KhunLA

What's your present PEA unit/kW usage ? At present, our solar/panels & ESS provide all needed, and being sort of conservative, that's less than 15 kW a day. 2 frigs 1 AC (inv. 9K BTU), 1 fan are the mandatory appliances. 2 people, no water pump, couple electric kitchen appliance. 6.5 kw of that is overnight on the battery, using 2 frigs, AC, laptop/65 in TV from 1800-0700. 1800-2300 accounts for about 4kW, then the other 2.5 is while we're sleeping & sunrise coffee. Usually battery near 100% (10kW) at sunset, and not <35% (3.5kW) when solar starts producing again. TV off about 2300 hrs, and AC on every so often w/floor fan, till about same time. Then fan usually the rest of the night while sleeping. Cooking, dinner, showers done before sunset. Purposely being minimalistic, though AC use, as curious if solar is enough to be self sufficient. Actually our system (8kW & ESS) is way more than needed, even when not conservative. Which we're not very conservative any more, though interesting when testing. Any system 3kw & up, should provide 10kW a day & up, no ESS. Mr Google states 3kW inverter provides 300-400kW a month Without the ESS, our monthly usage would be ~200kW for overnight use. So PEA bill would be around B1000 3 or 5kW system should provide most with plenty of daytime use. I don't think most need to use AC (sporadically) & 65in TV at night for 5 ish hrs after sunset, so 200kW of PEA a month, for overnight should be high end for most folks.

Thought the same thing, as no way, is there 10k EV/cars ordered/put in for incentives here, since May or June. I think MG & GWM only had 2k units each available, and I think I'm being generous with those numbers. Or worse thought, people are scamming the incentive program, and stating cars sold, getting the incentives without sales. Wonder how the incentive program actual works, as most, if not all motorbikes, do NOT qualify, I think.

The other extreme, a full day while out & about. About 5kW for 24 hr period - 2 sm frigs (9&13.1cu) and 1 light on ???? 5 x 30 = 150 = ฿714 (PEA) not exactly cheap if Thai / minimum wage. Take that 1 thought further, and ฿1000 a month, times 5yrs equals ฿60k = 3kW inverter + 6 panels (540w), possibly even installed. 3kW should produce 300-400kW a month equals about a ฿1500-฿2100 PEA bill ... hmm Of course if working stiff, and everybody working or at school during the day ... oh krap

Until better inventions come along, (aside from hydro & wind for energy) then it's home Solar & EVs for anyone thinking 'green' ... until y'all start simply walking, or using bicycles or horses for transportation. Which, I actually don't have a problem, as everything I need, is within walking distance.

I've had great luck, though pretty good a sorting through the slime marketing. Just a couple negatives for all vendors, actually good considering the amount of orders I've placed. Now, on LAZ, it's only order from 'flagship or LAZMall' vendors. They refund as soon as the product is scanned at pick up. Then of course, since most COD, transfer to BkkBank account. All good, but yes, got to the not so "fine print "

Just had my 2nd negative experience, sort of, as can still refund since a LAZMALL vendor. This after 100s of orders with LAZ. Ordered 4 fake CCTV cams, all of ฿160 each, and 1 arrived broken. Fixable, so I chatted with vendor, asked if keep & fix (need auth before I do) or any compensation. They offered for me to 'keep it' & $3 USD (cost $4.32) pay back to PayPal, or return for full refund. I actually want them, and should be an easy fix with a bit of hot glue. Good deal for them, they don't pay for return shipping & full refund price. Ok for me, I keep, and get a couple beers for my trouble. 1-2-3-4 days, no activity in PP. Msgs said coming, then I'm blocked from contacting. Don't think they realize I still have a couple days to return. So guessing trying to stall till 7 day policy expires ... pretty sad. Also, I think the broken unit was a returned product, resent out. As the other 3 units, did not have the solar panel connected to the battery bay, and the broken one did ... hmm ... somebody connected it, and I don't think it was the factory.

Since we now have a digital meter, and yet to have a full sunny day since solar installed, I guess we'll never know what our full solar production potential can be. Unless they start paying for feed in to the grid, along with approving the Deye 8kW hybrid inverter. Until then, our best production, and AC abuse day was last month, 18th August. The day was even partly cloudy, shown by the peek & valleys, as the sun was blocked by the clouds, in & out all day. Production, shy of 50kW, consumption, just breaking 30kw IF PEA 30kW x 30 days for a monthly bill = ฿4,956.94 https://eservice.pea.co.th/EstimateBill/ Blue/production, Red/consumption, Below/to the grid ROI - ฿445k / 5k = 89 months = 7.4 yrs We don't even have the MG ZS EV yet ZS with a battery warranty of 8 yrs ... ????

Yes, Xmas is always a reminder for me to make a batch of EggNog, Pumpkin pie. Marketing that stays with you, even though you don't watch TV any more. Got to make my Mojitos on Cinco de Mayo, OK, not Tequila, but I've moved on.

Tradition or marketing ... think: Which ever ... a pot of Earl Grey is lovely

Best to actually read the OP & link provided before posting. Just a thought: "There are 2,572 power outlets at 869 charging stations nationwide. (TNA)"

Only if you're a 'traditionalist', and do things because people expect or tell you to. I suspect I do the opposite sometimes, just for spike. When ButterBalls were allowed in 'raw', I used to get one every month or so, and have them bandsaw in half, so a decent meal with leftovers for 2 or 3, instead of 10. Remember serving up a mini seafood buffet, or lobsters for Thanksgiving & Xmas ... must be the spiteful side of me. People telling me what & when to do things, sounds a bit silly to me.

Not sure daily or a weekly eating / sipping outing would be considered a tradition.

natural gas Compared with some other fossil fuels, natural gas emits the least amount of carbon dioxide into the air when combusted -- making natural gas the cleanest burning fossil fuel of all. It's a work in progress and TH is struggling. Those of us not waiting for others to solve the problem have already or will be going solar in the near future.

"There are 2,572 power outlets at 869 charging stations nationwide. (TNA)" https://tna.mcot.net/english-news-1024061

As always, UP2U, feel free to celebrate, recognize any tradition or holiday. I enjoy some holidays, even Christian, though an Atheist. Traditions, not so much. ex: tradition of flowers and or candy for Valentines, at 5-10X normal prices for roses. Some traditions are nothing but marketing, or money grab, as posted above - tradition women aren't equal in divorce or money matter in some countries. Not tradition, that just wrong. Best local example, Sin Sot, Thai / farang, it's tradition, but most Thais would never pay Sin Sot for used, divorced wife, 2nd marriage w/kids. But those benefitting will tell you, it's 'Thai tradition' ... ???? Fine line between some holidays, tradition, peer pressure, getting scammed ????

Old or new definition: "The CDC previously defined vaccination as: “The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, as per the update in September 2021, it defines it as: “The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce protection to a specific disease.” read into that what you want, I have my thoughts why... ... nuff said

That was quick PP in hand...nice 6 weeks to spare till ext. time / old PP expired.

... says the snake oil sales folk. % don't mean much in an unregulated market. I twist a doobie, usually 1 gr, if not feeling it before half gone (1/2 gr) then it's krap. Usually stop at half a doobie, and that last more than a couple hours. Rarely fire up the other half the same night. Latest, only 2nd purchase, ฿14 / gr does just that. Same as the ฿140 / gr did (฿79+S&H). Happy with both, but why pay 10X as much. Would have been cheaper, if bought volume, as I did the 2nd purchase of 100gr. Websites state both should be in the 20% +/- range, though haven't a clue since no testing equipment.

to the title ... NO, most are silly or marketing. Usually benefits the one stating the tradition.

I come in on 'new content', see headliner & last comment. Too lazy, don't care, or bother reading the OP, and just replied to comment quoted. A lot more to than just being lazy when it comes to deliveries. Now reading OP, competition crying ... oh well ... ???? Supply & demand, better service @ better price always wins. CAPITOLISM ROCKS GO CHINA ... oops, wrong thread ????

... and if doing legally, might involve 1-200 meter to an intersection or elevated walkover & back, or risk getting run over ... ???? Not going to mention rainy season and walking in sewer water ... ... oops

10-100-1000s of scooters on the road vs cars, is a major plus. To some it's economics, way cheaper to have delivered besides being easier than picking up. Especially if you, spouse, and little sh!ts all want something different. Try finding a parking spot for your car at your favorite shops at dining hours. Great for the business ... that don't have parking for more than 5 scooters, if that. win win win all around.

Kudos to them for living 'their' lives, out from under the royal 'thumb'. What a horrible family to be part of, and changing the name to Windsor back in 1917, only hides their German roots from the most ignorant of folks. British royals ... that's a crack up.