Sharp tax hike on alcohol and tobacco effective immediately

[Anythingleft?]

For the government to ratify the increase and say that there will be a "moderate increase and the retail prices would not be significantly increased" one can only assume there are a lot of operators out there that clearly do not understand how the tax is being imposed.
There could be a new thread with the most outrageous prices seen and quoted in the coming days until this becomes clearer...

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[xylophone]

18 minutes ago, madmitch said:

As for fruit wines, I would assume that Siam Winery, owned by the Red Bull family, I believe, and the importers of Montclair, might not want to lose their market share! What is stupid is that despite having fruit juice added, the ABV is no different to pure wine!

Will protect and increase their market share as will be cheaper esp when compared to imported wine (non fruit juice added).

 

See my post on another thread............

 

The details are as following: The tax per bottle of wine priced above Bt1,000 will be Bt110 upwards, depending on the price. The tax on locally made wine will decrease by Bt25 per bottle

 

Ah yes.........have to ensure that the extremely wealthy and influential/well connected owner of a certain winery here can benefit from increased sales. After all got to keep his son on the run and buy him a new Ferrari.

[bannork]

15 minutes ago, jody davis said:

I am unsure where she came up with the new pricing. This is just what she sent me by Line.

 

Ask her about the proposed increase in licence fee for retailers to sell alcohol from less than 2,000 baht per annum to 50,000 baht. Is she going to still sell booze or is that another scare story well off the mark?

[jody davis]

Just like every business in Thailand that charges the same for a product that every other does we charged the same as our competitors. Remember, we have to buy from a distributor and mark up from their price.

[Kwasaki]

32 pages 

1 minute ago, Yann55 said:

32 pages of comments for an article about a tax hike on alcohol !!! I guess that says it all about the expat situation here

Reminds me of good laugh post once.  

 

A expat guy was raving on about Thailand and ended with if your drinking beer at 9 am in the morning it's time to go home.

 

The following post was " is 9.15 am OK.  

[puchooay]

53 minutes ago, jody davis said:

She Lined me an article from a Thai publication, BTS.

Say goodbye to your customers. They will go to the minimart down the road that is selling at 60 baht.

I just went to buy a box of Chang at our local wholesalers. She sold to me today for the existing price (568). She told me that tomorrow it will be 592.

[bert bloggs]

As nether the wife and i smoke and only drink about i beer a week , its not a problem 

[khunano]

51 minutes ago, jody davis said:

I am unsure where she came up with the new pricing. This is just what she sent me by Line.

 

Perhaps you should get a new manager for that minimart with better math skills....

[mauGR1]

All those drunk people make me so sad, that i must really have a drink

[Blinky62]

Half a Baht more for a can of beer----yer the country's finished...no tourist will stand for that. It's also ruined our life here so we might as well all go home...
Talk about headless chickens--how do you guys handle actual real life situations....
 
 
** My wife left me because of my insecurities. No wait, she's back. She just went to make a cup of tea.............
 

Most people on this site need to go back to the mother country every now and again for a reality check .


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[1337markus]

The increase of tax on alcohol is suppose to help Thais health is what they say. <deleted> does this mean then The tax on locally made wine will decrease by Bt25 per bottle.

[habanero]

1 hour ago, AGareth2 said:

good luck with the business

Chang up over 100 percent?

[uffe123]

Amazing thailand

Edited September 17, 2017 by uffe123

[Mickmouse1]

With immediate effect...lol....money hungry but they know bloody foreigners will pay...????

I wonder if happy ending massage cost will now go up 2????

[Cranky]

22 hours ago, prakhonchai nick said:

Chances are that you would have considerably more money to start with in the UK than here in Thailand. And your girlfriend would make considerably more than 300bt/day, should she work!

Bottle of Beck's in Sainsbury's UK - 28 baht (case of 20).  Excellent wine; a tenner. Fact is, it is cheaper to live in the UK if you like a beer, a nice wine and a fridge full of quality cheese.  Like-for-like day-today living, the UK is cheaper than here (reformed smoker or that might tip the balance at a tenner a pack) The difference is, you CAN live really cheap here if you wish to.  But, once I chuck in the ridiculous cost of private education and the idiotic cost of a decent motor.. f it, I'm off.

[newatthis]

1 hour ago, jody davis said:

We own a Minimart and this will be some of the new prices as per my wife.                   Beer and cigarettes up
Leo 58 now up to 110฿
 Chang 57 now up to 118฿                                                                                                                          

I hope she's not selling her old stock at this new price.

[NamH2O]

Just been in my local 7/11 Large Leo 3 pack 168 Baht, yesterday 158 Baht.I think jody davis wife may need to recalculate her selling price.

Edited September 17, 2017 by NamH2O
Mistake

[bristolgeoff]

you know what people will be bringing in to thailand now.if expensive the black market for wine and cigs will rocket

[HHTel]

18 minutes ago, newatthis said:

I hope she's not selling her old stock at this new price.

Or even new stock!

[SymS]

I can't believe how they managed to confuse everybody with those new taxes so badly. Poor communication.
Some say it's about 2 Baht extra per large bottle of beer, and others sell the same bottle for over 100 Baht...

Edited September 17, 2017 by SymS

[kellio]

On 9/16/2017 at 11:13 AM, maeab101 said:

Maybe this will help some people to stop drinking.

This regime has already helped stop them from eating by making changes which have caused them to lose jobs.

Would you like to help them to stop breathing as well?

[holy cow cm]

2 hours ago, Anythingleft? said:

How did she come to these price conclusions?
I understood a bottle of beer was to be upped by 2.66 Baht in tax so where does the other 40+ baht come from?
Have I missunderstood the other postings, if so I am a mile off....

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Besides the tax increase the mom and pop shops supposedly will take a hard extreme hit on license to sell. So the mom and pops shops have to recoup the increase. This is more than an increase but a full out assault and slap at Thailand and the Thai people who struggle to survive. The elite are hypocrites and racist against foreigners and their own people. So what else is new? Nothing, business and strangle hold for the military government as usual.

[fullcave]

Imported wine is the most sinful because nanny with a gun says so.   

[maeab101]

23 minutes ago, kellio said:

This regime has already helped stop them from eating by making changes which have caused them to lose jobs.

Would you like to help them to stop breathing as well?

At least the did not rob the country blind. Like thaksin and his daughter "lucky monky"  did.  LOL.

Edited September 17, 2017 by maeab101

[LatPhrao]

1 hour ago, 1337markus said:

The increase of tax on alcohol is suppose to help Thais health is what they say. <deleted> does this mean then The tax on locally made wine will decrease by Bt25 per bottle.

The decrease in tax on "locally" made wine vs the increase on imported wine shows Thailand believes they have a domestic wine category of significance to protect.  While the tax break for locally made products isn't unusual in this country, the definition of "locally" made wine is.  There are two or three large Thai companies that import wine in bulk from Europe or South America, finish the wine in Thailand and bottle it under their label.  Mar y Sol by Siam Winery is a good example.  In the rest of the world these wines would still have to be labeled for their Country of Origin (not Thailand). It's unclear if Thailand govt considers these wines to fall into the "locally" made or not.  It would be of big financial advantage to the large Thai companies if these negotiant wines suddenly become locally made.    It will be interesting to see if the price of Mar y Sol wines (299 thb) and similar wine prices go up or down or just stay the same (wholesaler taking the margin).   For traditional bottled wines, honestly labelled and imported into Thailand we'll be getting the shaft with higher value wines all the moreso.  Sticking it to the foreigner and Thais who develop an interest in quality wines because they can and probably encouraged by the owners (Red Bull, Singha, etc) of domestic Thai wine businesses.

[rott]

16 hours ago, B4Jazz said:

Why is the duty increase so much less on cans? 

 

 

Good question. Doubt if anyone has an answert though. Possibly the least logical part of an illogical act.

[maeab101]

7 minutes ago, LatPhrao said:

The decrease in tax on "locally" made wine vs the increase on imported wine shows Thailand believes they have a domestic wine category of significance to protect.  While the tax break for locally made products isn't unusual in this country, the definition of "locally" made wine is.  There are two or three large Thai companies that import wine in bulk from Europe or South America, finish the wine in Thailand and bottle it under their label.  Mar y Sol by Siam Winery is a good example.  In the rest of the world these wines would still have to be labeled for their Country of Origin (not Thailand). It's unclear if Thailand govt considers these wines to fall into the "locally" made or not.  It would be of big financial advantage to the large Thai companies if these negotiant wines suddenly become locally made.    It will be interesting to see if the price of Mar y Sol wines (299 thb) and similar wine prices go up or down or just stay the same (wholesaler taking the margin).   For traditional bottled wines, honestly labelled and imported into Thailand we'll be getting the shaft with higher value wines all the moreso.  Sticking it to the foreigner and Thais who develop an interest in quality wines because they can and probably encouraged by the owners (Red Bull, Singha, etc) of domestic Thai wine businesses.

If this stops one person from drinking its worth it.

[LennyW]

New list from 7/11, note the prices for Leo etc, Single big bottle 56, two pack 110 and three pack 164.bottle 

 

Edited September 17, 2017 by LennyW

[sawadeeken]

12 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

14 hours ago, sawadeeken said:

Even 'farangs' know a 'cheap charlie' when we see one............. 

A jewish friend of mine a few years back (not any longer) used to go with me for drinks and 'cop a feel' of a few ladies....... He would carry a bottle of drinking water in his pocket and upon entering the bar put it on the table.......... When asked what he wanted to drink.... He said..... I have my water, thanks...... and he never bought a drink (and certainly no lady drinks)........... But he would grab a lady and get a 'free' feel every chance he got...... A few days of that was enough for me........ LOL........

If you can't pay the bus fare...... Walk...........

These Thai girls with their lovely bodies, are not here offering  'free rides'....... They come from poor families...... Otherwise they would be in some 'University' and 'YOU' would never meet her.......

Have the graciousness you help them on occasions....... It is not an easy job they have........ There are a few 'sharks' out there...... sure...... but if your eyes are open you will see them...... But even with these 'sharks' more of the proceeds make it to the poor than you find in your home country charities (whose CEO and excutives bleed off the top 90%)........

Are there any 'charitable farangs' here or are they all out to squeeze all the baht out of a 20 baht bill as they can.........

As a poster in another thread said.............. "If the shoe fits.... wear it".............

you should know that you sound like a bar owner….understandable.

 

I am just a 'almost Expat', half time here and half in the US (30 years)...... Never owned but drank a lot in them and I have seen so many 'cheap Charlies' who same as you won't buy lady drinks but like any benefits they can sneak from the girls........  But I can agree with bar owners and 'working girls' about the 'cheap Charlies'

If you don't pay the bus fare you ain't gonna ride the bus........... LOL...........

[abrahamzvi]

17 hours ago, The manic said:

No it is not. Good news for Muslims and puritans maybe.

I am neither a Muslim nor a puritan. I do enjoy a glass of wine and/or some Cognac from time time. However, I do think the tax increases are correct. There is no need, i.e. it is not essential, to smoke or drink alcohol. If we wish to do so, we have to pay and let us hope that the additional tax collected will be used to make essentials(foods, medicines and the like) cheaper. Let's take the Scandinavian countries as an example. Luxuries, particularly damaging luxuries like cigarettes and alcohol, are extremely expensive (tax) and essentials like bread, eggs etc, are cheap. This in my view, is a socially correct policy.