British man dies suddenly in Thailand one month after getting married

[webfact]

Local man dies suddenly in Thailand one month after getting married

by Lindsey Hamilton

 

Stuart Diamond, 62, died three days before he was due to travel home to spend Christmas in Scotland. //Evening Standard

 

A Tayside man has died suddenly in Thailand just a month after getting married.

 

Stuart Diamond, 62, died three days before he was due to travel home to spend Christmas and New Year with his family in Scotland. Paying tribute from her home in Blairgowrie, his daughter Michelle Pol, 37, said the family were shocked and devastated.

 

She said the cause of her dad’s death was still not known.

 

Full story: https://www.eveningtelegraph.co.uk/fp/local-man-dies-suddenly-thailand-one-month-getting-married/

 

-- Evening Telegraph 2017-12-29

[Face Rip]

12 minutes ago, webfact said:

She said the cause of her dad’s death was still not known

 

Well that's the thing.

 

It's not the fact that he died but how he died and whether we will really know the true cause.. how long does an autopsy take to conduct anyways? 

 

Oh wait there was a cremation 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Face Rip

[bendejo]

She said the cause of her dad’s death was still not known.

Michelle added: “Because of distance and language barrier, we are still waiting for confirmation of the cause of his death.

“All we know is he became ill a few days before and ended up in hospital where he died on December 20.

“His funeral took place on Christmas Eve, the day after he had been due to travel home.

“In keeping with Thai culture, dad was cremated.

 

Cause of death still unknown, and the body has been cremated.  ????

 

 

[Nong Khai Man]

Suspicious ???

[Just1Voice]

Doesn't say how old the new Thai wife was?  If a lot younger, and a lot of Mattress Mambo was involved, that might explain things.  Or a large insurance policy in the new wife's name.  Don't mean to sound cynical, but this sort of thing is common in the Land of Fake Smiles. 

 

[tracker1]

Unfortunately many foreigners seem to die in Thailand !

[ratcatcher]

Just now, Nong Khai Man said:

Suspicious ???

Very!    And not too many details as to his circumstances, connections, here in Thailand other than his recent marriage to an Udon girl..  

[ratcatcher]

3 minutes ago, Just1Voice said:

Doesn't say how old the new Thai wife was?  If a lot younger, and a lot of Mattress Mambo was involved, that might explain things.  Or a large insurance policy in the new wife's name.  Don't mean to sound cynical, but this sort of thing is common in the Land of Fake Smiles. 

May sound cynical to some, but also very realistic.

[CanuckThai]

Strange rules reporting cause of death and an appropriate autopsy.  RIP

 

Question: Is an autopsy automatically provided by Thai medical authorities upon a death?  Or does it have to be requested and paid for by the deceased's family?  

[zakk9]

6 minutes ago, CanuckThai said:

Strange rules reporting cause of death and an appropriate autopsy.  RIP

 

Question: Is an autopsy automatically provided by Thai medical authorities upon a death?  Or does it have to be requested and paid for by the deceased's family?  

If a foreigner dies at home in Thailand, an autopsy is automatic, and the family won't get the body until the report has been made. As far as I know, the autopsy is always performed at the Police Hospital in Bangkok. This guy however seems to have died in a hospital. Then it's the hospital that is responsible for the death certificate. Whatever they get from that hospital, I doubt it's worth much, regardless what the cause of death was. "Heart failure" is the preferred cause of death in Thailand....

[evadgib]

If proper procedure has been followed a formal letter of release from the Embassy will have been issued to his legal next of kin which they then copy and give to a number of people/organisations inc:

 

- The Hospital (release of mortal remains)

- Police (investigating officer/criminal proceedings if any/pers effects)

- Tessaban (in order to issue a death cert)

- Temple (authority to burn)

 

If any of the above is circumvented concerned parties should at the very least be suspicious...

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by evadgib

[StayinThailand2much]

23 minutes ago, Nong Khai Man said:

Suspicious ???

Sudden death of a foreigner in Thailand? Noooooooooooooooo... 

 

May he rest in peace.

[lincolnshire poacher]

15 minutes ago, zakk9 said:

If a foreigner dies at home in Thailand, an autopsy is automatic, and the family won't get the body until the report has been made. As far as I know, the autopsy is always performed at the Police Hospital in Bangkok. This guy however seems to have died in a hospital. Then it's the hospital that is responsible for the death certificate. Whatever they get from that hospital, I doubt it's worth much, regardless what the cause of death was. "Heart failure" is the preferred cause of death in Thailand....

Or suicide

[Kerryd]

According to posts on his wife's Facebook page, he was in the hospital in Udon Thani when he died. The doctors apparently

diagnosed him with Dengue Fever. He went into a coma and died on 20 Dec. It appears they did the cremation at her home village on the 25th (looks like it was at 3 day ceremony at least).

Edited December 29, 2017 by Kerryd

[Tilacme]

Very sad, I don't suppose the truth will be known, RIP Stuart.

[Enoon]

33 minutes ago, Kerryd said:

According to posts on his wife's Facebook page, he was in the hospital in Udon Thani when he died. The doctors apparently

diagnosed him with Dengue Fever. He went into a coma and died on 20 Dec. It appears they did the cremation at her home village on the 25th (looks like it was at 3 day ceremony at least).

 

Bugger, there goes 10 mins of typing an argument for an unsuspicious death.  Well done anyway.

 

Never mind, I can still use this:

 

The cause of death was/is known to the various agencies involved and to his next of kin......his Thai wife.

 

That being the case it was perfectly reasonable for the cremation to take place.

 

Apparently it was not thought necessary to get an OK from TVF contributors first.

 

(It wouldn't have hurt for anyone to have read the newspaper article and discovered that his 19 years of Thailand experience is unlikely to have made of him a "lamb to the slaughter")

 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by Enoon

[johncat1]

Viagara strikes again ?

[ratcatcher]

1 minute ago, johncat1 said:

Viagara strikes again ?

Viagara fools?

[observer90210]

The usual golden rule...never league anything whatsoever to anybody in Thailand, if one is to pass away.  It is all a matter to be worth more alive then dead.

 

RIP

[TVGerry]

Dude was 62 and probably married a local younger than his daughter. Could be foul play or maybe it’s just some old guy who had more sex in a month than he did his whole life and his poor heart gave out.

[sanemax]

2 minutes ago, TVGerry said:

Dude was 62 and probably married a local younger than his daughter. Could be foul play or maybe it’s just some old guy who had more sex in a month than he did his whole life and his poor heart gave out.

Way too many "probablys" , "coulds" and "maybes" and assumptions in that post

[saakura]

How old was the wife ? Did she have any brother ?

 

Edited December 29, 2017 by saakura

[Aussieroaming]

RIP, hope the last month was a good one

[sanemax]

4 minutes ago, saakura said:

How old was the wife ? Did she have any brother ?

 

All together now : *That wasnt her brother , That was her boyfriend"

[FritsSikkink]

3 hours ago, StayinThailand2much said:

Sudden death of a foreigner in Thailand? Noooooooooooooooo... 

 

May he rest in peace.

It wasn't sudden , he spend a couple of days in the hospital

[Coconutman]

4 hours ago, zakk9 said:

If a foreigner dies at home in Thailand, an autopsy is automatic, and the family won't get the body until the report has been made. As far as I know, the autopsy is always performed at the Police Hospital in Bangkok. This guy however seems to have died in a hospital. Then it's the hospital that is responsible for the death certificate. Whatever they get from that hospital, I doubt it's worth much, regardless what the cause of death was. "Heart failure" is the preferred cause of death in Thailand....

Wallet failure caused heart failure

[Coconutman]

I doubt she got much.

[smedly]

4 hours ago, ratcatcher said:

May sound cynical to some, but also very realistic.

well you won't know until and autopsy is carried out, very few details given..........many sudden deaths require investigation when the actually cause is not obvious.

 

PS - and it seems in this case he was ill in hospital

Edited December 29, 2017 by smedly

[jaltsc]

"...man has died suddenly in Thailand just a month after getting married."

That's not a headline. It's a Thai Cliche. 

Edited December 29, 2017 by jaltsc

[Spaniel]

4 hours ago, CanuckThai said:

Strange rules reporting cause of death and an appropriate autopsy.  RIP

 

Question: Is an autopsy automatically provided by Thai medical authorities upon a death?  Or does it have to be requested and paid for by the deceased's family?  

From what I have been told whenever a falang dies in Thailand  not in a hospital a autopsy is performed.   Who pays for it, I don't know.