thaibeachlovers

According to the text in the OP they are lap dancers, not strippers. Lap dancers wear scanty clothing but far as I know do not get naked. Mind you, I wouldn't want to see any in that photo naked. Also, I never saw a stripper in Thailand. Plenty of naked dancers, but no striptease as done in western countries.

I was once approached by a hooker at King's Cross Station in London. I wasn't interested as I was having holidays in LOS then, but I played along to find out how much it would cost. I can't give the amount as against forum rules to go into specifics, but when she told me it was XX quid for quickie it was all I could do not to laugh in her face.

Given you started the post with a reference to the UK it behooves you to be clear on what currency you were talking about. None of us are mind readers. In baht that sounds reasonable, given the price of booze in a gogo, and I'd say a lot of two week millionaires in LOS would spend that much a night, but only on holiday. Have to be wealthy to do it every night if living in LOS. There is no comparison between the girlfriend experience P4P in LOS and a 1/2 hour quickie with some western hooker.

A western woman I used to work with bragged to me about how she could go to a pub, get free drinks all night and walk out alone.

I know where you are coming from. I'd give anything to be able to live in LOS the rest of my life ( in the style I was used to- I'm not talking about existing in a 2,000 baht a month hovel, eating rice every meal and not ever having a nice lady to sleep with ).

You are comparing P4P in the UK with that in LOS? 5555555555555555 I don't know, and never knew anyone that could afford to spend 10,000 quid on a hooker, and I doubt they are common.

Yeah, just as well most western men don't know there is a better world out there or they'd all be in LOS. As for the guy who spent $1000 on a woman he wasn't engaged to- is he desperate or what? BTW, I doubt anyone forced him to spend that sort of money on her. Caveat emptor.

Yes, but in a different body. IMO the body is disposable, though the soul ( our consciousness ) carries on.

I believe that our bodies are just a biological transport mechanism, and the soul after death on this plane has no need of such.

Given that no living person knows what the other side ( heaven ) is like, I'd be boggled if anyone was able to describe it. IMO it's wishful thinking as how some would like heaven to be. I don't even know if I'll still be "me" after I pass over the great divide, or just go back into the pure consciousness from which, IMO, all life comes.

It means I spent too much time on TVF.

Given that the 4 books were written long after Jesus was crucified I'd not be surprised if some things that didn't happen were included and some things that did were omitted. I'm only interested in the aspects of faith in the New Testament, so it's pretty much irrelevant to me as to detail. I doubt we can compare the teachings of Jesus to the Roman Catholic Church, given how wealthy that religion is. Just one of the reasons I'm not religious.

You seem ill informed as to the origins of Christianity. Jesus didn't try to start a new religion. That was done by men that came after. It is based on his teachings which is why it's named after him.

Don't know what your point is that you quote me. The old testament wasn't written after Jesus lived and Jesus was a Jew. He didn't start Christianity- that was down to men who came after. As I'm not religious it's of no interest to me when a religion came into being or who "borrowed" what from whom and what was created. BTW, Muslims also believe in the same God as the Jews, but you didn't mention them.

I assume the Bible is the basis of Judaism/ Christianity religion, and as I'm not religious I regard it as only a history book of the Jews ( old Testament ) and a history book of the rise of Christianity as a religion ( new Testament ). Far as intelligent design is concerned, unless anyone can come up with some definitive, acceptable to all proof that God does not exist, it has to be accepted that God is possible. Given faith, it's not necessary to prove that God exists, and that's completely on topic ( -do-you-believe-in-god- ). As for the why, I have posted my actual beliefs as to why I believe many times before, I won't be repeating them now. Given my belief is about faith, I have no problem accepting that God exists ( but not as most anti God posters on here claim God to be ).

The old testament was written by people that probably had no concept of the universe ( thought the sun went around the earth etc ). I doubt they could conceive of the creator unless like a human. Have you considered that evolution was designed, rather than some sort of accidental occurrence?

Indeed. Not for nothing did they warn against greed millennia ago. Far as I'm concerned the society in which I live is consumed by greed and appearances, and has consigned any that are not wealthy to oblivion. IMO it's not going to end well for anyone. However, when the brown stuff hits the rotating blades I'm sure a lot of those that don't believe will discover religion.

Did you miss the bit where I said "I DON"T CARE if others believe or not in God"? It's not up to me to convince anyone. I'm only learning from those posters that contribute something worth consideration, and passing on my own opinion/ experiences.

God is commonly described as the force that created the universe with it's uncountable trillions of stars, planets etc, so why ascribe human conditions to God? No human is capable of even creating something that has "life", let alone a solar system, so why does anyone think God is like humans? Hmmmm, I may yet start posting on this thread again, though I shall attempt to ignore the obvious trolls or repeat what I've posted many many times before. If anyone cares about my opinions they are welcome to read all my 1000 + posts.

One would probably have to go back a few hundred pages to find a poster that is telling you to believe anything. The conversation moved on from that dogmatic attitude long ago, but somehow it seems that some posters are still beating the same old drum. I said it before, but personally I don't care if anyone believes in God or not, and I came on this thread long ago to learn and contribute my point of view, but not to convince anyone that I have the "correct" opinion, as it's obvious that none of us know everything about the full situation, though some of us are prepared to educate themselves to try and understand it as much as is possible. If anyone is honest, they won't claim that science actually has proof of anything to do with faith, as faith is above and beyond science.

I guess you didn't actually read all the 14,195 posts or you would have seen plenty of "evidence" that there is more to life and the universe than can be explained by mere chance or a cosmic accident. However, coming to this thread with a preset opinion is not conducive to exploring the possibility that science doesn't have all the answers. Reading the posts since this thread resurrected itself it's clear to me that many currently posting haven't a clue as to what had been posted over the past years as they are saying the same things as were said at the beginning. While everyone has the right to post whatever they like within the rules, don't expect me to repeat what I said many, many times before to refute their opinion. However, I will be following the thread in case something new comes up to engage my interest in responding. Have a nice day.

I haven't gone anywhere, as I still look in on TVF or whatever it's called now, but I just got tired of the abuse from the usual suspects, so don't post much anymore. I'll post if it's something non controversial ( so probably nothing on the resurrected World News ) that seems worthy of a comment. In this case I thought it worth mentioning that some advance notice would have been helpful. So, sorry if you thought I was back in previous posting mode as it's unlikely to happen.

Thanks. I tried to thank you a while ago, but my internet is intermittent for reasons beyond my control and it apparently didn't post before I lost the internet.

Thanks. I guess my 44 thousand plus posts qualifies me to go there.

Found the forum support desk right down the bottom where I never look, but I was trying to find "the lounge" and had no luck with that.