Theresa May refuses to say if she would vote for Brexit in fresh poll

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Theresa May refuses to say if she would vote for Brexit in fresh poll

Prime minister repeatedly avoids question during radio phone-in where she struggles to give clear answers on Brexit issues

Rowena Mason Deputy political editor and Daniel Boffey in Brussels

 

Theresa May has refused to say if she would vote for Brexit if another referendum were held today, saying instead she would have to “weigh up the evidence” before deciding what to do in the current situation.

 

The prime minister, who voted to remain in the EU in last year’s poll, struggled to give clear answers on Brexit issues during an LBC radio phone-in on Tuesday, and admitted there was no plan for what would happen to EU citizens living in the UK if no deal was agreed with Brussels.

 

May initially said she would not deal with hypothetical questions, but when repeatedly pressed by the presenter, Iain Dale, on how she would vote if there was a fresh referendum, she gave a series of long responses to avoid answering the yes/no question.

 

Full story: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/oct/10/theresa-may-refuses-to-say-if-she-would-vote-for-brexit-in-fresh-poll

 

-- The Guardian 2017-10-11

[roquefort]

A politician refusing to give a clear answer..............this is hardly news.

[Grouse]

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[boomerangutang]

She would vote against Brexit, as would most reasonable people.  She knows it's a political minefield to declare that now.   

[John1012]

Time to replace this cretin May with a genuine British patriot, one that will adhere to the democratic will of the British voter and NOT appease the barbaric cult of Islam, a person who will be dedicated to supporting and improving the existing British democratic way of life , equality of sexes, freedom of expression over all facets of our society ,(unless deliberately libellous or slanderous untruths), regardless of whom it offends.

[John1012]

2 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

She would vote against Brexit, as would most reasonable people.  She knows it's a political minefield to declare that now.   

I fall into the group of unreasonable people then. I voted for Brexit to regain the independent British nation, free from the socialistic autocracy of the EU, where British people decide, through democratic means, their own future . The British do not suffer dictatorial rule very well, and they soundly rejected  it at the first opportunity. As for May, she is an incompetent ditherer, closet remainer and  Islamic appeaser and should never have been elected leader of the Tory party.

[brewsterbudgen]

No right-minded person could possibly still believe Brexit will be good for the UK, even Theresa May. The writing is on the wall and she knows it.

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[citybiker]

No right-minded person could possibly still believe Brexit will be good for the UK, even Theresa May. The writing is on the wall and she knows it.

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That’ll be 17 million right minded people then?

People are of course entitled to their opinion, however it’s too early to know the post Brexit forecast, the point is the U.K. has now the ‘opportunity’.

Europe will continue to remain to our neighbour, in trade etc simply not a political alliance to suit the EU.


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British PM May refuses to say how she would vote in another Brexit referendum

 

Britain's Prime Minister, Theresa May, hosts a discussion around the cabinet table on the findings of the Race Disparity Unit, in 10 Downing Street, central London, Britain October 10, 2017. REUTERS/Daniel Leal-Olivas/Pool

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Theresa May has declined to say whether she would vote for Brexit if there was another referendum.

 

May backed staying in the European Union in the June 2016 Brexit referendum but took a low-key role in the campaign. She won the top job after David Cameron, who had also campaigned to remain, resigned in the chaos following the shock result of the vote.

 

Asked if she had changed her mind since then, she said she did not answer hypothetical questions and said her job was now to deliver what the people had voted for.

 

"I voted remain for good reasons at the time, but circumstances move on and I think the important thing now is that I think we should all be focused on delivering Brexit and delivering the best deal," she said on an interview on LBC radio on Tuesday.

 

Pressed on whether she would now vote leave, she said she would look at everything and come to a judgment, but stressed that there would not be another referendum.

 

(Reporting by Alistair Smout; editing by Guy Faulconbridge)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-10-11

[roquefort]

25 minutes ago, John1012 said:

I fall into the group of unreasonable people then. I voted for Brexit to regain the independent British nation, free from the socialistic autocracy of the EU, where British people decide, through democratic means, their own future . The British do not suffer dictatorial rule very well, and they soundly rejected  it at the first opportunity. As for May, she is an incompetent ditherer, closet remainer and  Islamic appeaser and should never have been elected leader of the Tory party.

As another unreasonable person, I agree with your opinion of May. Unfortunately, none of the alternatives are very appealing. At a time of great instability in the world, the UK is saddled with the most mediocre bunch of political leaders (on all sides) since WWII.

[Baerboxer]

31 minutes ago, John1012 said:

I fall into the group of unreasonable people then. I voted for Brexit to regain the independent British nation, free from the socialistic autocracy of the EU, where British people decide, through democratic means, their own future . The British do not suffer dictatorial rule very well, and they soundly rejected  it at the first opportunity. As for May, she is an incompetent ditherer, closet remainer and  Islamic appeaser and should never have been elected leader of the Tory party.

 

So, as your such a democrat, you'd have no problems should another referendum be held and the electorate decided to reverse the decision to leave the EU?

[Baerboxer]

To be fair, why should she tell anyone how she personally votes?

 

The point of holding secret ballots is, well they're secret!

 

 

[citybiker]

To be fair, why should she tell anyone how she personally votes?
 
The point of holding secret ballots is, well they're secret!
 
 

Exactly, how & why people vote is between them and voting card.

The media’s staunch unhealthy obsession of personal political viewpoints is becoming increasingly tiresome.

Must be a quiet news day for LBC.


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[nontabury]

42 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So, as your such a democrat, you'd have no problems should another referendum be held and the electorate decided to reverse the decision to leave the EU?

And then another referendum,another referendum,another referendum. Until we get a decision acceptable to you. Very democratic.

Edited October 11, 2017 by nontabury

[nontabury]

I just don’t understand,why T.May who supported the remain camp, is somehow expected to follow the wish of the majority who voted to Leave.

 

[Sydebolle]

Perfect answer; nobody would care about Theresa May's vote if she would not be the prime minister hence it's nobody's business. As prime minister she executes an order by the legislative, the voters, and is not there to comment on the voters decision.

Should she, for whatever reason, not be able/willing to execute the instruction then she can step down - as done so by David Cameron. If he would have kept his mouth shut he might still be prime minister. 

[johnnyonesock]

[rocketman777]

The women is a total disgrace. She campaigned to stay, she voted to stay, but then she accepts the Tory leadership as Prime  Minister to lead the UK in its exit. A total conflict of interest.

She should have followed Cameron who did the one decent thing in his political career and that was to resign!

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[John1012]

57 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

So, as your such a democrat, you'd have no problems should another referendum be held and the electorate decided to reverse the decision to leave the EU?

Why should there be another referendum? The result of the referendum was perfectly clear and the question on the ballot paper was very simple. The instruction to the government was to leave the EU. What is it that people do not understand, those that wanted to remain lost, just like Hilary Clinton. So far we have people in power who are doing everything they can to delay the exit from Europe and confuse and misinform the electorate. We have seen from the utterances that have emanated from the EU that they have absolutely no respect for the decision of the British people, they are delaying and demeaning the democratic decision of the British voter.. much like the Democrats and some Replublicans in the American congress.

 

[dunroaming]

1 hour ago, citybiker said:

Europe will continue to remain to our neighbour, in trade etc simply not a political alliance to suit the EU.

That would be the goal but to get there deals have to be agreed by both sides.  At the moment that looks a very long way away from that.

 

I agree that May should go but to be replaced by who?  The two joke figures Johnson and JRM would be a total disaster and make Britain even more of a laughing stock.  So we are left staggering along in no apparent direction.

 

As for May not answering the "who would you vote for now" question.  Well of course she isn't going to answer that and leave herself open to even more criticism.  As Prime Minister she has to try to see Brexit through and her constant  empty rhetoric on that doesn't allow her to be honest about what she really thinks.

Edited October 11, 2017 by dunroaming

[John1012]

26 minutes ago, nontabury said:

I just don’t understand,why T.May who supported the remain camp, is somehow expected to follow the wish of the majority who voted to Leave.

 

She is in the employ of the British people, if she does not wish to execute her employers will, then she should resign. But then she is a political nonentity who has managed to crawl her way to the top and does not want to be honest. If she cannot openly say that she supports the will of the British electorate then she should go.

 

[terryw]

I get bored with so called journalists asking Gotcha questions. It is no secret tha May voted Remain and probably would do so again.

 

What is important is that she accepts the decision of the Referendum and unlike the Remoaners so has done this.

 

I believe that in the next couple of years, assuming she survives as PM, she will lead the UK out of the EU.

[citybiker]

That would be the goal but to get there deals have to be agreed by both sides.  At the moment that looks a very long way away from that.
 
I agree that May should go but to be replaced by who?  The two joke figures Johnson and JRM would be a total disaster and make Britain even more of a laughing stock.  So we are left staggering along in no apparent direction.
 
As for May not answering the "who would you vote for now" question.  Well of course she isn't going to answer that and leave herself open to even more criticism.  As Prime Minister she has to try to see Brexit through and her constant  empty rhetoric on that doesn't allow her to be honest about what she really thinks.

If & when May goes Davis was in the other option, personally I'd like JRM but he's not everyone's choice & definitely not Boris.



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[dunroaming]

14 minutes ago, citybiker said:

If & when May goes Davis was in the other option, personally I'd like JRM but he's not everyone's choice & definitely not Boris.



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I think the job is way too much for Davis.  I do understand some of the appeal of JRM and I enjoy his appearances on HIGNFY.  However he is a dinosaur and better suited to the dithering Tory toff role that he plays so well on that programme.  There is an enormous void when it comes to electable politicians at the moment and finding someone to properly drive the bus is very hard to find.

[boomerangutang]

 

56 minutes ago, rocketman777 said:

The women is a total disgrace. She campaigned to stay, she voted to stay, but then she accepts the Tory leadership as Prime  Minister to lead the UK in its exit. A total conflict of interest.  She should have followed Cameron who did the one decent thing in his political career and that was to resign!

Ms May is showing maturity by pursuing the implementing of the wishes of a majority of the people she governs, rather than pushing her own personal agenda.

 

51 minutes ago, John1012 said:

Why should there be another referendum? The result of the referendum was perfectly clear and the question on the ballot paper was very simple. The instruction to the government was to leave the EU. What is it that people do not understand, those that wanted to remain lost, just like Hilary Clinton. So far we have people in power who are doing everything they can to delay the exit from Europe and confuse and misinform the electorate. We have seen from the utterances that have emanated from the EU that they have absolutely no respect for the decision of the British people, they are delaying and demeaning the democratic decision of the British voter.. much like the Democrats and some Replublicans in the American congress.

                   Interesting that you make a comparison to HRC and the US election which took place a few months after the Brexit vote.  Was there Russian interference with the Brexit campaign?  How do you know for sure, either way?   The Russians are pissed at Europeans, and a weakened EU (without UK) is preferable for the Russians.   They're v. good at influencing mindsets, usually by using social media, as proved by the US imbroglio.  They're so good at it, that the Brits may not know whether it happened.   

 

                   Generally, city dwellers in UK voted to stay, whereas rural folks generally voted to leave.  City dwellers are generally better apprised of current events than country folks.  It's similar to the equation of the US election: Voters outside big cities were more easily manipulated by Russian fake news, than city folks.   Rednecks were very easily manipulated.  So much so, that they still won't admit it happened.   Were most Brexit voters leaning to the redneck (less informed) end of the political spectrum?  If so, it shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

 

[dunroaming]

27 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

 Generally, city dwellers in UK voted to stay, whereas rural folks generally voted to leave.  City dwellers are generally better apprised of current events than country folks.  It's similar to the equation of the US election: Voters outside big cities were more easily manipulated by Russian fake news, than city folks.   Rednecks were very easily manipulated.  So much so, that they still won't admit it happened.   Were most Brexit voters leaning to the redneck (less informed) end of the political spectrum?  If so, it shouldn't surprise anyone.

I am usually on the same page with you but I must disagree on your comparison of Brexit voters with the American red-neck voters.  It certainly is true that the larger city dwellers were more inclined to vote remain than their country counterparts.  I think that is due to most city dwellers being involved with businesses that are influenced or reliant on the international markets.  Either as employees or actually running a business.  In the countryside you are more likely to be influenced by local matters and the local community.  Add to that many people retire to the country and their mindset is often different then.  The profile of voters did indicate that more older people voted leave whereas the young didn't get out there and vote at all.

 

I also think you are right that the American redneck communities are easily manipulated but the Brits shouldn't be tarred with that brush.

[nauseus]

43 minutes ago, boomerangutang said:

 

Ms May is showing maturity by pursuing the implementing of the wishes of a majority of the people she governs, rather than pushing her own personal agenda.

 

                   Interesting that you make a comparison to HRC and the US election which took place a few months after the Brexit vote.  Was there Russian interference with the Brexit campaign?  How do you know for sure, either way?   The Russians are pissed at Europeans, and a weakened EU (without UK) is preferable for the Russians.   They're v. good at influencing mindsets, usually by using social media, as proved by the US imbroglio.  They're so good at it, that the Brits may not know whether it happened.   

 

                   Generally, city dwellers in UK voted to stay, whereas rural folks generally voted to leave.  City dwellers are generally better apprised of current events than country folks.  It's similar to the equation of the US election: Voters outside big cities were more easily manipulated by Russian fake news, than city folks.   Rednecks were very easily manipulated.  So much so, that they still won't admit it happened.   Were most Brexit voters leaning to the redneck (less informed) end of the political spectrum?  If so, it shouldn't surprise anyone.

 

 

The smear argument against the country bumpkins, from a highly educated city slicker, no doubt!  

[citybiker]

I think the job is way too much for Davis.  I do understand some of the appeal of JRM and I enjoy his appearances on HIGNFY.  However he is a dinosaur and better suited to the dithering Tory toff role that he plays so well on that programme.  There is an enormous void when it comes to electable politicians at the moment and finding someone to properly drive the bus is very hard to find.

You have a fair and valid point reference electable politicians, which i find increasingly disappointing for politics of the 21st century.

I know this may sound hypocritical but anyone descent may just not want the conditions applied to the job.


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[brewsterbudgen]

Why should there be another referendum? The result of the referendum was perfectly clear and the question on the ballot paper was very simple. The instruction to the government was to leave the EU. What is it that people do not understand, those that wanted to remain lost, just like Hilary Clinton. So far we have people in power who are doing everything they can to delay the exit from Europe and confuse and misinform the electorate. We have seen from the utterances that have emanated from the EU that they have absolutely no respect for the decision of the British people, they are delaying and demeaning the democratic decision of the British voter.. much like the Democrats and some Replublicans in the American congress.
 

So you didn't have a problem having a 2nd referendum after the one in 1975? Hmmm, some inconsistency there.



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[Grouse]

1 hour ago, dunroaming said:

I am usually on the same page with you but I must disagree on your comparison of Brexit voters with the American red-neck voters.  It certainly is true that the larger city dwellers were more inclined to vote remain than their country counterparts.  I think that is due to most city dwellers being involved with businesses that are influenced or reliant on the international markets.  Either as employees or actually running a business.  In the countryside you are more likely to be influenced by local matters and the local community.  Add to that many people retire to the country and their mindset is often different then.  The profile of voters did indicate that more older people voted leave whereas the young didn't get out there and vote at all.

 

I also think you are right that the American redneck communities are easily manipulated but the Brits shouldn't be tarred with that brush.

I notice you fail to mention that the clearest correlation was between being pro Brexit and having low tertiary educational achievement. What's a red neck?