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[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, partington said:

Well precisely.  This behaviour was as unpleasant to women then as it is now.  

 

I dont think that you can speak on behalf of all Woman

There are some females that do actually like seeing such things

[partington]

 

 

What we are talking about is being forced to see it without being asked, or being in a position to freely refuse.

 

I'm sure even if you like cheese sandwiches you would still be annoyed if I jumped on you and stuffed one into your mouth without warning as soon as we were alone in a room.

Edited November 11, 2017 by partington

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, partington said:

 

 

What we are talking about is being forced to see it without being asked, or being in a position to freely refuse.

 

I'm sure even if you like cheese sandwiches you would still be annoyed if I jumped on you and stuffed one into your mouth without warning as soon as we were alone in a room.

They were freely able to leave the room .

They were not forced to do anything .

I do realise that there was an aspect of them putting their careers before their dignity , had they stayed in the room because they wanted to keep/get work , even so , this situation just deserves a "500 Baht fine and a Wai" , so to speak

[Jingthing]

It doesn't sound like criminal behavior. It does sound like he was being a jerk and exploiting his fame. It also points to a weird psychology which oddly probably contributes to his unusually brilliant talent. I really don't think most men (but we're only talking about men with power/fame here specifically as otherwise the women would just always leave if allowed) get off wanking in front of women when they know they really don't want to be in the room. That's more about power than sex. Rapey without literal rape. Most men would rather wank to porn than that.

 

Edited November 11, 2017 by Jingthing

[zydeco]

10 hours ago, rooster59 said:

C.K., 50, said he had "spent my long and lucky career talking and saying anything I want. I will now step back and take a long time to listen." He did not make clear how long he would be stepping back for.

I've never even heard of this guy. Seems like the witch hunts are heading for the minor leagues, now.

[JHolmesJr]

Lucky for warren beatty...he probably doesn't need to work any more....he'd be slaughtered.

[brewsterbudgen]

I've never even heard of this guy. Seems like the witch hunts are heading for the minor leagues, now.

You should get out more! He's a comedy genius and a multi Emmy award winner. Not to everyone's taste, especially those easily offended, but certainly not minor league.

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[ilostmypassword]

7 hours ago, zydeco said:

I've never even heard of this guy. Seems like the witch hunts are heading for the minor leagues, now.

He filled Madison Square Garden for 3 or 4 nights in a row. And I believe the tickets were sold almost instantly. Until this incident I think people who follow this sort of thing would say he's the number 1 comedian in the USA. Maybe you're a Gallagher fan? Or a fan of Dane Cook?

Anyway, here's a link to one of his brilliant bits (i mean his comedic stylings, not the other ones):

https://www.highsnobiety.com/2017/04/09/louis-ck-snl-monologue-april-2017/

 

[Ramen087]

14 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

You should get out more! He's a comedy genius and a multi Emmy award winner. Not to everyone's taste, especially those easily offended, but certainly not minor league.

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Not for the easily offended... an incredibly ironic characterization of the man, especially when he forces women to watch him burp his worm... and by the way, he righteously labeled himself a feminist multiple times in the press while taking photos with his politician buddies like the mayor of NYC... also taking the position of a social justice warrior via the media too... now be claims he's getting help with his "illness" after treating women reprehensibly via a completely insincere apologetic message to the world... the guy is a total piece of fecal matter...  I hope he's tried & convicted and does time in a prison in the general population... he'll learn the true meaning of sexual assault there... 

[sanemax]

18 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

 I hope he's tried & convicted and does time in a prison in the general population... he'll learn the true meaning of sexual assault there... 

That would be a severe punishment for what he did .

Getting put in jail with the hope that he gets sexually assaulted there : Brutal .

[Ramen087]

 

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

That would be a severe punishment for what he did . Getting put in jail with the hope that he gets sexually assaulted there : Brutal .

The man is a totally abusive individual who believed in his ability to act with impunity. His actions are one of sexual assault. Think of how you would feel if one of the women subject to being trapped with this creep while he sexually pleasures himself was your wife, daughter, sister, niece or dear friend. It's a terrifying scenario. Those women will likely never forget it, and it will affect their interactions with men for the rest of their lives. He thought he could rise above these despicable acts using a PC persona and comedic talent.  He's the lowest of the low, and he deserves to feel the same level of fear and assault. He needs to be put in that helpless position by those with power who abuse it. That's what he did to those women. That environment needs to be his home for a while. Justice, that's all I demand. 

[brewsterbudgen]

Not for the easily offended... an incredibly ironic characterization of the man, especially when he forces women to watch him burp his worm... and by the way, he righteously labeled himself a feminist multiple times in the press while taking photos with his politician buddies like the mayor of NYC... also taking the position of a social justice warrior via the media too... now be claims he's getting help with his "illness" after treating women reprehensibly via a completely insincere apologetic message to the world... the guy is a total piece of fecal matter...  I hope he's tried & convicted and does time in a prison in the general population... he'll learn the true meaning of sexual assault there... 

Hardly a sexual assault and no way will he face any criminal sanctions, nor should he. Your imagination (or prejudices) is getting a little carried away here!!

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[Ramen087]

10 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Hardly a sexual assault and no way will he face any criminal sanctions, nor should he. Your imagination (or prejudices) is getting a little carried away here!!

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No imagination. No prejudice. Please check post forty one..

Edited November 12, 2017 by Ramen087

[ilostmypassword]

33 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Not for the easily offended... an incredibly ironic characterization of the man, especially when he forces women to watch him burp his worm... and by the way, he righteously labeled himself a feminist multiple times in the press while taking photos with his politician buddies like the mayor of NYC... also taking the position of a social justice warrior via the media too... now be claims he's getting help with his "illness" after treating women reprehensibly via a completely insincere apologetic message to the world... the guy is a total piece of fecal matter...  I hope he's tried & convicted and does time in a prison in the general population... he'll learn the true meaning of sexual assault there... 

This from a Trump supporter.

[brewsterbudgen]

No imagination. No prejudice. Please check post forty one..

Yes. Post #32 is imaginative. I've never seen eating a cheese sandwich and masturbation compared before.

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[KarenBravo]

20 hours ago, Jingthing said:

He won't be able to work again in the U.S.

But he's one of the great comedic talents of our time so I hope he expatriates and can continue his work. 
 

He will start writing comedic material under a pseudonym.

[Ramen087]

Let me guess, the previous post 44 has a USA political reference... so predictable. Odds are fifty-fifty it is also contains a notation personal in nature. 

Edited November 12, 2017 by Ramen087

[KarenBravo]

28 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

 

The man is a totally abusive individual who believed in his ability to act with impunity. His actions are one of sexual assault. Think of how you would feel if one of the women subject to being trapped with this creep while he sexually pleasures himself was your wife, daughter, sister, niece or dear friend. It's a terrifying scenario. Those women will likely never forget it, and it will affect their interactions with men for the rest of their lives. He thought he could rise above these despicable acts using a PC persona and comedic talent.  He's the lowest of the low, and he deserves to feel the same level of fear and assault. He needs to be put in that helpless position by those with power who abuse it. That's what he did to those women. That environment needs to be his home for a while. Justice, that's all I demand. 

Are yes, appealing to the emotions rather than logic, reason and the Law.  Always works.....

[Ramen087]

8 minutes ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Yes. Post #32 is imaginative. I've never seen eating a cheese sandwich and masturbation compared before.

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Edited... sorry for the error, should have referenced post forty one. 

[Ramen087]

7 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

Are yes, appealing to the emotions rather than logic, reason and the Law.

Always works.....

Any defense or mitigation of Louis C.K's actions, direct or indirect, is very demoralizing to anyone who values the basic humanity of the ladies involved. 

[KarenBravo]

1 minute ago, Ramen087 said:

Any defense or mitigation of Louis C.K's actions, direct or indirect, is very demoralizing to anyone who values the basic humanity of the ladies involved. 

You're right. Let's give them all 32 million dollars each.......

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

Any defense or mitigation of Louis C.K's actions, direct or indirect, is very demoralizing to anyone who values the basic humanity of the ladies involved. 

How can you say that , with your Avatar along side your quote !!!!!!!

[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

How can you say that , with your Avatar along side your quote !!!!!!!

He's not exactly forcing that lady to watch him tug 

[Ramen087]

9 minutes ago, KarenBravo said:

You're right. Let's give them all 32 million dollars each.......

Your conclusion and statement are unrelated to my opinion...

[Ramen087]

14 minutes ago, sanemax said:

How can you say that , with your Avatar along side your quote !!!!!!!

With ease, because the actress and model posted the photo on her official website and Facebook page. She was the lead in the Italian film 'Il Postino'  if you care to look up her credentials. She also has appeared in a Sopranos episode entitled "Isabella". Have a good day.

Edited November 12, 2017 by Ramen087

[sanemax]

22 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

 

The man is a totally abusive individual who believed in his ability to act with impunity. His actions are one of sexual assault. Think of how you would feel if one of the women subject to being trapped with this creep while he sexually pleasures himself was your wife, daughter, sister, niece or dear friend. It's a terrifying scenario. Those women will likely never forget it, and it will affect their interactions with men for the rest of their lives. He thought he could rise above these despicable acts using a PC persona and comedic talent.  He's the lowest of the low, and he deserves to feel the same level of fear and assault. He needs to be put in that helpless position by those with power who abuse it. That's what he did to those women. That environment needs to be his home for a while. Justice, that's all I demand. 

You are going to the extremes and suggesting severe punishment .

You need to get a grip (although not in the same way that he did ), this is only a minor offence , is it even an offence ?

    You do seem like a strict puritan guy , porn is disgusting , sex only with the light off , sexual assault (rape) should be a punishment .

   Maybe you are just innocent and naive ,  but theres a whole sordid World out there , there are some sexual deviants who have sex with more than just one other person , depraved, I know , but you shouldnt judge everyone else by your own strict moral standards .

   Were these ladies innocent people who have never seen a male naked before ? Were they eternally mentally deranged after seeing an erect penis ? 

   Yes, it may be a bit sordid , but nothing more than that .

[sanemax]

7 minutes ago, Ramen087 said:

With ease, because the actress and model posted the photo on her official website and Facebook page. She was the lead in the Italian film 'Il Postino'  if you care to look up her credentials. She also has appeared in a Sopranos episode entitled "Isabella". Have a good day.

You are forcing me too look and a photo of a buxom woman in her underwear with her breasts partially exposed .

   I do not want to see such things . Imagine if that was my mum , sister or close friend .

I will never be able to forget that image and I may have issues dealing with females in the future .

I didnt ask to see that photo , you forced it upon me , that is sexual abuse .

You should be put in jail with a big black guy , whos hasnt had sex for 20 years

[lannarebirth]

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

You are going to the extremes and suggesting severe punishment .

You need to get a grip (although not in the same way that he did ), this is only a minor offence , is it even an offence ?

    You do seem like a strict puritan guy , porn is disgusting , sex only with the light off , sexual assault (rape) should be a punishment .

   Maybe you are just innocent and naive ,  but theres a whole sordid World out there , there are some sexual deviants who have sex with more than just one other person , depraved, I know , but you shouldnt judge everyone else by your own strict moral standards .

   Were these ladies innocent people who have never seen a male naked before ? Were they eternally mentally deranged after seeing an erect penis ? 

   Yes, it may be a bit sordid , but nothing more than that .

I imagine it falls under the heading of "indecent exposure". In many US jurisdictions just getting caught taking a piss on the side of the road will get you on the list of Registered Sexual Offenders , so it is not something to be taken lightly.

[Ramen087]

4 minutes ago, sanemax said:

You are going to the extremes and suggesting severe punishment .

You need to get a grip (although not in the same way that he did ), this is only a minor offence , is it even an offence ?

    You do seem like a strict puritan guy , porn is disgusting , sex only with the light off , sexual assault (rape) should be a punishment .

   Maybe you are just innocent and naive ,  but theres a whole sordid World out there , there are some sexual deviants who have sex with more than just one other person , depraved, I know , but you shouldnt judge everyone else by your own strict moral standards .

   Were these ladies innocent people who have never seen a male naked before ? Were they eternally mentally deranged after seeing an erect penis ? 

   Yes, it may be a bit sordid , but nothing more than that .

You know nothing about me and your characterization of me is way off the mark. So are the conclusions you have stated based in that characterization.

 

Furthermore, the hypotheticals about the women and what could be wrong with suggest you feel they're  not victims, but instead suffer an illness, even though Louis C.K. has already admitted to the horrible and abusive acts. There is nothing relative about a man trapping a women in a room and forcing her to watch him masturbate.  It is always wrong. Always.

 

I find your outlook based on the previous post Simply Indefensible. Goodbye.

[ilostmypassword]

21 hours ago, Jingthing said:

He won't be able to work again in the U.S.

But he's one of the great comedic talents of our time so I hope he expatriates and can continue his work. 
 

Not so sure about that. His talent is just too great. And he didn't deny it or blame the women who are accusing him.  And he will certainly be able to stream his material from a website.