DonniePeverley

Have you been holed in a cucoon for the past few months?

What happened to free speech Vance and co were lecturing Europe about? Oh wait, is 'free speech' just speech they like ?

You can do well and still be an arse hole. The two aren't exclusive.

Won't even go into a Tesla show room any more. Musk is ridiculous and the politics is awful.

They won't make any changes because it would be an admission they made mistakes. The sheer volume of Russian and Chinese visitors working (when you stray beyond the tourist path) is astonishing. The Chinese visitors especially are just piliging Thailand for everything. The 60 day rule, with an extension - essentially allows you to stay non stop with the odd flight back to reset. To go back to 30 day, will highlight those abusing the system. It won't stop illegals working, but it will greatly reduce it. WIll they do it? No. Because it's the current administration that has basically opened the borders with it's ridiculous easy entry to the whole world, esentially making Thailand an open border to the world - something no other country has done - politics of the playground not real world. The results have been a disaster - with an increase of low rent visitors, crime risen, cheap tourists who spend low, the mass turn off of quality high spending tourists, and open hostility growing from locals (which will only increase if you see what is happening in European tourist spots and Japan). If you allow visitors to stay long term in Thailand (with little checks) they will seek income - it's obvious, and they will take local jobs that should be protected for Thais. You have videos of indian tourists sleeping 20 to a small room, never mind the horrific worldwide viral videos of them sleeping on beaches. The sexual predatory nature of their visits to Pattaya. A visa on arrival would have ensured every India visitor had a hotel booking in their name. But nope this adminstration just threw everything out, including visa outs with a sheer lunacy stimulus. Irony being India doesn't even let Thai's in visa free, despite a much worst economy per person. Vietnam, Malaysia all have checks and balances (including return tickets and accomdoation checks with their visas for Indians). As i say, other countries may offer an increased amount of stay for certain nationalities - but they also mix in greater controls on certain nationalities. For example, Vietnam ensures Indians obtain a visa before arrival, and ensure every visitor has a hotel booking and return ticket. Thailand has no such checks. The real issue is the extreme lax in the implentation of the DTV. It needs reviewing immediately. The goal may have been to increaase tax revenues from foods and goods, and help the struggling real estate market. But all that's happened is cheap tourists who don't spend alot per head flood the country, pile pressure on infrustructure, and increase crime, and take jobs from local Thais. The real estate market has become decimated by the short term rental as potential buyers fear a shiny new condo will become a short term rental hub flooded by horrific tourists. The issue with short term rentals and has priced out local Thai's - forcing them to move to the outskirts as visitors take up more space. In countries that are still developing it's dangerous to begin to use homes as investment opportunities. The Thai population still need protecting. Policing has become soft, with fears for putting of tourists - ironically having the opposite effect, as visuals on social media show the growing volume of crime and violence in Thailand, fuelled by drugs and alcohol. There should be a no nonsense approach to the hoardes of Bendirom British and drunk Russians misbehaving. Thai solution is to add more cheap visitors into this mix is beyond parody. Thailand is bordering on nearly 40 million tourists, and now mix into that you have a set that are staying long term. No other country is having such a huge influx of visitors like this. Countries like Singapore, Malaysia seek out quality tourists with higher spends per net. Singapore offers no free entry to Indian visitors for example. To simply say 'Singapore offers so many days more' is misleading. The enviromental and physical impact with mass increase in visitors on the country is startling. Go see the impact on Phuket and the horrific over development as a result. Beautiful islands wrecked by over tourism. There needs to be an immediate return to a 30 day visa programme. Implentation of visa on arrival protocols for certain nationalities (like India) to ensure there are return tickets, and each person has a hotel booking in their name. The DTV has to be stopped, and a more easier to obtain version of the Elite visa implemented (that isn't ridiculous expensive and impossible to obtain, but stronger than DTV). Nothing will change. The only ones to gain are 7/11 shops and cheap tourists spending money on cheese toasties.

That's not a backup then is it ? A backup is something that comes on straight away, not requiring days to set up.

Is it true the backup generators were diesel emitting so closed down ? I'm reading this a fair bit on my X timeline, so taking it with a pinch of salt, but few prominent posters posting this. I'm not buying the excuse that it takes time for a backup generator to get up and running. That doesn't it render it a backup at all then.

Yes until someone breaking the 'laws' effects you hey. This simply has to be the most idiotic statement on this forum

Because very few (not even third world) offer Indians visa free. Yes cumulative they may generate income to Thailand - but person their amount is very low. Quantity over quality seems the mantra. Furthermore, one of the ways to get Indians spending money was via the visa on arrival route - as it ensured every visitor had a hotel booking in their name. Now you have a scenario 10 plus guys can just pimp into one room (and i've seen that with my own eyes).

Vietnam and Malaysia don't issue visa free for Chinese and Indias. Both countries require you to have a VISA AND A HOTEL BOOKING IN YOUR NAME. Thailand asks for nothing.

This is welcome news. Will it be implemented ? I'm not so sure. The sheer volume of tourists here on long term stay is going through the roof - who are then working illegally to support themselves. The volume of trouble makers (most likely with criminal pasts) here is astonishing. Little law enforcement dosen't help. AirBnb through the roof which is horrifc (buyers walking away from the market for fear the purchased condo will become an airbnb and hotels suffer). The real problem though is the DTV visa. Many are taking advantage of that with the laws in the process to obtain one. That visa needs to go or either toughened up. The real problem though is Thailand needs to clean up it's tourism image. The image around the world this past few years has been horrific. The set of cheap mass tourists it has inflicted on itself is very poor. Tourists would not behave as badly as they did in Singapore or Dubai. Quality over quantity.

India is full of immigrants from Bangladesh, Myanmar and Nepal. Thailand itself is full of immigrants from Myanmar. Nigeria is struggling to cope with immigrants from Chad, Cameroon and other states. South Africa is a magnet for immigrants from around Africa. China itself is full of immigrants from North Korea. Every country has immigration problems. Be it America with Mexico etc. The problem many European countries have is that the invaded most of these countries. Then used them to help them during the two world wars (go see how many INdians died defending your way of life), then further needed man power to help rebuild their countries. One thing that there will always be is racist Brits in Thailand - usually in Pattaya.

It's one thing Thailand's new government being scared to have negative publicity that would effect tourism, it's another though to be so lenient for fear of those headlines, that you actually garner headlines for awful behaviour of tourists. These tourists would not behave like this in Dubai, Singapore, Malaysia or even China. They feel embolded to behave this terrible way because they fear no consequences. Looking at the possible punishments for carrying a knife, threatening to stab that is an absolute joke and too soft. There are people who pay money to enjoy a holiday, and these people spoil it for them with their behaviour - there are plenty of others like them, especially the Benidorm chavy cheap Brits and draft dodging Russians. I'm shocked to realise they aren't even automatically deported.

SAY NO TO CHINESE CASINOS.

This should be banned. It's far too generous. If you leave the UK and go live abroad, pensions should be banned. Go get money from the government from the country you moved to - tough luck if they aren't so generous. I have an uncle who lives in Canada, never been back to the UK for 20 years. Collects a pension, comes back to the UK for free health care, optician and dentist appointments. Then get's free hearing aid batteries (worth thousands). Before flying back. Utterly disgusting the sheer waste the UK government does.

Brilliant from the cops. Ask yourself would these tourists behave this way in Dubai or Singapore? So why do they feel embolded to do it Thailand? Thailand needs direction to stop messing around with a soft approach (oh won't someone think of the negative tourism headlines) for misbehaving tourists who spoil it for those who have spent hard earned money to enjoy themselves responsibly. Too often, especially under the current adminstration there has been a tendancy to back away from any disturbance for fear of headlines. No wonder Thailand has descended into a horrific mess, with social media awash with tourists behaving appalling.

Looking at media reports there is a raft of travellers from Thailand getting caught - but usually in the UK.

Only problem being theirs always cars on them. I wonder how difficult it will be to get owners to shove along. Some i notice have been their overnight. Not many own EV's at moment, but could be a problem down the line.

So no peace on day 1 ? Oh well ... let's be honest we want peace so Russians and Ukrainians can get the hell out of Thailand.

My condo has EV chargers - how would i gather if they are using the LA rate, and not adding their own charges on top ?

How is that compared to normal petrol fuel ?

Still trying to work out what job she was doing out there ... i mean seriously she can't be out there teaching English? So what's left ?

What happened to FREE SPEECH ? Didn't JD Vance go to Europe and lecture everyone about allowing free speech? Or is free speech (usually an opportunity to be racist) only the kind of speech YOU want to hear. Hypocrisy is unbelievable.

There are many Brits in Pattaya when i venture to those areas, and regulars. Most who sit their long term, are on some form of benefits back in the UK, some setting up accounts in Phillppines - these people look thick as anything but when it comes to fiddling the system suddenly turn into Steve Jobs. They're all racist too, and blame all the issues on immigrants, meanwhile they themselves are fleecing their own country.

The problem is she has a history of (and im being generous) exagerating claims. Can anyone believe this? Noticed this thread is very quiet with Brits on this forum ,who would usually be all over it. Most likely hoping this story gets no traction of foreigners sitting abroad claiming benefits - COS THERE IS ALOT OF THEM DOING THIS.