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I guess when you've nothing, all you can do is make it personal. You've got nothing. You're the one who accused PC Magazine and Morgan Stanley of hating the United States and boosting China. I don't know if that's due to hysteria or just ignorance. If you keep this up, I'll produce evidence from Microsoft itself that it's using DeepSeek. Will you accuse Microsoft of lying?

In the real world, there are rightwing media who do fact-checking on stories coming from the left. Just as there are left wing media checking up on stories from the right. Nothing both sided don't enjoy as much as a good gotcha. Let me know when some reputable right wing organization comes up with evidence that this is false. And no, anonymous members of aseannow.com don't count as such.

Except we have a source called The Guardian that verifiably exists. We can't say the same about your brother-in-law's nephew.

Are you claiming it's a lie? that Microsoft and Perplexity haven't adopted DeepSeek? Either you've got evidence or you've got nothing.

He got it from a source that the mods don't have a problem with. If you have counter-evidence to offer, please share it. Otherwise, you've got nothing.

So now at least you'lre admitting thatyou believe it's primarily China's continuing theft that is keeping it in the race.

Is the penguin a Republican?

Well, you provided evidence about thermal protection systems. But you didn't provide evidence that the use of stainless steel was previously addressed or that it isn't a big deal.

That's a question you are about to regret asking: DeepSeek Is Here to Stay as Microsoft, Perplexity Integrate Its Model Microsoft and Perplexity have integrated the DeepSeek R1 model into their services after supposedly overcoming some of the data privacy and censorship concerns surrounding the Chinese-made model. Microsoft made DeepSeek R1 available on Azure AI Foundry (with a subscription) and GitHub (for free). It's one of 1,800 models Microsoft currently offers. Perplexity is offering R1 to Pro subscribers ($20/month), who can choose between it and other high-performing models, such as OpenAI's GPT-o1 and Anthropic's Claude-3.5, according to Seach Engine Journal. https://www.pcmag.com/news/deepseek-is-here-to-stay-as-microsoft-perplexity-integrate-its-model China's DeepSeek Moment For a government seeking to reinvigorate its economy and infuse its youth with optimism, DeepSeek’s emergence is more than just an artificial intelligence (AI) milestone – it’s a timely symbol of China’s ambition to claim a leadership role in the tech revolution. DeepSeek’s breakthrough will likely inspire a new generation of Chinese talent at a time of renewed nationalism. With China’s strengths in consumer technologies and cost efficiency, we believe a new path has opened for emerging market investors to participate in the AI wave, beyond the supply chain-centric thematic offered by Taiwan and Korea. https://www.morganstanley.com/im/es-es/institutional-investor/insights/articles/chinas-deep-seek-moment.html

My point is that the contempt of China's economy propounded by so many of Trump's supporters is foolish in the extreme. And people who dismiss that are being willfully blind. I've also posted lots of comments condemning the Chinese management of their economy, too, As well as condemning their aggression towards their neighbors

No, it wasn'treally a both are true claim. You gave top billing to their copying and theft. How much lower a rank that comment of yours assigns to chinese skills is anybody's guess. But it was a lower rank.

Another empty assertion. You've got nothing.

This is what you said..."With high regard to Chinese scientific and engineering skills, especially the ability to copy build on stolen borrowed technology," Your expression of high regard was just a ploy to denigrate China's achievement

When you can prove objectively that you are a mind reader, then your allegation will qualify as a fact. I'll be waiting.

Yes the headline was hyperbolic. But you continue to push the liine that it's technology is based on stealing. Given that it leads in many areas, does that mean it's stealing from the future? Maybe they stole a time machine from America?

And my posts on the topic from sources such as the Wall Street Journal, The Financial Times and Bloomberg.com, also mean I should be dismissed as unserious?

As usual. Shooting the messenger. Making it all about me. Why don't you offer a rebuttal based on China's economy? It looks to me that the reason for your deflection is that you've got nothing.

If that was your point why did you claim "Problem solved"? Why doesn't that make you recognize that it might be dangerous to have an ignoramus making such important decisions?

How does revealing how strong the competiton is translate to support? How does denigrating China's capabilities help the US to strategize effectively?

Jike those American automobile execs who dismissed the threat posed by the Japanese auto industry. Apparently, you both think it's wise to have contempt for the competition.

I wonder where you get your news from. This was actually a notorious error from Trump: Trump-ordered Water Release Wasted Billions Of Gallons: Experts Donald Trump's demand for billions of gallons (liters) of water to be released in California, in what he said was a move to help combat fires in Los Angeles, was wasteful and pointless, experts say. The US president told military engineers to open two dams in the state's central valley, claiming it would help put out blazes that have ravaged the city and would also irrigate farmland. But water experts say the order opening dams in California's San Joaquin Valley sent water down channels and waterways into irrigation ditches in the same valley -- nowhere near the fires, and at a time when farms there do not need irrigating. https://www.barrons.com/news/trump-ordered-water-release-wasted-billions-of-gallons-experts-aa1e7dc8

Is this a concession that Trumpists are not happy about the iPhone news? That they concede that Trump blinked first?

Thanks for the order. I'll just offer you a suggestion: stick to the issues and stop sharing your feelings or the lack of them with the rest of us.

How do the facts and circumstances differ? Like Biden, he invoked a law that makes no mention of the justification he used to invoke it. As for you not knowing about "any entity that's even brought this one to lower courts, much less SCOTUS." ....you need to widen your news sources Conservative Legal Group Sues Trump Over China Tariffs https://www.newsmax.com/finance/streettalk/ncla-lawsuit-trump-administration/2025/04/03/id/1205615/ Rightwing group backed by Koch and Leo sues to stop Trump tariffs https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/07/trump-tariffs-lawsuit You also need to understand that lawsuits generally don't begin at the Supreme Court level. And when I say "generally" I mean virtually always.