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Thailand partners with Turkey to build high-speed rail empire
Patong2021 replied to snoop1130's topic in Thailand News
One large city is not proof of anything. One need only look at some of Istanbul's cities that experienced recent earthquakes. They are scarred collapsed buildings and failed infrastructure due to shoddy construction. The article boasts of "proven expertise in cutting production costs by using 75% locally sourced parts, slashing expenses by up to 20% compared to imported options." and it was because of that strategy that so many of Turkey's buildings collapsed during the earth tremors. -
THAI to fly wide-body jets on domestic routes this December
Patong2021 replied to snoop1130's topic in Thailand News
TG has used the widebodies during previous peak periods. Every airline boosts capacity when there is a demand. -
Aussie teen dies in Bangkok after Laos poisoning, 4 dead
Patong2021 replied to snoop1130's topic in Bangkok News
And once again, the nasty old blowhards are out in full force to blame the victims. Methanol is a common event in South Asia. This has been reported on and documented. For example, Giovanetti F. Methanol poisoning among travellers to Indonesia. Travel Med Infect Dis. 2013;11(3):190–193. doi: 10.1016/j.tmaid.2013.03.013. Westerners who come from countries where there is regulation and a degree of quality assurance do not appreciate that South Asia is the region where anything can go, and where alcohol that is dispensed from a name brand brand bottle can be bootleg counterfeit and deadly. The extent of poisoning is intentionally suppressed as it would destroy the tourist trade in many regions. The intent may not be to poison or to kill. Unfortunately, like all counterfeit products in Asia, the goal is to make a quick profit. The suppliers of the products have no care for product quality or assurance. That comment is more appropriate for a judgemental person who ridicules without knowing the extent of the problem , nor the manner in which it occurs. The kids who were poisoned were typical of their age group. To call them morons , aside from being heartless and cruel says alot about you. To all those criticizing the victims, why not look at your own local bars and see if you can determine if the liquor dispensed is bonafide. Don't be so arrogant to believe that some operators don't substitute counterfeit versions.I can think of one bar that had the same vodka bottle on its shelf for years. The owner would refill it from a plastic bottle. -
The video was a parody and has absolutely no validity. I am amazed at the gullibility and stupidity of some people. Please read the US Constitution; Article II, Section 1, Clause 5: No Person except a natural born Citizen,....... shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither Elon Musk was not born in the USA. He cannot become President of the USA. Surely, the "Birther" nonsense that Trump pushed in respect to President Obama can not have been forgotten so quickly?
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Elderly British Man Injured in Electric Tricycle Crash in Pattaya
Patong2021 replied to Georgealbert's topic in Pattaya News
So many mean and nasty people who appear to be projecting their own fears. To those saying that the man is in the wrong because he was on the road, have you ever been in Thailand? Sidewalks are often impassable, or too narrow and filled with obstacles making it near impossible to use for people with mobility issues. Curbs are rarely adjusted to allow ease of transition between two adjacent sidewalks. People in wheelchairs and mobility scooters are forced into the roads and they are allowed to be there. To those claiming the device was illegal; read the applicable Vehicle Act, B.E. 2522 (1979. Motorized wheelchairs are legal and do not require a license or registration. As per the Act definitions, a “Motorcycle” means a vehicle driven by motor or electric power with not more than two wheels, or not more than an additional wheel in a sidecar, and shall include a bicycle equipped with motor driven devices; A mobility "scooter" typically has 4 wheels, and is not considered to be a vehicle. To those claiming the man was drunk or blind; what part of pallet left in a road (and without warning barriers, signs, or lights) did you miss? If one cycles or drives a motorbike drives long enough in Thailand, one will have a similar incident when people leave debris or construction material in the road without any warning indicators. At night, in poorly lit areas, it is easy to run into them. I ran over rebar that was just left on the road, and I nearly wiped out. Thailand is not very mobility friendly to the elderly or those with physical impairments. Not everyone wishes to live in a confined space. Wait until you have a mobility issue and then you will understand the difficulties people encounter. One doesn't realize how difficult it is to walk around in Thai urban areas until one has an injury or an impairment. -
Would Donald Trump’s tariffs hurt US consumers?
Patong2021 replied to simple1's topic in Political Soapbox
The assumption that tariffs will bring back manufacturing to the USA is unfounded. Supply chains and logistics, access to skilled and cost effective labour, and access to markets are the drivers of manufacturing location. Consumers forced the relocation of consumer goods to low cost countries because consumers refused to pay $25 for an item that they felt should cost $10. Manufacturers liked the profit margins. The USA did not have workers willing to work low wage manufacturing jobs. Even when the wages were good, the product quality was terrible. The US auto industry killed itself in the 1970's with its poor quality vehicles that ignored consumer desires. Consumers want the high quality Japanese vehicles and forcing them to pay more isn't going to help Chrysler or GM sell more of its crap. The United States Tariff Act of 1930, aka the Smoot-Hawley Tariff was an unmitigated economic disaster. It resulted in a catastrophic trade disruption and magnified the negative effects of the the Republican induced Great Depression. Prior to its implementation, more than 1,000 economists urged President Hoover to veto the Act, but he refused. In the words of the great US sage Yogi Berra, it's deja vu all over again, because economists are warning Trump not to impose tariffs. Broad tariffs implementation are anything but compatible with "free thought" and are not Democratic. On the contrary, they are hallmarks of dictatorships and of simplistic thinking when confronted with complex issues. If there are issues with alleged dumping or unfair trade practices, deal with them directly. Mass threats do not work and have never worked, because corrupt people will find away to work around the edicts. It is obvious that you haven't the slightest clue on anything. You are like those people in the US who claim they are Sovereign Citizens and recite mangled misinterpreted nonsensical legal references. You accuse proponents of liberalized equitable trade practice as being leftists, and yet you offer absolute support for tariffs. Broad tariffs and restrictive trade practices go hand in hand and they have never delivered the promised results in the USA. Anyone who disagrees is accused of being a "leftist". -
Would Donald Trump’s tariffs hurt US consumers?
Patong2021 replied to simple1's topic in Political Soapbox
The tariffs are intended to get the attention of the countries who trade with the USA. In some cases, the USA is quite right to threaten the use of tariffs. Mexico has willingly facilitated China's export strategy, exploiting the US/Canada/Mexico trade pact hurting both Canada and the USA. However, if the USA imposes an across the board 10% tariff, it will hurt the US economy and will have some serious immediate damage to key Republican strongholds.This would translate into an absolute rout of the Republicans in two years at the midterm election. Just as the USA is free to attach tariffs, so to can other countries like Canada. 30+ US states have Canada as their largest market and some Republican states are dependent upon Canadian trade. Canada can choose to purchase more produce from its latin American trade partners, or make a push to expand trade with its APEC trade partners. The EU will present a united front and will retaliate. Tariffs are easier said than done. The USA is dependent upon some countries for critical imports. Critical Minerals are one example; The USA does not have trillions of dollars of liquid gold that it can sell. According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) 64% of total U.S. crude oil production in 2023. came from tight oil, i.e fracking of shale. This has tremendous environmental consequences for the USA, in particular to US agriculture. Fracking requires large amounts of water and many regions just don't have it to spare. It is a pipe dream to assume that manufacturers will move the manufacturing of cheap consumer items to the USA. They are labour intensive. US consumers who vote for Trump are going to be upset if the mop at walmart that once cost $10, now costs $20. Oh sure, eggs might be cheap, but the new Secretary of Health may not support that strategy. The use of chemicals. antibiotics and growth hormones to produce bigger farm animals might no longer be allowed and poof goes your factory egg farms. -
Egyptian Tourist Arrested for Sexual Assault in Luxury Condo Lift
Patong2021 replied to webfact's topic in Bangkok News
Be fair. Those assaults were 25+ years ago. It was a different era. They would not get a pass if they did it now. Sexual assault is a part of the Egyptian culture, so he may have believed he was doing anything wrong. In Egypt, sexual harassment is a major public threat against women for which there has been no sustainable policy or practice. Such harassment can range from verbal to physical—the latter of which can lead to severe harm and, in some cases, murder. According to a 2013 United Nations report, nine out of ten Egyptian women have been sexually assaulted—ranging from simple harassment to rape. This demonstrates a real problem that requires rapid and sustainable solutions, policies, and advocacy work. There has been extensive public discussion on the topic for the last couple of years, and the state has denied the breadth and severity of the problem. Source: The Tahrir Institute for Middle East Policy (TIMEP) https://timep.org/2021/12/14/sexual-harassment-laws-in-egypt-does-stricter-mean-more-effective/ -
British Tourist Found Dead in Phuket Drainage Ditch
Patong2021 replied to Georgealbert's topic in Phuket News
Patong has many of these types of sewage/drainage catchment areas. Usually they have grates over them. An example are the grates on the side of the entrance to the Jungceylon (Patong) parking area at Rat u Thit Rd. The railings shown are not particularly secure, but at least there is something. -
Thailand relies on natural gas for its electricity generation (68% in 2023). Canada has some of the lowest electrical rates in the world. The abundance of water resources in some provinces allows for their rates to be a fraction of many other highly industrialized nations. 2023 average rates for 1000 kw consumption was; British Columbia 11.4¢/kWh (2.83 baht) Manitoba 10.2¢/kWh (2.53 baht). For comparison sake, even with a large residential subsidy, Thais pay a higher rate; Electricity Tariffs Schedule 1: Residential (Applicable to households and other dwelling places, monasteries, rectories and places of worship, including its compound through a single watt-hour meter.) 1.1 Normal Rate Energy Charge (per kWh) Service Charge Baht Baht/month 1.1.1 Consumption not exceeding 150 kWh per month 8.19 - First 15 kWh (0-15th) 2.35 - Next 10 kWh (16th-25th) 2.99 - Next 10 kWh (26th-35th) 3.24 - Next 65 kWh (36th-100th) 3.62 - Next 50 kWh (101st-150th) 3.72 - Next 250 kWh (151st-400th) 4.22 - Over 400 kWh (401st and over) 4.42 Germany has a rate of about 14.5 baht kWh Australia (varies by state/territory dependent) 6.5 kW/h Overall, Thais are doing ok with their electricity rates. What kills many of us who rent is that the landlords inflate the rate for their own gain.
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Looks like it was a planned absence. He most likely is having a holiday, or medical treatment or perhaps engaged in planning meetings. He will eventually emerge, and his fans at this forum will cheer him on.
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How do you know? You have no facts but are quick to accuse. You are the worst type of person to have in a community because you stir up trouble just for the sake of personal agenda. The electricity bill covered what period of use? Are you certain someone else was not connected to their electrical grid? The consumer received a bill. It is up to the consumer to accept or to contest the invoice. A high invoice can be caused by many reasons, none of which you have verified, but there you are to point your accusatory finger. It is not just unfair, but nasty and malicious to accuse when there is no evidence to support the claim.
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Appeal Launched for British Teacher Gravely Injured in Thailand Crash
Patong2021 replied to webfact's topic in Thailand News
Have you tried reading an article before rushing to blame and condemn. The man had insurance. It will not cover all of the related expenses. -
It is you who is wrong. Have you read the Act? Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, B.E. 2539 [1996] This Act prohibits both male and female prostitution in public places and brothels and classifies prostitution as illegal. It also prohibits advertisement for and procurement of prostitutes as well as ownership or management of brothels. The Act also establishes a Committee for Protection and Development of Occupation (P.D.O.) which shall prescribe and implement policies for the eradication of prostitution. Also provides for the establishment of rehabilitation institutions known as the Place for First Receiving, and the Place for Protection and Development of Occupation. The Place for First Receiving shall receive persons convicted for prostitution and assess their mental and physical health, as well as their aptitudes. Convicted prostitutes may then be sentenced to the Place for Protection and Development, which shall provide occupational training and rehabilitation. Seriously, you should have looked up the law before rushing in to proclaim someone was "wrong".
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Surprise Surge: Thai Economy Outperforms Expectations with 3% Growth
Patong2021 replied to snoop1130's topic in Thailand News
Please. The 1970's called and they would like their bankrupt diatribes returned. Your statement "Poverty,.... is the result of modern governments simply not caring, e.g. the USA, or not being able to afford it, like some countries in Africa." is very off the mark. The USA national, state, county and municipal governments do care, and have provided an extensive array of social benefit plans and supports that are the envy of much of the world. Poverty in many cases is due to social and cultural practices and behaviours of the poor that keep them poor. The USA remains the land of opportunity for those who plan ahead and work hard. In other countries, poverty is a direct result of systemic corruption and selfishness which is a reflection of the local system of beliefs and local culture. Lloyd George sullied his legacy with his support of Germany post WWI. He was a staunch supporter of Germany's expansionist positions, and was a defacto enabler of German's invasion of Czechoslovakia and Poland. It is a cop out to blame politicians in democratic societies for social failures. The politicians are elected by the people or allowed to remain in their positions by the people. The USA just elected Mr. Trump. What now follows is entirely on those voters. The UK elected Labour and must now accept the ensuing economic devastation. In both cases, people were warned and told what would happen. To now turn around and blame the politicians for the problems that will ensue is an avoidance of responsibility. -
Boo hoo. Ask the natives in the Americas, India and Africa if they enjoyed having the British invade and plunder their wealth. Poor little UK is getting a taste of what it inflicted on the world for centuries. Same goes for Europe. As for the USA, it exploited and corrupted the Americas, attempted to annex Canada, grabbed land from both Canada and Mexico. The UK and USA forced opium on the Chinese and destroyed a nation leaving it weak.
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Intoxicated tourist detained after Pattaya restaurant altercation
Patong2021 replied to snoop1130's topic in Pattaya News
Funnily enough, he sounded a bit scottish to me. In any case, he looked like a scared rabbit when he walked into the restaurant/bar. I didn't see any type of aggression on his part. Nor are we shown the part where he gets beaten on the back of his head. perhaps there is more to this story than the edited recording? -
What did you have for breakfast?
Patong2021 replied to BritManToo's topic in Western Food in Thailand
A home made mixed pea soup made in a chicken stock, with a generous portion of vegetables. I also added some smoked ham for a bit of pizzazz, accompanied by dark rye bread. -
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LOL @ betrayal. The one thing that the Trump campaign was open and consistent on was its support of Israel. The arab community and its allies wanted to punish the Democrats by with holding their support in key districts and states like Michigan. Harris lost Michigan by 80,000 votes, yet the Democrats won the Senate race by 21,000 votes. On the plus side, it took a right wing old fart like Menachem Begin to get a peace deal with Egypt and Jordan. Former right wing PM Ariel Sharon was close to a peace deal too until Arafat ran away. Maybe Trump will surprise everyone. If there is one guy who might be crazy enough to get everyone to the peace table, it will be Trump. And maybe, just maybe a peace deal will what finally triggers the collapse of the Netanyahu coalition and gets him out of politics.
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Neo-Nazis March in Ohio, Sparking Outrage and Condemnation
Patong2021 replied to Social Media's topic in World News
More like they voted against Harris and the Democratic platform. Remember to that almost 44% of the Ohio voters, 2,476,003 people did not. That's not fair. There is no evidence to support your claim that Trump is their president. If anything, Trump's administration will be the most Israel friendly since Truman. That's not a fair comment to ask of him. Nothing he has written has ever supported such people or their politics. -
Israel Destroyed Secret Iranian Nuclear Weapons Research Facility
Patong2021 replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Some heroic Iranians are helping Israel. Everyday these Iranians put their lives on the line in hope of one day liberating their nation from the grip of ignorant religious extremists. -
To summarize, a sex tourist picked up a hooker and brought he/she back to his room. He discovered that what he thought was a she was a he and was upset and demanded the prostitute depart. The prostitute expected to be compensated for time on the clock, while the john refused. A fight ensued with damage to the room and a disturbance at the hotel. Boo hoo. The john cannot claim any "damages" for the deception since he was engaged in an illegal activity. The law does not allow for the compensation of loss due to the undertaking of illegal activity. If anything, he should be charged for soliciting the services of a prostitute, which is illegal in Thailand. The prostitute was under no obligation to declare his/her sex, unless it was specifically asked. If the question was not asked and the sexual acts not set out, then the john has no basis to complain: He wanted to have a sexual event, and the prostitute was willing to provide it.