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[snoop1130]

Dustin Hoffman says sex harassment claim 'not reflective of who I am'

 

 

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Oscar-winning actor Dustin Hoffman responded on Wednesday to an allegation of sexual harassment by a teenage intern on a film set more than 30 years ago.

 

"I have the utmost respect for women and feel terrible that anything I might have done could have put her in an uncomfortable situation. I am sorry," Hoffman said in a statement to the magazine.

 

Hoffman, 80, star of "The Graduate" and "Tootsie," said behaviour described by Anna Graham Hunter in a first person account for The Hollywood Reporter magazine was "not reflective of who I am."

 

Reuters could not independently confirm Hunter's allegations. Hoffman's representatives did not respond to requests for further comment and Reuters was unable to reach Hunter.

 

Hunter alleged in extracts from her 1985 diary and notes to her sister that Hoffman made vulgar remarks and jokes at her expense while she was working as a 17-year-old production assistant on the set of the 1985 TV film "Death of a Salesman."

 

"He (Hoffman) was openly flirtatious, he grabbed my ass, he talked about sex to me and in front of me," Hunter wrote.

 

Earlier on Wednesday, the Los Angeles Times reported that six women had made allegations of harassment and unwanted attention against movie director Brett Ratner. Ratner's lawyer vehemently denied their claims.

 

A number of allegations of sexual harassment and assault have been made in recent months against some prominent Hollywood men, including producer Harvey Weinstein and actor Kevin Spacey.

 

(Reporting by Jill Serjeant)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-11-2

[phuketrichard]

what do u really expect him to say?
 

"yep, thats who I am "

[lust]

Hollywood is burning to the ground.

[amvet]

She said, "Mr. Hoffman what do you want for lunch?"  He said, "Your right breast."  She said, "That's disgusting."  He said, "OK your left breast then."

 

From what I remember. 

[Grouse]

Ask Mrs Robinson ?

[boomerangutang]

                  I'd venture that at least half of all men on the planet have partaken in some sort of sexual harassment - particularly when they were young and were full of testosterone and alcohol.  I've done some aggressive things. 

                 On the other hand, I've been gently chided when at times, when I wasn't aggressive enough.  How many guys have heard a variation of something like this from an attractive woman: "well, I would have made out with you (or 'gone to your apartment') that night, if you'd made it clear that you wanted me."   Instead, she goes and gets nasty with some other guy, who is less gentlemanly, and more aggressive.

                  Women want it both ways.  They wind up going with guys who are aggressive (tho that aggressiveness is often well disguised), instead of the guys who are too gentlemanly for their own good.   The dating game is tricky.  I don't fault Dustin for being cheeky decades ago. If he was rude, the woman could have called him out about it at the time. 

               I have daughters, and I teach them to speak up, when they feel threatened.   My daughter, when 20, was walking once in Amsterdam and a man came on to her lewdly.  She dealt with it dynamically, and the guy faded away.

[kiniyow]

30 Years ago but just Now getting reported? Is this ever going to Stop?

[Andaman Al]

From the days of Charlie Chaplin, rightly or wrongly the Hollywood casting couch has been a part of the furniture in the movie industry. If any male actor has ever pissed off an actress then all that needs to be done now is to make an allegation, and whether true or not the actor/Director will be finished. This all seems a little like the Salem witch trials now. I think frankly that a woman lodging a formal complaint 30 years after a man grabbed her butt and spoke about sex is probably a bit out of order (on both parties of course).

 

There is a guy now saying that he suffered PTSD after Kevin Spacey grabbed him by the crotch. Let me take that man to Afghanistan or Iraq on a combat foot patrol and I will show him what PTSD is !!

 

Yes Hollywood is burning. It should all make for a really jolly Oscars ceremony early next year. They may have to replace the lifetime achievement awards with the lifetime harassment award.

 

I wonder when the first complaint will come in from someone who was a willing 'groupie' back stage with the likes of the Rolling Stones (or any other Rock Band) in the 60's and 70's.

[4MyEgo]

1 hour ago, boomerangutang said:

                  I'd venture that at least half of all men on the planet have partaken in some sort of sexual harassment - particularly when they were young and were full of testosterone and alcohol.  I've done some aggressive things. 

                 On the other hand, I've been gently chided when at times, when I wasn't aggressive enough.  How many guys have heard a variation of something like this from an attractive woman: "well, I would have made out with you (or 'gone to your apartment') that night, if you'd made it clear that you wanted me."   Instead, she goes and gets nasty with some other guy, who is less gentlemanly, and more aggressive.

                  Women want it both ways.  They wind up going with guys who are aggressive (tho that aggressiveness is often well disguised), instead of the guys who are too gentlemanly for their own good.   The dating game is tricky.  I don't fault Dustin for being cheeky decades ago. If he was rude, the woman could have called him out about it at the time. 

               I have daughters, and I teach them to speak up, when they feel threatened.   My daughter, when 20, was walking once in Amsterdam and a man came on to her lewdly.  She dealt with it dynamically, and the guy faded away.

Your spot on, women don't mind the occasional flirted if its done in good taste, although it also depends if their interested or not in you and you have to watch what you do and say, although persistence has paid off when at first I have though their not interested.

 

I remember back in the early 90's when I was working in a real estate office, I would flirt with this blonde girl, and tapped gently tapped her on the rear cheek gently as she walked by, no one present of course, and she turned and said; you can't touch me there smiling, me with a bit of a dumb look on my face because not long before she was exposing her lovely breasts to me as she leaned over my desk, fully aware that they were staring at me saying )**^&*R*$*, to continue, the sentence, she said, until we have a few drinks pointing to the pub across the road, after all it was a Friday and knock off time, suffice to say we ended up at the pub, got smashed and no I didn't get to first base with her, although we had some fun, but for some reason, it just didn't happen, hot, cold, and I didn't like the way she wasn't giving in, suffice to say, I wasn't fussed and picked up another girl luckily enough, but here is the crazy part, she walked past the boss "a real ladies man" a few days later and I noticed that they were being very playful beforehand, and as I walked by he tapped her on the rear cheek and she spun around and said don't touch me, like a cat after you have stepped on its tail, she had this look on her face as if to kill, with my boss turning to me saying did you see me touch her, with me just continuing on walking, and her going up the stairs.

 

He then came into my office and said that girl sends so many mixed signals, but that's not what I came here for, I came to ask, if you saw me touch her as she stated, I said boss, sometimes its best not to think you saw what you think you saw, and I saw nothing, even if I did see something, I saw nothing, I found out later she lodged a complaint with the anti-discrimination board, but left before anything happened, long of the short, women are a strange bread and have to be handled in a certain way most times, and as you said, not in a gentlemanly way, but also not in a degrading way. 

 

I think all of this crap coming up after 30 years is a load of crap, just as I said, I mean if you were raped or something like that, why on earth wouldn't you go to the cops, only to come out 30 years later, doesn't add up to me, harassment,  yeh, ok get on with it, life's a bitch, I too have daughters and they will serve it to any male thinking he can get away with it, but it will be dealt with on the spot !

[chickenslegs]

I'm shocked!

 

I always thought he was gay.

[oxo1947]

12 minutes ago, chickenslegs said:

I always thought he was gay.

No he's Jewish..........

[Andaman Al]

20 minutes ago, 4MyEgo said:

I remember back in the early 90's when I was working in a real estate office, I would flirt with this blonde girl, and tapped gently tapped her on the rear cheek gently as she walked by, no one present of course, and she turned and said; you can't touch me there smiling, me with a bit of a dumb look on my face because not long before she was exposing her lovely breasts to me as she leaned over my desk, fully aware that they were staring at me saying )**^&*R*$*, to continue, the sentence, she said, until we have a few drinks pointing to the pub across the road, after all it was a Friday and knock off time, suffice to say we ended up at the pub, got smashed and no I didn't get to first base with her, although we had some fun, but for some reason, it just didn't happen, hot, cold, and I didn't like the way she wasn't giving in, suffice to say, I wasn't fussed and picked up another girl luckily enough, but here is the crazy part, she walked past the boss "a real ladies man" a few days later and I noticed that they were being very playful beforehand, and as I walked by he tapped her on the rear cheek and she spun around and said don't touch me, like a cat after you have stepped on its tail, she had this look on her face as if to kill, with my boss turning to me saying did you see me touch her, with me just continuing on walking, and her going up the stairs.

Did you use to write for Fiesta and Razzle back in the 90's? I was just waiting for the line 'she licked and sucked me clean' to creep in and I would have known for sure.

[boomerangutang]

Men and women are such a variable lot.  Women in particular.  They can wax hot and cold.  Playful and angry.  Seductive and vindictive.  It's tough for both men and women, endeavoring to play the mating game - even if it's pairing off for just a short time.   

 

And then add the one legal recreational drug (alcohol) to the mix, and it gets 5X more confusing.  

 

Fathers:  teach your daughters:  if a guy bothers you, either call him out on it and/or get far away from him.   If he does something illegal or harmful, report it to authorities.

[Credo]

We'll all know it's gone too far when some of the porn stars start complaining of sexual harassment.

[USPatriot]

Looks like the liberal Hollywood crew are all about women rights until they get women alone

[balo]

Everyone does it , we are men , its in our nature . 

[quandow]

8 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

                  I'd venture that at least half of all men on the planet have partaken in some sort of sexual harassment - particularly when they were young and were full of testosterone and alcohol.  I've done some aggressive things. 

                 On the other hand, I've been gently chided when at times, when I wasn't aggressive enough.  How many guys have heard a variation of something like this from an attractive woman: "well, I would have made out with you (or 'gone to your apartment') that night, if you'd made it clear that you wanted me."   Instead, she goes and gets nasty with some other guy, who is less gentlemanly, and more aggressive.

 

This is why I like renting in Thailand (and I'm NOT referring to a condo). Everything is clear up front and I don't have to talk inanities before or after.

[4MyEgo]

7 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

Did you use to write for Fiesta and Razzle back in the 90's? I was just waiting for the line 'she licked and sucked me clean' to creep in and I would have known for sure.

Edited November 2, 2017 by 4MyEgo

[IAMHERE]

Is it just Hollywood? Nothing in Bollywood or the other film capitals of the world? Pinewood anybody?

[LazySlipper]

23 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

Women want it both ways.  They wind up going with guys who are aggressive (tho that aggressiveness is often well disguised), instead of the guys who are too gentlemanly for their own good.   The dating game is tricky.  I don't fault Dustin for being cheeky decades ago. If he was rude, the woman could have called him out about it at the time. 

 

Problem is imho that the patriarch is out the door and the matriarch is in.

As long as people remain PC and have no tolerance for any behavior they deem 'not nice' men will have to beware. 

Before I finished university my school implemented a policy in which a woman could claim sexual harassment if she felt a guy LOOKED at her the "WRONG WAY'. 

 

Do men do <deleted> things? Yes... we do...

 

However, I feel that the world in the west is castrating its males. When women turn around and claim foul play 5-30 years later any man is left with only one choice. Plead guilty. There is no way to prove one's innocence.

 

Edited November 3, 2017 by LazySlipper

[canuckamuck]

Part of the Marxist strategy to destroy western culture. Oppress the males until they are only chattel. 

[NumbNut]

9 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

Did you use to write for Fiesta and Razzle back in the 90's? I was just waiting for the line 'she licked and sucked me clean' to creep in and I would have known for sure.

 

Yeah, good one! Have a well-earned 'like' there!

 

"I never thought this could happen to me..." etc etc

 

Actually, I bet Dustin Hoffman is thinking this right now!

Edited November 3, 2017 by NumbNut

[MaeJoMTB]

he was great in Marathon man.

[tigermoth]

Why didn't all these alleged harassment claims surface when they happened. I suspect the vast majority are from has beens trying to make some easy money.

[Rancid]

And none of us ever wondered why we see attractive actresses, that can't act, in B moves? The nature of our system in and out of Hollywood is that there are parasitic gate keepers on the way up the ladder who demand their fee.

[Berkshire]

5 hours ago, balo said:

Everyone does it , we are men , its in our nature . 

There's more truth to this than we care to admit.  All (ok, many) guys want it, but the guys in power have more access to it.  I'd imagine there's a lot more where this came from, not only Hollywood, but in big business, the halls of Congress, big media, universities, heck, even in the military.  Older guys after young hotties.  It's the way of the world. 

[oldies1]

[tifino]

 

Sooty and Sweep probably watched Noddy and Big Ears, when they were themselves growing up...

 

 

... meanhile back at the ranch; DH is would be bleating "I'm not as dumb as I look"

Edited November 3, 2017 by tifino

[DrTuner]

It's guilty until proven innocent these days. Feel free to point at any old white dude, no evidence needed.

[i claudius]

I keep waiting for the knock on the door i sexually molested a 15 year old girl back in the early 70s .i hope she does not go to the police about it , mind you they may take into account that we were together for over 17 years afterwards and she did get half the house

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