Visitation rights Thailand

[lcosini]

My ex girlfriend and I had a baby, but she decided to raise him alone and went off to her parents. They, being rich and powerful (or rather spiteful),  refused to allow me to see or visit my child. What legal recourse or rights do I have? Especially on Visitation rights?

[happylarry]

You can get rights but only by taking them to court which obviously will cost money. If your name is on the birth certificate and if she agrees in court that you are the father then the court will probably have enough to make their decision however if the mother does not agree that you are the father then the court can order DNA tests as proof.

Of course you do realise that by going this route then you will probably end up paying maintenance for a long time.

 

Without going to court even if your name is on the birth certificate you basically have no rights whatsoever in Thailand.

HL

[FritsSikkink]

Have  a look here first as you have no rights at the moment:

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1003063-legitimizing-a-child-through-the-thai-courts/

[TSF]

Forget everything you know about your rights back in your foreign homeland. Here you're like an alien in another galaxy. Everything is stacked in the Thais favor and stacked against you. 

[Get Real]

3 hours ago, TSF said:

Forget everything you know about your rights back in your foreign homeland. Here you're like an alien in another galaxy. Everything is stacked in the Thais favor and stacked against you. 

Another bitter person in Thailand, I can read.
Wouldn´t it be better to post something useful instead of bla, bla, bla?

[MaeJoMTB]

4 hours ago, TSF said:

Forget everything you know about your rights back in your foreign homeland. Here you're like an alien in another galaxy. Everything is stacked in the Thais favor and stacked against you. 

I couldn't get visitation rights for my kids in the UK.

I think you mean 'everything is stacked against men', if the woman is determined enough.

 

Back to OP,

In Thailand if not married to mom, you have NO rights, without mom's co-operation.

Walk away, make more kids (it's what I did).

Edited October 24, 2017 by MaeJoMTB

[Get Real]

57 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I couldn't get visitation rights for my kids in the UK.

I think you mean 'everything is stacked against men', if the woman is determined enough.

 

Back to OP,

In Thailand if not married to mom, you have NO rights, without mom's co-operation.

Walk away, make more kids (it's what I did).

You seem like a real winner, for the one that catches you. I mean, with all that responsibility that comes with the last sentence in your post. 

[MaeJoMTB]

52 minutes ago, Get Real said:

You seem like a real winner, for the one that catches you. I mean, with all that responsibility that comes with the last sentence in your post. 

Sometimes in life, you just gotta learn to walk away, or you'll go mad.

[HooHaa]

2 hours ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I couldn't get visitation rights for my kids in the UK.

I think you mean 'everything is stacked against men', if the woman is determined enough.

 

Back to OP,

In Thailand if not married to mom, you have NO rights, without mom's co-operation.

Walk away, make more kids (it's what I did).

nice to know who we are dealing with. 

on the other hand some of could not walk away from our children.

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎24‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 6:14 PM, MaeJoMTB said:

Sometimes in life, you just gotta learn to walk away, or you'll go mad.

No, you have to take care of your kids, they are more important than you.

[lcosini]

Listen, I just want to see the baby - that's all.

And perhaps help out if needed.

That's what she asked for in the beginning anyway - for me to pay for the childbirth (all medical & hospital costs), buy her a condo to raise the child in, and financial support for the first year.

Of course I agreed - then after 2 months, she said she's not really happy with the whole situation - that it's OK if I wanted to opt out. I said I'll keep to my promise. But then she just went away and never replied to my emails or phone calls again.

I don't understand her behavior except maybe she's psychologically ill, or that what I've offered is not sufficient or great enough for her taste or way of life. Other than that, maybe she has found someone else to take care of her - but I don't really think so as she isn't a bar-girl with many men friends. I only met her where she used to work in a shopping mall. She was married once and did not seem too eager to have another.

What do you think? What's with her? How can I get through to her? Any suggestions or wisdom?

[FritsSikkink]

On ‎31‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 10:02 AM, lcosini said:

Listen, I just want to see the baby - that's all.

And perhaps help out if needed.

That's what she asked for in the beginning anyway - for me to pay for the childbirth (all medical & hospital costs), buy her a condo to raise the child in, and financial support for the first year.

Of course I agreed - then after 2 months, she said she's not really happy with the whole situation - that it's OK if I wanted to opt out. I said I'll keep to my promise. But then she just went away and never replied to my emails or phone calls again.

I don't understand her behavior except maybe she's psychologically ill, or that what I've offered is not sufficient or great enough for her taste or way of life. Other than that, maybe she has found someone else to take care of her - but I don't really think so as she isn't a bar-girl with many men friends. I only met her where she used to work in a shopping mall. She was married once and did not seem too eager to have another.

What do you think? What's with her? How can I get through to her? Any suggestions or wisdom?

You are not married with her, so for Thai law you aren't recognized as the father. you need to go to court for that. If she doesn't want you in her life and she has rich parents to protect her, you have no chance at all.

[lcosini]

Here's where your assumptions are wrong.
She walked away from everything - the hospital expenses, her living expenses and the purchased condo.
She just claimed she's not happy.
Why? I have no idea coz she didn't say.
Perhaps she's found another man? But she's not the dating type.
Perhaps the money and condo did not live up to her expectations. She wanted the best.
Perhaps the child isn't really mine and she has a guilt conscience? But she doesn't seem like the type that sleeps around.
Perhaps she's psychologically ill? Possible.
Otherwise I just don't get it ...

[FritsSikkink]

17 hours ago, lcosini said:

Here's where your assumptions are wrong.
She walked away from everything - the hospital expenses, her living expenses and the purchased condo.
She just claimed she's not happy.
Why? I have no idea coz she didn't say.
Perhaps she's found another man? But she's not the dating type.
Perhaps the money and condo did not live up to her expectations. She wanted the best.
Perhaps the child isn't really mine and she has a guilt conscience? But she doesn't seem like the type that sleeps around.
Perhaps she's psychologically ill? Possible.
Otherwise I just don't get it ...

Maybe you didn't listen to what she had to say.