Emergency passport extension?

[torhammer]

I am going to Thailand on emergency passport. The validity is 12 months. 

I only get 30 days visa free on arrival at Bangkok. But can I go to the embassy in Laos and get visa extension for 90 days? Or do I have to come back to Europe within 30 days?

[ubonjoe]

You can get a 30 day extension at immigration for a fee of 1900 baht.

Or you could apply for a single entry tourist visa in Vientiane that would allow a 60 day entry that can be extended for 30 days.

[torhammer]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

You can get a 30 day extension at immigration for a fee of 1900 baht.

Or you could apply for a single entry tourist visa in Vientiane that would allow a 60 day entry that can be extended for 30 days.

So that means it is no problem for me to go to the nearest embassy and get 60 days visa with ext of 30 days even tough I have emergency passport?

[JackThompson]

3 hours ago, torhammer said:

So that means it is no problem for me to go to the nearest embassy and get 60 days visa with ext of 30 days even tough I have emergency passport?

That is wholly dependent on the stipulations of your emergency-passport by the issuing country.  In some cases, they operate basically identically to a regular passport.  In other cases, they are called an "Emergency Travel Document," and can only be used for a trip home. 

 

Be aware that some countries have a "6-mo remaining validity" rule, which could also affect your plans in a relatively short time. 

 

If not planning to head back to your home country soon, would it be possible for you to apply for a permanent passport, from your embassy in Bangkok, after arrival in Thailand?

[torhammer]

5 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

That is wholly dependent on the stipulations of your emergency-passport by the issuing country.  In some cases, they operate basically identically to a regular passport.  In other cases, they are called an "Emergency Travel Document," and can only be used for a trip home. 

 

Be aware that some countries have a "6-mo remaining validity" rule, which could also affect your plans in a relatively short time. 

 

If not planning to head back to your home country soon, would it be possible for you to apply for a permanent passport, from your embassy in Bangkok, after arrival in Thailand?

 

That is what I want. I want to apply for a permanent passport at the Norwegian embassy in Bangkok. But I am not sure if I can do that when I already have a emergancy passport.

I will attach how a norwegian emergancy passport looks like here. I never heard of a emergancy travel document before, I dont think we have that in my country.
 

[JackThompson]

6 minutes ago, torhammer said:

That is what I want. I want to apply for a permanent passport at the Norwegian embassy in Bangkok. But I am not sure if I can do that when I already have a emergancy passport.

I am only personally familiar with US Passport procedures.  I would suggest you call your Embassy for a definitive answer regarding both travel with what you have, and replacement with a permanent passport.

[torhammer]

11 minutes ago, JackThompson said:

I am only personally familiar with US Passport procedures.  I would suggest you call your Embassy for a definitive answer regarding both travel with what you have, and replacement with a permanent passport.

 

Is it possible for Americans to get visa extension at the thai embassy in Laos if you have emergancy passport?

[BritTim]

Emergency passport and emergency travel document mean much the same thing. The term "laissez passer" is also sometimes used. Usually, inside the emergency passport, there is information outlining the restrictions. This may include a list of countries for which the passport is valid. Whether an actual restriction or not, the emergency passport is only really intended to allow essential travel you must undertake before you can arrange an ordinary passport.

[torhammer]

2 minutes ago, BritTim said:

Emergency passport and emergency travel document mean much the same thing. The term "laissez passer" is also sometimes used. Usually, inside the emergency passport, there is information outlining the restrictions. This may include a list of countries for which the passport is valid. Whether an actual restriction or not, the emergency passport is only really intended to allow essential travel you must undertake before you can arrange an ordinary passport.

Well this must mean that the Nor. Emb in Norway is obligated to provide me a permanent passport if I apply. Or am I wrong?

[BritTim]

3 minutes ago, torhammer said:

Well this must mean that the Nor. Emb in Norway is obligated to provide me a permanent passport if I apply. Or am I wrong?

Assuming you will be in Thailand for long enough, you should be issued with a replacement ordinary passport while here. Usually, if you are here on an emergency passport, they will try to expedite issuing it, but there will still be a minimum length of time the application will take, and you will need the appropriate supporting documents. Expect it to be harder than when you have an existing ordinary passport being renewed.

[mstevens]

28 minutes ago, torhammer said:

Well this must mean that the Nor. Emb in Norway is obligated to provide me a permanent passport if I apply. Or am I wrong?

This is a case where you really should contact the embassy or the authority in your country which issues passports / emergency passports.  The last thing you want is troubles travelling because your documents aren't right so get in touch with the relevant authority about it.

[NanLaew]

It appears that there are delays getting a full Norwegian passport due to increased demand (they are issued by the police?) so there's an increasing amount of emergency passports being issued in Norway.

 

Assuming the OP is in Norway and not the recipient of an emergency passport to replace a lost or stolen full passport in a third country, I can only suggest that he contact the Norwegian Embassy in Bangkok directly to see if getting a full passport on an emergency one is allowed. If the emergency passport has been issued in lieu of a full passport application that is still being processed, I think it would be unlikely.

 

The Embassy website indicates that they primarily issue emergency passports and that full passports can take around 2 weeks.

 

The UDI website is similarly light on specifics of validity.

 

Another thing is to consider if the airlines will have an issue with it although if it still has 1 -year validity, it should be OK.

 

However, since the emergency passport is not an electronic, e-readable type document, other countries may not accept it, like Laos or even Thailand.

[torhammer]

It is said that if you lose your passport, then you can apply for a new permanent passport at the norwegian embassy. I can not understand why that would also mean if you also lose your emergency passport.

 

Yes, there is not information regarding this matter, maybe because they don't want to make it easy for people without a regular passport. But I would be amazed if they say no for me to apply for a regular passport in a embassy that hand out new passport every day.

 

I'll contact them in a few hours. 

[AlQaholic]

I just recently got an emergency passport in Malaysia, the Swedish Embassy. A requirement informed to me by the Swedish Embassy, I must obtain a visa at the Thai embassy, visa on arrival was not an option with emergency passport. I was able to obtain a visa at the Thai Embassy to enter Thailand, but only because I could show a copy of my previous passport and work permit, showing that I live in Thailand. Furthermore, I had to obtain a permit to leave the country using the emergency passport at the Malaysian foreign ministry. 

So I doubt you will be allowed to enter Thailand on the emergency passport, and if you were allowed, you would not be allowed to enter Laos. Where ever you are presently, you must get a visa from the Thai embassy before you travel to Thailand. I have some doubt the airline will let you board on an emergency passport without a visa.

 

Just saw this by NanLaew, thank you:

"It appears that there are delays getting a full Norwegian passport due to increased demand (they are issued by the police?) so there's an increasing amount of emergency passports being issued in Norway"

If the passport is indeed issued in Norway, should check with Thai Embassy if can travel to Thailand on it, or maybe OP already know the answer to this? remains to find out if an extension is possible on an emergency pass, Thai Embassy should be able to answer. I still maintain that travelling out from Thailand to any other destination will be difficult.

[ubonjoe]

3 minutes ago, AlQaholic said:

A requirement informed to me by the Swedish Embassy, I must obtain a visa at the Thai embassy, visa on arrival was not an option with emergency passport. 

I think that was incorrect information. For one thing a citizen of Sweden gets a visa exempt entry not a 15 day visa on arrival.

You can use a emergency passport enter the country visa exempt since you are a Swedish citizen.

Those who have a travel document issued by a country that qualifies for a visa exempt entry and are not a citizen of that country cannot use it to get a visa exempt entry. 
 

[AlQaholic]

11 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

I think that was incorrect information. For one thing a citizen of Sweden gets a visa exempt entry not a 15 day visa on arrival.

You can use a emergency passport enter the country visa exempt since you are a Swedish citizen.

Those who have a travel document issued by a country that qualifies for a visa exempt entry and are not a citizen of that country cannot use it to get a visa exempt entry. 
 

Well, considering the difficulty in obtaining a visa at the Thai embassy, getting it only after proving that I live in Thailand for a long time, I tend to believe what the embassy said. I think an emergency passport is not a valid travel document other than getting you back home. Attested also by the need to obtain a stamp from the Malaysian foreign ministry to get permission to leave Malaysia using the emergency passport. And I had to do a hell of lot of explaining when I entered Thailand before they gave me a stamp to stay for 3 months.

But I of course cannot say if the Norwegian emergency pass shown in OPs picture is a valid travel document or not.

[AlQaholic]

I just made a bit more of an effort to check. apparently, Norwegian emergency passports are issued for one trip only to the destination stated in the passport. 

However, according to this Norwegian article: https://www.nrk.no/hordaland/kan-bli-nekta-utreise-med-naudpass-1.11838122 from 2014, a bit old admittedly, some countries do not accept the passport, these include USA, Turkey, China and Dubai, according to the article.

So I would advise checking with the Thai Embassy, just in case.

[Suradit69]

11 hours ago, torhammer said:

Is it possible for Americans to get visa extension at the thai embassy in Laos if you have emergancy passport?

You're confusing terms.

 

If you go to a Thai embassy or consulate outside Thailand, you would be applying for a visa. There is no such thing as a "visa extension."

 

If you enter Thailand on a visa exempt entry or a tourist visa, you would be given a 30 day (in the case of a visa exempt entry) or 60 day (on a tourist visa) permission to stay in Thailand. Towards the end of the permission to stay that you were given, you could go to an immigrations office inside Thailand and, in either case, apply for a 30 day extension of your original 30 or 60 day permission to remain in Thailand.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Suradit69]

1 hour ago, AlQaholic said:

some countries do not accept the passport, these include USA, Turkey, China and Dubai, according to the article.

Do they think Dubai is a country? Dubai is an emirate in the UAE.

[AlQaholic]

1 hour ago, Suradit69 said:

Do they think Dubai is a country? Dubai is an emirate in the UAE.

Naahh, they just discuss the point of entry, where it was reported somebody having difficulty.