thaibeachlovers Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Thanks to U Tube I am able to watch such delights as The Seekers, Peter Paul and Mary, etc etc etc. I was just thinking that all the really great music that I like is from the last century ( musicians from the last century still playing don't count ). Is that because talent is no longer being born, or is it that commercialism has destroyed good music in favour of rubbish that appeals to the masses? Would three ordinary looking blokes and a sheila that can sing like an angel make it in today's music industry? I doubt it, and the world is all the poorer for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreasyFingers Posted December 27, 2017 Share Posted December 27, 2017 I do not listen to anything produced after 1978. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) Karen Capenter had the voice of an angel as well. But surely the major influences in the development of music in the last century must have been the likes of Beatles Led Zepp Pink Floyd etc truly talented and inventive as well. In that era though there were developments in musical recording such as stereo and even quad that encouraged the likes of Tubular Bells or Dark Side of the Moon. Then later sound techniques that allowed for ethereal music and Techno music. I wonder if there is anywhere left to go with 'inventive and unique music'. Edited December 28, 2017 by Gruff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 On 12/28/2017 at 11:44 AM, Gruff said: Karen Capenter had the voice of an angel as well. But surely the major influences in the development of music in the last century must have been the likes of Beatles Led Zepp Pink Floyd etc truly talented and inventive as well. In that era though there were developments in musical recording such as stereo and even quad that encouraged the likes of Tubular Bells or Dark Side of the Moon. Then later sound techniques that allowed for ethereal music and Techno music. I wonder if there is anywhere left to go with 'inventive and unique music'. I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Such a shame about Karen. Really, really sad that she left us so young. IMO the singers/ bands that actually had world changing significance were ( in no particular order ) Jefferson Airplane, Peter Paul and Mary, The Seekers, Elvis, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, Janice Joplin, The Beatles/ Rolling Stones ( two sides of the same coin ), Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Santana, Fleetwood Mac, SuperTramp, Tom Petty, Elton John, The Who, Roy Orbison, The Doors, The Eagles, U2 ( I hate everything they ever made, but they were big ), Michael Jackson, Bowie, Beach Boys, Cream, Dire Straits. Probably a few I've missed, but IMO not many. I like loads more, but I've kept it to groups that I think changed our musical tastes. Groups like AC/DC are great, but I never even listened to them till a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sipi Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 The yound chaps at work asked me if I like modern music and I told them I don't mind Eminem. They were like "he was around 20 years ago". Time flies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 12 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said: I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Such a shame about Karen. Really, really sad that she left us so young. IMO the singers/ bands that actually had world changing significance were ( in no particular order ) Jefferson Airplane, Peter Paul and Mary, The Seekers, Elvis, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, Janice Joplin, The Beatles/ Rolling Stones ( two sides of the same coin ), Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Santana, Fleetwood Mac, SuperTramp, Tom Petty, Elton John, The Who, Roy Orbison, The Doors, The Eagles, U2 ( I hate everything they ever made, but they were big ), Michael Jackson, Bowie, Beach Boys, Cream, Dire Straits. Probably a few I've missed, but IMO not many. I like loads more, but I've kept it to groups that I think changed our musical tastes. Groups like AC/DC are great, but I never even listened to them till a few years ago. That's not a bad play list. I am a aware of some of the recent music, but I can't say that I know any of the current big names by the music. It is only because they make headlines that I know they exist and are a big deal in certain circles. I am transitioning to jazz. Once you get into it a lot of other stuff seems contrived and weak. Also it is timeless. The stuff from 60 years ago is still relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, sipi said: The yound chaps at work asked me if I like modern music and I told them I don't mind Eminem. They were like "he was around 20 years ago". Time flies. What is Eminem? Like the other poster I stopped listening to new music in 1978. Gregorian, classic, 20's, mersey, flower power, hard rock, pop, psychodelic, punk, new wave, agit prop, and I forget some, yeah great, but after 1978???? And not to forget: The music I used to hate because my father liked it: Piaf, Alte Kamaraden,... My first 4 albums: Mamas & Papas: Best of /// Cream: First album /// Pink Floyd: More /// That's Underground, compilation in multi colour vinyl. I used to carry a cassette player in my back pack when walking in the mountains + a bag of batteries + a copy of The Lord Of The Rings ( many years before the movie).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 I realize that I sound like my father 50 years ago... But 50 years ago I was right and he was wrong, and I am still right. The generation conflict of the 60's was not about differences of age! Meanwhile, now: Coffee & sunrise in the jungle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) On 12/26/2017 at 5:42 PM, GreasyFingers said: I do not listen to anything produced after 1978. Then you missed a lot of great music in the 1980s. IMO, it did not produce many bands that were really great on a long-term basis (The Beatles, The Stones, Led Zeppelin), but lots of great tunes that still sound good today. Edited December 30, 2017 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said: Then you missed a lot of great music in the 1980s. IMO, it did not produce many bands that were really great on a long-term basis (The Beatles, The Stones, Led Zeppelin), but lots of great tunes that still sound good today. Nice videos, poor music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, oldhippy said: Nice videos, poor music. Sounds like a personal opinion and one that a lot of people would disagree with. Edited December 30, 2017 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 (edited) Some great stuff in the 1990s too. Edited December 30, 2017 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruff Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 On 12/29/2017 at 10:58 AM, thaibeachlovers said: I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Such a shame about Karen. Really, really sad that she left us so young. IMO the singers/ bands that actually had world changing significance were ( in no particular order ) Jefferson Airplane, Peter Paul and Mary, The Seekers, Elvis, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, Janice Joplin, The Beatles/ Rolling Stones ( two sides of the same coin ), Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Santana, Fleetwood Mac, SuperTramp, Tom Petty, Elton John, The Who, Roy Orbison, The Doors, The Eagles, U2 ( I hate everything they ever made, but they were big ), Michael Jackson, Bowie, Beach Boys, Cream, Dire Straits. Probably a few I've missed, but IMO not many. I like loads more, but I've kept it to groups that I think changed our musical tastes. Groups like AC/DC are great, but I never even listened to them till a few years ago. I am a bit surprised you missed Abba. In many ways not 'my cup of tea' but can anybody compete with more melancholy that 'Winner Takes it All' / 'Slipping Through my Fingers'. And more angelic voices ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 (edited) More 80s stuff: Edited January 1, 2018 by Ulysses G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulysses G. Posted January 1, 2018 Share Posted January 1, 2018 A favorite tune from late 60s or early 70s - written by David Bowie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1FinickyOne Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 There are still singer songwriters putting out things you might enjoy... why limit it to groups... That said, there were some great big band sounds too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1FinickyOne Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/30/2017 at 6:42 AM, oldhippy said: What is Eminem? Well known for versatility... plain or peanut, many different colors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJBangkok Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The godfather of reggae Jimmy Cliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cory1848 Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/26/2017 at 12:52 PM, thaibeachlovers said: Is that because talent is no longer being born, or is it that commercialism has destroyed good music in favour of rubbish that appeals to the masses? What’s happened hasn’t happened to musical talent: it’s happened to you. You’ve gotten older. There’s tons of great music being made today by people in their twenties and thirties; you just have to open your ears to it. And it’s nothing new that people get stuck on music they listened to when they were young and come to believe that everything that came after is substandard. My mother told me that, as a teenager in Europe in the 1930s, she’d wander around the streets of her city, her head filled with decadent Viennese waltzes, while her parents kept hoping she’d focus more on the German classical composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, kenk24 said: Well known for versatility... plain or peanut, many different colors. I don't classify anything I can't dance to as "music". Eminem may be popular with some people, but not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, kenk24 said: There are still singer songwriters putting out things you might enjoy... why limit it to groups... That said, there were some great big band sounds too... Agree, and I like many of them, but IMO they are all just making forgettable music, so not great or "the best". Elvis is great because he's still played, while no one ever plays the song about "itsy bitsy teeny weenie yellow bikini" anymore, despite it being a HUGE hit at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Cory1848 said: What’s happened hasn’t happened to musical talent: it’s happened to you. You’ve gotten older. There’s tons of great music being made today by people in their twenties and thirties; you just have to open your ears to it. And it’s nothing new that people get stuck on music they listened to when they were young and come to believe that everything that came after is substandard. My mother told me that, as a teenager in Europe in the 1930s, she’d wander around the streets of her city, her head filled with decadent Viennese waltzes, while her parents kept hoping she’d focus more on the German classical composers. Not entirely true. I love trance, and other types of "modern" music. I just don't consider them "the best". I can't name a single "supergroup" that started after 2000. BTW, I love Viennese waltzes and some classical music too, along with Irish rebel songs and ballads. The trouble with having too wide a taste in music is that it's hard to listen to all of it. At the moment I've got Connie Francis on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, AJBangkok said: The godfather of reggae Jimmy Cliff I didn't forget reggae, but in the end I decided it's a "niche" category and not universally loved in the way that everyone loves Elvis. I do like it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The manic Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 29/12/2017 at 5:58 PM, thaibeachlovers said: I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Such a shame about Karen. Really, really sad that she left us so young. IMO the singers/ bands that actually had world changing significance were ( in no particular order ) Jefferson Airplane, Peter Paul and Mary, The Seekers, Elvis, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, Janice Joplin, The Beatles/ Rolling Stones ( two sides of the same coin ), Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Santana, Fleetwood Mac, SuperTramp, Tom Petty, Elton John, The Who, Roy Orbison, The Doors, The Eagles, U2 ( I hate everything they ever made, but they were big ), Michael Jackson, Bowie, Beach Boys, Cream, Dire Straits. Probably a few I've missed, but IMO not many. I like loads more, but I've kept it to groups that I think changed our musical tastes. Groups like AC/DC are great, but I never even listened to them till a few years ago. Geatful Dead? Zappa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth2W Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 The best ? About a ton we can cite here easily, but the music died in 1978. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 Here is a link to a motorbike site, but within this link you'll find 1.000 plus songs and music videos from the 60s, 70s, 80, 90, 00, 10s. http://www.mototuneusa.com/break_in_secrets.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Air Smiles Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) On 29/12/2017 at 10:58 AM, thaibeachlovers said: I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Check this from 1969 ...as well as page's demonic guitar the drumming is on another level. Edited January 2, 2018 by Air Smiles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted January 2, 2018 Author Share Posted January 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, The manic said: Geatful Dead? Zappa? Refused to listen to Greatful Dead. Thankfully, no golden oldies channel plays them. Only Zappa song I liked was "Don't eat yellow snow" and that wasn't for the music . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted January 2, 2018 Share Posted January 2, 2018 On 12/29/2017 at 5:58 PM, thaibeachlovers said: I hated Led Zep, but never mind. Such a shame about Karen. Really, really sad that she left us so young. IMO the singers/ bands that actually had world changing significance were ( in no particular order ) Jefferson Airplane, Peter Paul and Mary, The Seekers, Elvis, Simon and Garfunkel, Bob Dylan, Prince, Neil Young, Janice Joplin, The Beatles/ Rolling Stones ( two sides of the same coin ), Hendrix, Pink Floyd, Santana, Fleetwood Mac, SuperTramp, Tom Petty, Elton John, The Who, Roy Orbison, The Doors, The Eagles, U2 ( I hate everything they ever made, but they were big ), Michael Jackson, Bowie, Beach Boys, Cream, Dire Straits. Probably a few I've missed, but IMO not many. I like loads more, but I've kept it to groups that I think changed our musical tastes. Groups like AC/DC are great, but I never even listened to them till a few years ago. Some really good artists there, but IMO some are far from world changing. Abba, Grateful Dead, Zappa, Jimmy Cliff, all mentioned earlier, would belong to that category IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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