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No need to justify the purchase, just explaining how much more economical it is to operate & maintain. Much less than an ICEV. I think the numbers went over your head. Over the life of our BEV, we will have saved almost the cost of the initial purchase. As we do rack up the kms. 20k the first, second 20k took a bit longer, over 1 year. Rack up the same kms, and an ICEV will cost you the price of the car, to operate & maintain. That's a damn economical purchase, comfy and performs nicely. If waited 2.5 yrs, then could have save ฿220k on purchase price ... BUT ... loss the same, due to more depreciation of car we sold, and loss of petrol savings on the 45k kms we racked up. Also missed out on driving a better performing car. This is probably the last car I'll own, and definitely the last car the wife will own, as she won't rack up the kms after I crap out. And she's 22 yrs younger. She'll be driving it for another 20 yrs or more. If she puts 20 kms on a week, that would be a lot for her. Now, about same buy in cost for ICEV & BEV BEV ... 20k local kms, cost ฿13k a year, charging at home (PEA/MEA) ICEV ... 20k local kms, cost ฿46k a year. (14 kpL @ ฿32 / Liter) What ever makes one happy. HAPPY TRAVELS ... Be Safe (adjusted petrol cost, as down from ฿35 to ฿32 / L ... for now)

Same with me, but married (2014), after living together for 8 yrs, and I finally decided, 2016, to stay in Thailand. So moved from Udon to Prachuap, and new house & vehicles in her name. I move all SS funds in my account, to her account, every 3 or 4 months, or I need to file FBAR (USA requirement if $10k in bank). Would be the only thing needed at probate, anything not moved yet, if death cert. isn't accepted at bank. Also, if I have a med oops, she has access to funds if needed. If she has an oops, govt healthcare covers. So I really don't need access to anything. If the worse, she craps out, everything willed (registered) to daughter, so no issues there.

I visited more than a few times 2003-2006, and definitely not for me. The touristy area anyway(surf to 3rd rd to Suk rd/hwy 3). Outside of town would be fine, guessing, though not much of a an of Chonburi province, the parts I've visited. Don't even think I'd like it if I was 20 yrs younger & single. I enjoyed Udon Thani as a younger (shy of 50 yr old), single weekend warrior.

I agree 100% ... BUT ... there's always a but IF, having health issue attributed to alcohol & tobacco use, universal healthcare shouldn't cover medical cost. Self inflicted injury, shouldn't cost others money to treat. If you kill someone drunk driving, death penalty or life in jail seems appropriate. Live with Your Choices ... or consequences of.

@Lacessit continue over here, as off topic enough, talking about my replies, let alone ROI on vehicles in that thread. https://aseannow.com/topic/1362851-my-wife-wanted-me-to-sign-a-document-any-money-she-gets-is-hers/page/3/#comment-19851553 ... "You shelled out what? 800,000 baht for an EV? More? ... I bought a 2006 Toyota Vios for 230,000 baht about 12 years ago. It had 83,000 km on the odometer. I've done 120,000 km in it, never missed a beat. It's worth about 80,000 baht now. ... That's 12,500 baht a year in depreciation. What's yours, Mr. Financial Genius?" ... First off, MG ZS & T. Vios is not an apples & apples comparison. Along with new vs 2nd hand purchase & depreciation, as most is loss simply driving off the lot. Depends if keeping till vehicle dies, or not drivable any more, and then worth what. We energize ours with 'excess' solar, if driving 20k kms a year locally, that's ~฿59k a year saved vs petrol. Just during the 8 yr warranty, that's ฿400k saved. Still retains 70-80% battery capacity. Actually more, but I think warranty states 70 or 80% If having to pay PEA/MEA to charge at home, still save ฿40k a year. Actually cost calculation between MG ZS EV & ICE, as we owned both. New versions, S5, has a lifetime battery warranty, any owner. Easy to sell 2nd hand if wanting. Though at 10 years old, no car bought for <฿750k is going to be worth much. Just keep or give to one of the kids. What we did with our 7 yr old Mazda 2. She smartly sold it, before it's impending death and bought an Atto 3. Estimated (conservation), life span of LFP battery (MG ZS), 2500 cycles, or 920k kms or 46 years @ 20k kms a year, and still retains 70% of battery capacity. So that car will never be sold. When the rest can keep up with the battery, the battery pack will be added to the solar. 46.3kWh usable X 70% = 32kWh, or ฿130k if bought today. 2X 15kWh ESS @ ฿65K each. Adds value when the car dies, instead of, ICEV - simply parts sold & scrap metal by weight, or, BEV - parts sold, battery pack sold, or, repurposed for your solar, to live on, a couple more decades of use. Numbers ... paid ฿949k for our ZS (no price war) Insured value, 2.5 yrs owning, ฿590 (?) New price now ... ฿829k (supposedly future ZSs - hybrids) New replacement model (S5) ... ฿739k About same price as the under performing top end Yaris/Vios. For apples to apples price point comparison. Though cost to operate ICEV, is 4X as much, wen charging at home, without solar, instead of buying petrol. Or better comparison, sedan / sedan, Yaris/Vios and MG4, priced at only ฿609k, same lifetime battery, same savings over buying petrol. For easy math ... cost of ownership for 10 yrs ... BEV @ ฿600K save ฿40k year (no petrol, 10 yrs) = ฿400k saved = ? ... ICEV @ ฿600K cost ฿400k extra (over 10 yrs, petrol) = ? #1 ... I wonl't buy a 2nd hand car here, I prefer new #2 ... at this stage in ife, I wouldn't buy a 7 yr old car We sold 3 cars at the 7 yr / 125k kms mark (2025 - 12 yrs = 2013-7 yrs = 2006) #3 ... it wouldn't be a Vios, (owned 2), I prefer better comfort & performance now. And yes, buying 2nd hand and keeping till dies, is usually (pre-BEV), a better economic value, and exactly what I did when living in USA, with 1 exception, and that was a work truck, as needing dependability. Now, 'fact is' ... long game is owning a BEV, whether new, or better savings, 2nd hand. ... BEV cost the same or less ... they perform better ... cost less to operate & maintain ... go MG (nice line up; MG4 or S5), and never worry about the battery ... NEVER 2006, a 2nd hand car was the way to go, if not wanting new. 2025, no, fool's folly.

I had that with the 1st Thai wife. Although, reality is, if living at village with her family, if they don't want you around, you really should leave The POA was way more important, and sold the house, ASAP, without her at the land office

Nah, I enjoy a chuckle now and then, but replied too many times already. Hate to have them use up all the tissues in one thread

Actually they were mutual, we processed and filed ourselves, no lawyers. Still friends with both, and still talk with the one. Never had a bad break up.

You got that wrong, not mad at all, as enjoy a chuckle. With that ... ... BYE BYE

Agree, and respect 👍 Much better than the idiots that post they banged 5 hookers this week, like that was some kind of conquest or accomplishment.

Had everything to do with my reply, and the topic. Along with much of the thinking of most expats ... ... if I didn't have money would she be with me, us ... if she gets money, would she leave ... if more valuable dead than alive, would you have 'accident' ... she has money & assets, and yet she stays Don't think too hard, you might hurt yourself Remember, critiquing my reply, has nothing to do with the topic. Says a wee bit more about you, than me. Troll On ... or ... Feel free to add me to your ignore list....PLEASE

Not much different in the 'west' when it comes to divorce court, whether right or wrong. Somehow the chickies, come out of court with the better deal. Thankfully we were DINKS, and I was poor, for the 2 divorces, in the USA I'm bragging again, married 4X ... y'all impressed Need some relationship advice ????

I wouldn't state just 'house & car', as wouldn't want anyone to think that meant an ICE, and consider me that stupid to own one, especially when have solar. Oh sh!t, and he has solar ... OMG, what a genius You guts really need to get a life, other the critiquing my replies, and giving me thumbs down emojis. But hey, thanks for the chuckles.

My wife was self supporting before she met me, computer graphic design. With excellent investment skills. Along with, she could literally build a house herself with a crew. She's that good, as her Greenhouse shows. She re-plumbed this house, under the floor, as you wouldn't believe the crap job the builder did. Luckily their only building failure.

HEY ... my dog loves me, even after she eats. Follows me around all day, and laying next to me now. And I'm sure she knows, if the would came to end, no food in house, and it was just me, the wife & dog, we'd be eating the wife to survive And not in a good way .... for her. Either can leave or kick me out, anytime they want ... and yet

Does add meaning to the reply. On a retirement visit, not using an agent. No real surprises, as I post about house & BEV, when queries are posted. Far from rich, and simply enough. Who doesn't make sure the wife & kid have a secure future when you're gone. Not that either need me now. Anyone, my or our age, that don't have some assets, then you made some really bad choices in life. If I threw in I retired at 45, then that would be tootin' my own horn. 70 yrs old, don't own house (if wanting) or vehicle (no payments, if wanting), and living month to month. How does that even happen ? Especially if coming from one of those universal healthcare countries. A house, car & oops fund ... that shouldn't impress anyone

I guess she doesn't realize binding contracts & wills have to be in Thai script. Does she plan on getting a certified translation ? Any witnesses to your signature ? Me & wife ... alll funds & property are already in wife's name. I'm 70, and she's put up with me for almost 20 years, so she deserves it, and so much more. Since she has it already, and still with me, it must be LOVE ❤️ Me hanging around any longer, isn't worth the wee bit more she'll be getting. AND ... I don't need to look over my shoulder, as the longer I'm around, she gets 500k-1M more, every year. I really need to start some frivolous spending. Hey, I did look at that E-pick up truck

"More taxes will solve everything ... ... and the band played on" - Temptations "Ball of Confusion (That's What the World Is Today)" - Norman Whitfield & Barrett Strong https://aseannow.com/topic/1347805-if-you-are-listening-to-music-whats-playing-2025/page/3/#findComment-19851191

They are smoking hot, with decades of sexual experience to Rock Your World ... ❤️

Mind boggling. Are they that ignorant, or tax revenue more important than health. They should be banning alcohol & tobacco products, not encouraging their use. 🥵

And don't forget, NO PLASTIC, use paper bags ... because cutting down trees is so ECO FRIENDLY

No ICEV and all BEV ... exhaust and noise pollution solved Next time y'all are standing on the corners of soi 6 & 2nd Rd, Bangla & beach rd, or Soe 4 & Suk rd ... hold your breath, and stick your fingers in your ears ... ... welcome to the world of BEV ...

Correct, the powdered is much better Nothing would improve StarCraps coffee.

For insurance purposely, best to blame the cargo EV don't just flame up when sitting, turned off. While charging or having an oops, yes.