snoop1130 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 PM to consider ‘feasibility’ of plan to train convicts to make weapons By The Nation File photo Prime Minister General Prayut Chan-o-cha on Tuesday defended the idea that the Royal Thai Army Ordnance Department would train prisoners convicted of illegally making or modifying guns to boost their vocational skills so they would not return to crime. The premier said the Corrections Department normally provided inmates with vocational training such as carpentry. “Since, we [the Ministry of Defence] have work in manufacturing weapons and these people have some initial skills, they could have use this as a chance in the future for decent jobs, correct? Such as becoming workers for the ordinance department, right? Or else it would be a missed opportunity,” he said, adding that he would discuss screening and feasibility with the Corrections Department. “This is a change in the old way of thinking that would allow people to have some values in themselves, not just arresting, prosecuting and then releasing them from jail with nothing to do and returning them to the old life of crime. We have to think in a new way to find appropriate methods to do this,” he added. Meanwhile, Corrections Department chief Pol Colonel Narat Sawettanan said his office would submit a list of names and the initial information pertaining to 11 inmates who had been convicted of illegally making or modifying guns. The Royal Thai Army Ordnance Department is supposed to conduct in-depth background checks before possibly enrolling them in training. Narat earlier had instructed all 142 prisons to survey inmates for training potential. He said the number of inmates qualified for the training might be in the dozens but not as many as 100. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30330502 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-10-31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, snoop1130 said: The Royal Thai Army Ordnance Department is supposed to conduct in-depth background checks before possibly enrolling them in training. And I imagine one of the background checks is that they haven't been to prison................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_smith237 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 And in similar news... ... Drugs dealers will be trained up as pharmacists... ... Bombers trained up in munitions... ... Rapists trained as therapists... ... Murderers trained as soldiers... This will free up the burden on the prison system..... Really, the mind boggles, this flies 180 degrees in the face of common sense... It often astonishes me how given the same informant the conclusions drawn by Thai officials are a Polar Opposite to what we in the west would conclude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What could possibly go wrong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) Delete Edited October 31, 2017 by tonray Dup due to crappy website Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 I thought he was too busy with the flood management to think about anything else, like lifting the ban on political activity ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 What do the prison wardens who need maintain safety in the jails, think of this brillant idea? And why not use the inmate labour to clean up the beaches in Thailand instead ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Train a known criminal how to make deadly weapons? Couldn't make this up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted October 31, 2017 Share Posted October 31, 2017 Prayut has time to consider this nonsense, yet no time to consider lifting political bans and restoring democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim1980 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Need to be super GENUS to come up with such unbeatable idea, well done PM you are among people with super human intelligence of all time :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgdawg Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 TIT..this is Thailand! wooohoooo---this is an excellent idea---until it isn't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadperfect Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) It is with no doubt that i can say now i fully understand the thai mentality. For a long time i was confused but thanks for this clear insight into the mind of the man at the top . Edited November 1, 2017 by quadperfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whaleboneman Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Alternate training as locksmiths may be beneficial too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webfact Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 PM, DPM assurance inmate training program will be positive BANGKOK, 1st November 2017 (NNT) – The Minister of Defense has assured the public that a program to train inmates in weapons production is intended to enhance the nation’s security mechanism and will not result in military know-how being used nefariously, with the Prime Minister characterizing the campaign as rehabilitative. Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-ocha said on Tuesday that a Defense Council decision to allow inmates jailed on charges of illegal weapons manufacturing, to attend training to produce firearms for the army as the next step in the Department of Corrections’ skills training program. He asked people to keep an open mind and see the training as career building for inmates, while assuring the public that participants will be carefully selected. Deputy Prime Minister and Defense Minister Gen Prawit Wongsuwan, further elaborated that the inmates will be taught how to produce pistols, which the army currently only imports. He noted that as the inmates have prior knowledge of the topic, they may actually prove beneficial to the military. Minister of Justice Suwaphan Tanyuwattana said this week that the program will use the same criteria as the training of automotive engineers and welders, which is ongoing. Eligible inmates will have to have a record of good behavior and be vetted by both the Ministry of Justice and the Ministry of Defense. He responded to impressions online that the training will be detrimental to society, by saying that allowing the inmates to find legitimate careers will help them to avoid falling back into their criminal ways and will enhance the nation’s military industry. -- nnt 2017-11-01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Instead of manufacturing wheelchairs, affordable farming tools , prostheses for the thousands of accident victims and training for repair of hospital equipment etc. the (black)sheep are trained to make the butcher's knives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 What about cleaning the beaches, klongs and other waterways instead of fixing guns. There is a 12 year old in Chiang Mai who cleans and fixes guns. Sure she could teach the grunts in the military to fix and maintain light arms. There are better ways to rehabilitate people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Just now, webfact said: PM, DPM assurance inmate training program will be positive BANGKOK, 1st November 2017 (NNT) – The Minister of Defense has assured the public that a program to train inmates in weapons production is intended to enhance the nation’s security mechanism and will not result in military know-how being used nefariously, with the Prime Minister characterizing the campaign as rehabilitative. "...and will not result in military know-how being used nefariously..." And once again, I wasn't think that until YOU brought it up, Jabba, but now that you mention it: what better place to find nameless people to do the governments dirty work, than in prisons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) From raped bikini wearing foreign girls to such an idiotic idea. I'm truly speech and hopeless. It might be true that people in Thailand believe that your brain isn't one of the larger ones. . Edited November 1, 2017 by jenny2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 What about producing something that they could continue when back in freedom? People who learn how to make guns will continue producing guns. Only for the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisinth Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 11 hours ago, coulson said: Train a known criminal how to make deadly weapons? Couldn't make this up. But only if they have experience in the making of, or modifying illegal deadly weapons. What could possibly go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ossy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 18 hours ago, snoop1130 said: “Since, we [the Ministry of Defence] have work in manufacturing weapons and these people have some initial skills, they could have use this as a chance in the future for decent jobs, correct? Such as becoming workers for the ordinance department, right? Or else it would be a missed opportunity,” he said, adding that he would discuss screening and feasibility with the Corrections Department. “This is a change in the old way of thinking that would allow people to have some values in themselves, not just arresting, prosecuting and then releasing them from jail with nothing to do and returning them to the old life of crime. We have to think in a new way to find appropriate methods to do this,” he added. The guy must be on some hallucinatory drug; either that or he's having an affair with a gun-making convict's mother. The idiotic scheme is riddled with so many glaring pitfalls that Prayut has now resorted to trying to fool himself. That the MoD may be involved in weapons - not sure about manufacturing the things, though - is acceptable, provided that both the Ministry and Prayut agree that weaponry-making is an extremely specialised business, involving huge factory and skill resources. How can a prison workshop possibly be looked at in the same light? Only in a dream and we all know how crazy those can be. Prisoners, doing time for gun-related crimes are likely to possess more than a little of a dark side. Chances are, they're the last people to be let anywhere near the army's weaponry. You can imagine their smiles spreading from ear-to-ear as the prison director is outlining the scheme to them. Prayut's newly-adopted mannerism of ending his idiotic suggestions with a questioning "correct?" and, then a "right?" shows that even he's not sure about what's pouring out of his out-of-control gob. Allowing people to 'have some values in themselves' is certainly a worthy notion, but just why 'We have to think in a new way to find appropriate methods to do this' on the same day that he was spouting about vocational training and continue support for existing innovations, and inviting everyone to attend such job-focussed training. Get parole-approaching prisoners at the front of the queues for those courses, you wazzock; not making guns that, come day 2, they'll be lobbing over the prison wall to their mafia mates, outside. Prayut, like the entire country and, as TAT keeps shouting from the still flooded roof-tops, is ALWAYS AMAZING. too true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ossy said: The guy must be on some hallucinatory drug; either that or he's having an affair with a gun-making convict's mother. The idiotic scheme is riddled with so many glaring pitfalls that Prayut has now resorted to trying to fool himself. That the MoD may be involved in weapons - not sure about manufacturing the things, though - is acceptable, provided that both the Ministry and Prayut agree that weaponry-making is an extremely specialised business, involving huge factory and skill resources. How can a prison workshop possibly be looked at in the same light? Only in a dream and we all know how crazy those can be. Prisoners, doing time for gun-related crimes are likely to possess more than a little of a dark side. Chances are, they're the last people to be let anywhere near the army's weaponry. You can imagine their smiles spreading from ear-to-ear as the prison director is outlining the scheme to them. Prayut's newly-adopted mannerism of ending his idiotic suggestions with a questioning "correct?" and, then a "right?" shows that even he's not sure about what's pouring out of his out-of-control gob. Allowing people to 'have some values in themselves' is certainly a worthy notion, but just why 'We have to think in a new way to find appropriate methods to do this' on the same day that he was spouting about vocational training and continue support for existing innovations, and inviting everyone to attend such job-focussed training. Get parole-approaching prisoners at the front of the queues for those courses, you wazzock; not making guns that, come day 2, they'll be lobbing over the prison wall to their mafia mates, outside. Prayut, like the entire country and, as TAT keeps shouting from the still flooded roof-tops, is ALWAYS AMAZING. too true! Another huge problem might be that once they've got access to guns, they only need one bullet for a prison break. Congratulations, Mr. Prayuth, you're a very smart man. Trump and Prayuth need more power to rule the world. Edited November 1, 2017 by jenny2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 "The emperor's new clothes" Nobody had the guts to tell Prayut he is naked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 1 minute ago, klauskunkel said: "The emperor's new clothes" Nobody had the guts to tell Prayut he is naked. Even if somebody would tell him that he's very naked, he wouldn't believe them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 In phase 2 they may train captured southern insurgents to become members of the bomb squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyman58 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yep good thinking Thailand needs more guns not something that will benefit the people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 High order critical thinking does not seem to be a part of "authorities" mentality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pattayadgw Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I'm absolutely gobsmacked!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 One can't fix Stupid ,,,,If they had Any Brains they would be dangerous,,,, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cracker1 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 UNBELIEVABLE ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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