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23 minutes ago, Dustdevil said:

Fish do feel pain, but I eat meat, so I can't complain. On the other hand, I don't seek out the largest most amazing of any species I can find just so i can kill it for sport. Screw that.

I eat meat too.  But personally I'm not into torturing animals.  I went 'fishing' once at a park here and left feeling so sad.

I'd much prefer them enjoying a little celebratory cake than abusing children and women or fleecing gullible people caught up in religion.

I'd like to put a big hook through that guys cheek and drive around in my car for a couple hours having him run alongside.  Sick.

They need some booooiiiinnnngggg sound effects for the vid.

Tom 

 

That would mean 25 x 4 + 100 x 4 + 150x 9 =1.850 cals a day. 

I also count my calories.. but I got set meals that i know how much they are. Is it not hard to eat 150g of fat ? I mean usually fat is combined with carbs or protein. Just curious here.

Not usually that difficult at all! I like to use coconut oil, butter, olive oil. I also eat my fair share of avocados and use coconut cream as well. The green vegetables are a great vessels for the fat. I aim for between 1500 to 1800 calories.

The fact that they like to tie gay people to chairs and tip them off the tops of buildings makes me think that I would not be very welcomed in their loving arms.


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Does this machine qualify for the update, MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Late 2013), as I have had no updates showing as yet
Thanks
John

I believe you have to go into the Apple store, find it and download it. When you download it should say whether you have to pay or not, but I think it's free. It was free for me and mine is a 2014 Mac air.


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Though.. one good thing is (and bad just how you look at it) its quite hard to gain muscle for most people. You won't wake up looking like Arnold overnight its never that easy. 

Though I can really appreciate the discipline and effort that Arnold put into his physique, as well as how well he has been able to maintain things, that's absolutely not the body type that I would want. Michael Phelps on the other hand, now there is something that looks worthy of dreaming of. And no, I'm not going to start swimming 400 laps today, but if I had to choose between the two physiques, Michael's would certainly be the one that I would choose.

When I was young, I was really skinny, and then when I turned around at nine years old I ballooned up to a huge weight. I then lost all of that weight around puberty and became quite skinny again. Then around 25 years old I started adding on a little bit at a time. Then around 27 years old I was able to lose a lot again and became quite thin. But since then and now I had gained quite a bit over again. Mostly due to getting older and not reducing my food intake and probably not exercising as much as I should.

So I have been working out the last couple years and I am getting closer to my goal. I also realize that I need to be careful what I'm eating and to make sure that I move around enough. Also I have found that getting enough sleep is really important, especially backed up these days with the research that says not enough sleep increases the cortisol in your body which can keep you from losing weight.



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I am happy I am not you.. You must be eating tons of fat ?

100 grams of protein 400 cals cars low say 50 grams 200 cals... rest calories from fat ? (personally I think your either higher in proteins or high in carbs then you

Hey there

I take in less than 25 g of carbs a day. I meticulously log everything into my online food counter. I take about 80 to 100 g of protein and 120 to 150 g of fat per day. Sometimes a little less fat and a little more protein, but the carbs are always the same. Welcome to the keto diet!

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I'm enjoying it, like the update to Notes, Siri is fun but not amazing.  The tabs are cool, nice update to Message.

 

I was happily surprised that it gave me back about 20 gigs on my Mac Air.  Wasn't expecting that.  Mail seems to have had some tweaks, but not sure where exactly, just on some minor details.

 

I use the enhanced dictation a lot, doesn't seem like it was improved.  Wish the would roll on development in that program, I love it, such a time and finger saver.

 

Anyone else notice anything, like it or hate it or are just meh about it?  I did notice things were slow after install, but after restarting post installation everything was good.

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

 

Its a pipe dream Tom.. to think if you are low protein that you wont lose muscle you can be fat adapted all you want but go to low in protein and your at risk. Its real hard not to lose muscle when dieting. Its not logical but the body also protects the fat. If not we would always burn 100% fat.. just not the case. 

I guess I should say I'm not low protein, I'm just not high protein.  Also, you need to take into account how many carbs you are eating, and effects of hormones, insulin etc in the process. And if you eat too much protein you can get Gluconeogenesis, where the body converts excess protein into glucose which the body needs to take care of, kicking you out of ketosis.  

 

Whatever you are doing seems to be working for you :)  I am quite confident that for me 80-100 grams of protein is good.  I ams still in ketosis, I still feel strong when I exercise, and I recover quickly.  If I felt week or sore all the time I would think about upping my protein 15-20 grams at a time till that changed.

 

38 minutes ago, Strange said:

 

Yeah, I'm close to 200lbs though and around 15%. I get constipated as hell when I'm around 200g/day and its hard to eat that much chicken (I know I know there are more sources... Chicken is easy and I hate fish) so I supplement with ON Whey. 

 

Read research too and seems to make sense to consume for LBM, plus I can take a normal dump. 

Get some good Fiber supplement.  I bought some at the New Image place Central Rama 9 when I went to get some ketone testing strips (I wanted to try them, interesting).  It's called FibreMax and has inulin, psyllium, oat bran, and also some probiotics for gut health.  I haven't been so regular even though I eat lots of broccoli, cauliflower, green beans, lettuces and such.  Took a dose Friday night and another Saturday morning.  By Saturday night, well, without sounding gross, let's just say I had the most perfect bowel movement.  And then again this morning.  The Fiber was 1200 Baht but is enough to last for about two months.  Definitely something I will buy again.  

37 minutes ago, dontoearth said:

     Is there any scientific research with acceptable medical measurements in humans that shows we burn muscle when we diet?   The blood and urine samples of fasting patients does not show this and I am not aware of other studies.  The only muscle wasting I have seen is from youtube where some people fasted down to dangerous body weights.  The number there was under 4% body fat left on the body and at that point serious damage occurs.  The video did not explain why anyone would do this seemed to be nutty vegans in some remote village that celebrated fasting with a religious cult.  Anyway, that is not science!

What I've learned is if you are fat adapted, then your body will utilize your fat stores for energy when it needs it.  So what Don said, if you get really low on fat stores it will go to use the muscle.

2 minutes ago, Strange said:

 

Would you still go 1.5 grams of protein per kg regardless of a persons body fat? 

 

100 kg person with 30% body fat gets 1.5 grams per kg? 

 

I always went with 1 gram per pound of lean body mass, regardless of body fat percentage.

Yeah that's what I shoot for.  

2 minutes ago, robblok said:

You just have to keep your protein high like 1,5 gram per kg otherwise you WILL loose muscle. Plenty of studies done about that and ketose is no guarantee that it wont happen.  (I think high protein is not much of a problem if you go low carb given you you just cut out carbs and need to eat something besides fat)

For sure - I keep my macros 75% fat, and 25% protein....the carbs are only a few % usually.  I take in between 80-100 grams protein.  If I dip below that, especially after exercise, I can feel it.

2 hours ago, sharecropper said:

Errr, so the ban on re-enactments and identifying suspects is now being ignored? It lasted less time than the spineless determination to arrest the UFO Abbot for fraud.

 

 

That lasted as long as the ban on money making roadblocks.  They were told to stop them, which they did for less than a month, then they were all back again!

1 minute ago, robblok said:

 

Yes i understand the feeling.. i wanted to go as low as I good.. making myself look good. First its about health.. then its about how you want to look.

 

I know its not a race but we all want results, its hard when progress is hard to measure. But good on you and yes lifting helps to hold on to muscle.. maybe even building some muscle. But you do know that building muscle on a caloric deficit is usually not possible (unless your on testosterone or lifting again after years of not lifting (muscle memory) or when your an absolute beginner). 

 

 

Yeah I haven't really bulked up much after initial gains, but I am getting nicely toned.  I'm going for a 'swimmer body' more than a 'gym rat'  :)  I  love weights though.

55 minutes ago, dontoearth said:

   Thanks for posting the article.  It has a lot of new and up to date information.  I had no idea they had gotten the safety rate up so high with the surgery.  I realized I last checked on this 22 years ago.  At that time the complication and death rate was 3 in 100 and it was a rare last resort measure.  It looks like it is much safer and much more effective today.  

   There does seem to be some real evidence that something is going wrong in the stomach with bacteria.   This is a pretty recent discovery and the first discovery that seems to overcome set point.  Of course doctors believed stomach ulcers were caused by worry decades ago and it took a long time to get to the truth that the stomach ulcers are a virus so I am not surprised we know so little about this part of our body and how it functions.

     I do think it looks like a good choice for those that are morbidly obese.   I am hoping they come up with something else for those of us in the overweight category.  I am an old fashioned chicken and avoid surgery as much as I can.

     Thanks again for such a great article.  And might I mention that the page has many other resource articles which are also very enlightening for those that will go over and spend a little time reading!  I favor science over ignorance and superstition summed up with arrogant opinion and a few old wives tales.  I am talking you...portion control and exercise crowd!  

 

Amazing things happen when you go keto and get fat-burning adapted.  Your hormones re-regulate themselves and you actually start being able to know when you are hungry and not, and eating to satiety only.  Weight flies off, fat first.  Even when fasting, when fat adapted, you do not burn your muscle, you burn your own fat reserves.  The science is in folks!  Look at The Art and Science of Low Carb Living or Jason Fung's book on Ketogenic Diet.  The science they discuss is irrefutable. Just up to people to read up and learn.

On 9/12/2016 at 9:46 AM, robblok said:

Seems so logical that you put people with diabetic and people who are insulin resistant on a low carb diet. However many people don't want that, one of my friends has a friend who is diabetic and still drinks sugary drinks and does not like to go low carb. Many people just feel its their right to stuff their face with whatever food they want.

 

The doctors of course see that there is far more money to be made from operations and then many new consultations then for advising people to go low carb. In other countries (non US) people are get advice to go low carb. In my country they see it as the first option and operation as the last.  

It doesn't help that the ADA recommends a diet with somewhere between 250-300 carbs a day.  

I see about 9 people in the audience.

I realize it's an old topic, but I found a source - 
newimage.co.th/products/ketone-strips
This place is at Central Rama IX.  About 200 Baht for a box of 50, which is a great price.
Call 02-168-1300

Were they gambling?

45 minutes ago, inactiveposter said:

Not to detract/distract from the horrific results of these accidents, but who's doing their math? 365 days divided by 10 gives you the total 10-day periods in a year (36.5). Round it up to 37 and multiply by 15 and you get 555 deaths, not 700.


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Maybe they're are just counting the numbers of parts of bodies that are delivered to the morgue.

 

There's a middle school right by my house (grades 7-9, ages 11-14), so many kids ride MCs in to school.  It was never like that until about three years ago.  There are kids 13 and 14 coming in on bikes, probably 150 of them parked in front of the school.  And nobody stops them.

"Dr Adisak said that parents were responsible for death and injury of the young victims but he didn’t want to put all the blame on them. All those people who saw the underaged riding on the pillions of motorcycles or who ride the bikes and did nothing about it are to blame, he added."

 

That's idiotic.  It's the parents and then it's the police's responsibility to stop them.   Ain't mine!