them.  This is what you get when you have a soldier in charge of a country - an untested soldier, I might add.

 

I don't think anyone is saying 'Thais can't do anything right' - I think they are saying the current Thai GOVERNMENT can't do anything right. Or are you suggesting they've handled the Pandemic well?

Those same Thais will also tell you Thaksin was the best PM ever even though the guy was a corrupt crook.  They are the Thai version of trump supporters.

3 hours ago, bangon04 said:

is it possible that the confusion could be a convenient smoke screen to mask the continued failure of Siam Biosciences to produce significant quantities of the AZ product??

I'm sure the politicians and media can't be as forthcoming as they would like to be.   I think that is just on the surface though.  Underneath it all the people who know all the facts are doing whatever they need to do as best as they can.   

It was 100% inevitable there would be initial production problems because every other AZ manufacturer around the world had production problems as well.  Trying to ramp up production of AZ is also a slow process because of how it's made.

13 minutes ago, bradiston said:

I think most people realise the subs got the headline wrong.

I think you are giving the serial complainers FAR too much credit.  They just want stuff to moan about.  They don't care if it's true or what the actual issue is.  My guess is that they hate their own lives so much that they want to try blame it on the Thai gov't.  They would not be happy no matter where they lived.

This thread is hilarious.  Most of the comments are just the usual knee jerk "thais can't do anything right" nonsense when the story was probably not even translated properly. So the serial complainers here are not even complaining about the right thing....lol

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

It has only been 15 days so far.

 

See what July has been like in the first week of August.

It's still low season which typically has much lower numbers anyways.  If the numbers are decent now they should be pretty good Nov-Dec-Jan.

9 hours ago, jacko45k said:

I see if one turns up not long before departure, and the bus is full, you will be sitting around usually for 3 hours.  So get there early I expect.

Then they would add more buses.  That's kind of the whole reason there are fewer buses in the first place.

9 hours ago, nahkit said:

Are you aware that the Indian version of the AZ vaccine isn't currently recognised by the EU? 

 

https://www.euroweeklynews.com/2021/07/02/indian-made-astrazeneca-vaccines-not-recognised-by-eu-passport-scheme/

Are you aware that 15 EU countries do?

https://www.livemint.com/news/world/covishield-is-now-recognised-by-15-european-countries-for-travel-green-pass-11625874770571.html

3 hours ago, ThailandRyan said:

False info . No fetal cells are used at all.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-vaccine/fact-check-lung-tissue-of-an-aborted-male-foetus-is-not-in-the-vaccine-for-coronavirus-idUSKBN27W2I7

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/18/facebook-posts/oxford-astrazeneca-vaccine-does-not-contain-aborte/

 

Stop posting misinformation 

You should stop accusing people of things you don't seem to know very much about yourself.

I posted the link with the info including the scientific name of exactly what they are using.  Go argue with them about it.  You seem to be confusing fetal cell culture with fetal cells.  It's a cultured product about 1000x removed from fetal cells.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells

You clearly didn't take the time to educate yourself about it before trying to falsely accuse me of something.

3 hours ago, Scott said:

Not exactly true; not exactly untrue.  

https://www.kare11.com/article/news/verify/verify-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-contains-no-fetal-fragments/507-3948f81c-aa5b-4046-a629-3e1e5a4b6dbb

 

I posted the link with the info including the scientific name of exactly what they are using.  Go argue with them about it.  You seem to be confusing fetal cell culture with fetal cells.  It's a cultured product about 1000x removed from fetal cells.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HEK_293_cells

The perpetually wrong doom mongers who said Phuket would never open,  it would never work, nobody will ever come, it will be a zombie apocalypse, seem awfully quiet in these Phuket threads now.  I wonder why.

55 minutes ago, Lorry said:

I posted an original from a Thai consulate. Care to read?

So instead of admitting you are wrong you are going to try double down.  Who could have predicted.

24 minutes ago, candide said:

 

 

You still naive enough to believe there's a good guy and a bad guy? It's not that clear.

 

For the time being, it seems China has donated more vaccines than the U.S. while the U.S. has pledged more jabs than China. Until recently, the U.S. has followed a fully selfish policy, i.e. has banned all vaccine and vaccine component exports (which, for example, prevented Indian or European producers to produce enough jabs to meet their commitments).

 

Of course, China's policy is only led by self-interest! There's no doubt about it! However, I don't think it has been significantly different in the case of the U.S.! For the time being (it may change over time), China had a much more positive impact on vaccine supply to other countries (particularly developing countries) than the U.S!

I.e.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-vaccines-idUSKCN2DL0AO

Actions speak louder than words.  China has been shipping vaccines to other countries since day one.  The US only started doing that when they didn't need them for themselves anymore.  So it's pretty funny when someone tries to rewrite history trying to make the US the good guys and China the bad guys.

"Fear" is a poor choice of words and makes you look like an anti-vaxxer spreading FUD.

So far only one country (Israel) seems concerned enough about the long term effectiveness that they want to order a 3rd booster shot.  

The problem with that is a lot of people around the world are still waiting for their 1st shot.  So there are ethical considerations.

On 6/19/2021 at 11:57 PM, SVC Porter said:

I've had a number of Job interviews for work in Vietnam recently and another on Tuesday coming. So far they've all indicated that visas are not a problem. I'll wait and see when I decide if I'm taking up any of the current offers!

They definitely want to encourage sponsored work visas.  That's nothing new.  It is also not a problem staying in Vietnam if you are married to a Vietnamese citizen.  This thread is mostly talking about everyone else which is probably the vast majority.

Must be a tough thread for the doom mongers to swallow.  They will never admit they were wrong though.  They will just move on to doom mongering about something else.

6 minutes ago, bstafford214 said:

Must be nice to have that kind of money to spend and for 2 months. Not very many people will do this, so there is no way to make those numbers they brag about, so much BS it's just too funny. They are trying to impress someone with these statements?

But a lot of people ARE doing it.  Also, this is low season where it rains a lot in Phuket.  So the really big numbers of tourists won't really start till Nov.

1 minute ago, connda said:

500 a day and airlines lose so much money that the route goes under - well unless it's subsidized. Probably can't talk about that as it's super-secret and contractually invisible.

I guess the airlines should have consulted you before they applied to add more flights.  You clearly know how to run an airline better than they do.

9 hours ago, Sticky Rice Balls said:

I guess the question is WHOM was it a success for?

For tourists. Certainly not for the doom mongers saying it will never happen, it will never work, it will be the zombie apocalypse and whatever other nonsense they pulled out of their sphinicters.