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Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
I get what you're saying. One state without equal voting power could be a possibility. If both sides find that at least OK, I doubt Israelis are going to lose much sleep being labelled an apartheid state. They are already labeled that. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
OK. As I said before it's obvious that the majority of Palestinians don't want Israel to exist. Israel naturally has a problem with that. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
You're being very naive. Previous peace activists were dealing with a different west bank. It's too late to dismantle all the west bank settlements. The majority on both sides know two state is over. It's a nice thing to talk about but it's too late. Of course there are liberal factions among Israeli Jews, but fewer and fewer numbers and you'll never see a majority of Israeli Jews voting for national suicide (one nation equal votes). If I had the answers that would be politically acceptable for both sides, I would say, but this situation is the opposite of simple. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
A resolution of the conflict is not any kind of priority for any recent Israeli government. As I said I think both two stqte and one state with voting equality are off the table. There is probably some kind of better than the status quo compromise scheme that is possible but I couldn't tell you the details. I understand why Palestinians are angry but as far as how things got to where they are now, it's objectively wrong that they didn't play an important role in that. Starting with the Arab world attacking after 1948. Imagine if the Arab world had accepted the reality of Israel in 1948 and decided to peacefully cooperate with Israel in the development of the region. Instead they screwed themselves. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Isn't that from Hamas (Gaza) specifically? I do think most Palestinian Arabs favor the end of the state of Israel. Some are extreme in what to do about all the Jews there as most Israeli Jews were born in Israel, and some more moderate. But there is no way ANY Israeli government, liberal or conservative, is going to go for any of that and global people should not expect any nation to commit suicide. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
If it was so simple, it would have hapenned already. I reckon you know perfectly well that a two state solution has become almost impossible because of all the Israeli settlements in the west bank, and one nation equal votes will never be accepted by Israel, as the foundation of Israel is indeed political Zionism, and that requires a majority Jewish nation state. I have no simple solution to propose. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
It's wrong in general but correct about factions of Palestinian Arabs. It's true that like almost all of the Arab world, it's very oppressive for gay people, they are murdered often by their own families. Israel of course is the only place in the Middle East where gay people aren't persecuted. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Well, there are different factions of Palestinian Arabs and they are not a monolith. You've got Palestinian Arabs who are Christian, Muslim, or nothing. They live in Gaza, the West bank, Lebanon, Syria. and the global diaspora. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
I call B.S. Zionism originated as a political liberation movement for the Jewish PEOPLE, religious and not religious. Persecution for thousands of years in the diaspora went after all Jewish PEOPLE, religious and not religious. Israel demonizers often falsely claim Jewish is just another religion. Nope. Jewish is an ETHNOreligious group. A very big difference. Nazism of course was obsessed with seeing Jews as a RACE. It's common to this day to conflate race and ethnicity from all groups, fascists or not. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
The answer starts with J and anyone denying that is full of it. -
What Movies or TV shows are you watching (2023)
Jingthing replied to CharlieH's topic in Entertainment
Fancy some Balzac? You won't regret it. The title is apt. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Quacks like duck. -
It's like that idiot governor from Florida who called it a terroritorial dispute.
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A lot. But what choice do they have against an effort by a genocidal imperialist to erase their country, language, culture, and people?
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Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Exactly You can find the exact same talking points all over the Nazi areas of the internet. They don't quit -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Again what date were you talking about before that there was no persecution? Interesting that you didn't answer that. As far as the origin of Zionism it's no secret the motivation was the experience of Jews in the diaspora for thousands of years. Waves of pogroms, mass executions, expulsions, inquisitions not to mention restrictions of movement, professions, etc. So of course antisemitism was the reason that political Zionists believed a Jewish nation state was the answer to finally have a safe haven against persecution. You can agree or not. It was a slow growing movement but obviously it succeeded in the founding of Israel. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Exactly Thorgal's rhetoric is classic Nazi apologist type stuff. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Something's very fishy about your post. What time exactly was there no persecution? https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/nuremberg-laws Two distinct laws passed in Nazi Germany in September 1935 are known collectively as the Nuremberg Laws: the Reich Citizenship Law and the Law for the Protection of German Blood and German Honor. These laws embodied many of the racial theories underpinning Nazi ideology. They would provide the legal framework for the systematic persecution of Jews in Germany. Adolf Hitler announced the Nuremberg Laws on September 15, 1935. Germany’s parliament (the Reichstag), then made up entirely of Nazi representatives, passed the laws. Antisemitism was of central importance to the Nazi Party, so Hitler had called parliament into a special session at the annual Nazi Party rally in Nuremberg, Germany. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Intentionally. Meant to inflame. Meant to suppress rational discussion of the conflict with people who would otherwise be very sympathetic to criticizing right wing policies of Israeli governments. In other words, totally unacceptable. -
You may not think you support Putin but by being a Kremlin talking point repeater, you are indeed supporting Putin. Own it.
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Yes he has genocidal intentions towards all of Ukraine. He wants: No Ukrainian language No Ukrainian culture No Ukrainian nation state No Ukrainian people (either become a Russian zombie or die) This is evil. War is justified in cases like this. For Ukraine, there is really no choice but to fight.
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Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Gee whiz. I wonder why Jews specifically have a problem with being called the same as Nazis. So difficult to imagine why that is. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
The topic isn't Russia. Don't act so dense that you don't understand the SPECIFIC inflammatory nature of accusing Israel of being Nazi equivalent. There is no way that you don't understand that. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
You're not fooling me. Accusing the one Jewish nation state in the world to be equivalent to Nazis is specifically designed to inflame Jews. That's why doing so fits the definition of antisemitism. You know that, but you persist. If you wanted a sincere discussion on issues around the conflict, you wouldn't do that. You clearly are not debating this in good faith. You're basically trolling. There is a lot of support in world Jewry for criticism of Israel. The majority of diaspora Jews are critical of the Israeli government being way too right wing, and sadly only a minority of Israel Jews but there are plenty in Israel as well. What percentage of Jews in the world would even want to have discussion with anyone like you pushing antisemitic Israel -- Nazi equivalency rhetoric? It's obvious to me. Well under one percent. -
Outrage over Abbas's antisemitic speech on Jews and Holocaust
Jingthing replied to Social Media's topic in World News
Total garbage! The most prominent feature of Nazism is the goal of exterminating every Jew (religious or not) on the planet. In Hitler's time the Jewish state didn't exist, but he had promised the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem to exterminate all the Jews in the region of Palestine as well. Just stop it, dude. Say fascist instead. I definitely see fascism in Israeli government. I don't see a Nazi government in Israel. Even if the Arabs took over and killed all the Jews in the region, they wouldn't be Nazis. Nazi is very specific. If you're talking genocide, every genocide except one in the history of the world (Putin currently has genocidal intentions towards Ukraine) was not Nazi. The holocaust was by the Nazis. Is this too difficult for you to comprehend? I can't believe that you don't get that your Nazi game is massively inflammatory and yes antisemitic. It's not necessary to make all of your critical points. But you clearly love flaming too much.