jerrymahoney

Thanks Ms. Sheryl for the input on WorldMed Phi Phi. Persons throughout this topic have asked Why Bangkok Hospital Phuket? when there were other lesser cost alternatives (maybe) available.. I suspected that arrangements related to the speedboat ride to Phuket maybe had some part in the equation.

From page1 OP: Since a speed boat rushed the 23-year-old to Bangkok Phuket Hospital for life-saving surgery, the couple's medical bills have piled up.

Yes and that'd be easy as so much of your stuff is copy & paste https://aseannow.com/topic/1259040-no-country-for-old-men-certainly-not-thailand/?do=findComment&comment=17352178

Some girls can play the long game too because what they really want is to meet the rich friends of his that he is always talking about.

This is from Koh Samui Hospital with some editing: Oversea Insurance An insurance operated by the international company. Which is designed to meet the needs of travelers or tourists. How to claim medical expenses coverage? Outpatient and emergency With the conditions of different international business hours and long processing times, a hospital reserves the right by requiring patients to pay for a hospital expense by themselves. The hospital will prepare a medical certificate and receipt for patients to process the claim on their own. https://www1.samuihospital.go.th/weben/how-to-use.php

Well Ms. Spry's father said that his daughter was at "a state" hospital" so I just presume -- not having been on Koh Samui for 35 years -- that maybe there was more than one.

The hospital-that -misdiagnosed-your-cancer. There is only one public hospital on Koh Samui but I do not know where you went

From: AXA Travel Sawasdee Thailand: Inbound Travel Insurance for Thailand visitors Claim > Does AXA offer cashless facilities at hospitals? Do I have to pay upfront at the hospital? For outpatient (OPD): No, AXA doesn’t offer cashless for OPD treatment. You must make payment first and reimburse with AXA later. For Inpatient (IPD): Yes, we do offer cashless if you’re admitted as an inpatient in AXA hospital network. You may be required to make payment to hospitals when we do not receive in time all information or documentation required to conclude the claim assessment. You can submit claim form including all required documentation for us to consider reimbursement. https://www.axa.co.th/faq-sawasdee-thailand-inbound#collapse21 This is a list of AXA travel insurance inbound to Thailand hospital direct pay network https://thailandgi.cdn.axa-contento-118412.eu/thailandgi/0cced181-c61e-4296-a092-fdbfc8388977_Hospital-Table-EN.pdf

My experience was that CIGNA Global (not CIGNA Thailand) even within the same hospital group would pay direct with hospitals in Bangkok with the RamKhamhaeng Group and Thonburi Group but not to to hospitals in the same group upcountry. So I don't see why the big surprise that private hospitals might generally not pay direct to government hospitals or that they do not pay direct to ALL private hospitals. Insurers would have a list as to who is in their direct pay category.

the hospital that misdiagnosed my cancer! That's a funny name for a hospital.

Guidance How charges for NHS healthcare apply to overseas visitors Updated 31 December 2020 Within England, free NHS hospital treatment is provided on the basis of someone being ‘ordinarily resident' (first sentence) https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care/how-the-nhs-charges-overseas-visitors-for-nhs-hospital-care

As I said, I have never had any dealings with a government hospital. I suspect that it heavily leans toward the insurers not wanting to deal with government hospital accounting departments than the other way around.

No. I have never dealt with a government hospital. I think it is mostly the other way around: Insurers will only work direct pay with hospitals that the have previously approved Indeed that was the main impetus to my leaving CIGNA Global -- because I was moving to an area where they had no approved direct pay private hospitals. The procedure for dealing with a not previously approved direct pay private hospital was onerous. I once tried to see if CIGNA Global would work direct pay with KhonKaen Ram hospital who was unapproved at the time while the main Ramkhamhaeng hospital in Bangkok was approved. Sorry -- Could not be done. That is my personal experience. Not 'I reckon'.

Maybe it is the other way around: Some insurers will not pay direct to government hospitals. One pays the hospital first, then is reimbursed by the insurer. That presumes the insurer agrees to reimburse at all.

At least per Ms. Spry's father, she is now at a "state hospital" on Koh Samui.

As per Ms. Spry's father: Since her accident on February 9, Ruby has had issues with her travel insurance who have refused to pay for her treatment first in the nearest hospital to her crash then at a state-funded hospital on Ko Samui. https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/dad-injured-cornish-woman-thailand-8152154

whilst my recent claim was denied my previous claim in 2016 was approved. its a mixed bag !! Sure but it's like the old newspaper saw: It isn't news when the plane lands safely.

Be careful with that. If Vernon Unsworth hears you, he might sue.

This is quote from the injured Ms. Spry's father: Joe wanted to warn others travelling to places like Thailand or event America to check they have the right paperwork in place before going. He added: "There must be tens of thousands of people who go to Thailand every year and hire these motorbikes thinking it's oK as everyone has them. You see young kids drive them so people think it'll be OK too, but, if you do not have a motorbike driving licence or the right travel insurance in place for things like this, they won't pay up if anything happens to you." https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/dad-injured-cornish-woman-thailand-8152154

Well then, my apologies. You mean SOME claims do get paid? One might have a hard time realizing that after reading some of these topics.

... and then they deny your claim, anyway. Right?

From NY Times Feb. 18, 2023 (paywall): The (Carter) center did not elaborate on what conditions had prompted the recent hospital visits or his decision to enter hospice care.

All these Federal actions may become a side-show compared to state actions in Georgia: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/georgia-judge-release-parts-grand-jury-report-trump-election-probe-rcna70397

There have been no details made of the medical condition that prompted this hospice decision. It seems that the doctors said Mr. Carter would have to be re-admitted to the hospital, and the former President said: No way

My favorite line about President Carter was, after serving one term as Georgia governor, he went into his mother's room one morning and said: Mother, I've decided to run for President. Miss Lillian replied: That's nice, Jimmy. President of what?