webfact Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 PM accuses the media and politicians of trying to overthrow junta govt By THE NATION PM Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha takes photos with journalists at the Government House earlier this month PRIME MINISTER General Prayut Chan-o-cha accused the media and politicians of attempting to overthrow the junta government and the National Council for Peace and Order in a letter handed to Cabinet members on Tuesday. “They are currently problems,” Prayut wrote in the 12-page handwritten piece. “They want to return all laws and orders to how they were before. Some dishonest civil servants have also joined them.” Prayut also underlined the need to build “Thai Niyom” or “Thai-ism democracy”, which by his definition “has to be acceptable to all sides with mutual goals for sustainable peace based on honest and fair elections for a government with good governance”. “Don’t force me or the NCPO to fight with anyone,” he went on. “I want Thai people who want ‘Thai-ism democracy’ and shared ideology to bring about solutions. “No one can come to distort this. There are still people with ill-intent attempting to do so,” he wrote. Prayut urged the Cabinet to promote the upcoming election, including engaging as many young eligible voters as possible to cast their votes. “The 18-year-old young bloods, whether they like politics or not, should come out and vote,” he said. He also warned that the activities of ministers and high-ranking officials would affect their tri-monthly evaluation, starting this April, which would consequently affect a reshuffle decision at the end of the fiscal year in October. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30336514 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-01-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaAngel Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Oh sorry I thought the Junta had overthrown politicians and the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yea! You can't just go around overthrowing governments! Especially ones who weren't elected. Next thing people will be trying to do is vote this government out in some kind of fair election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Will he use this as a excuse to delay elections further. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, webfact said: Prayut also underlined the need to build “Thai Niyom” or “Thai-ism democracy” Yeap. You came out with a stupid idea which has an insidious meaning. People called it out for what it was. So what do you do? You double down on the idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chang_paarp Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 That is what democracy is about, changing governments on a regular basis with an election thrown in for good measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cadbury Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, webfact said: PM accuses the media and politicians of trying to overthrow junta govt So now according to the headline and the PM we have a group wanting to overthrow his government which previously overthrew an elected government. It's dog eat dog out there in the Thai political arena. Wonder which mongrel will win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mercman24 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 headline says it all realy JUNTA GOVERNMENT, minds like children , and they still cant see it, ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 those naughty bad people or just the people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orac Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, rkidlad said: Yeap. You came out with a stupid idea which has an insidious meaning. People called it out for what it was. So what do you do? You double down on the idea. I beleive he keeps the "Thai Niyom" definition in the same locked drawer as the illusive road map - nobody is allowed to actually see it and it is written very faintly in pencil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Of course the media and politicians want to over through the government. Duh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darcula Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, webfact said: PM accuses the media and politicians of trying to overthrow junta govt All this is a set-up for his Friday evening rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 He once threw a banana peel at reporters and has threatened to "probably execute" those who did not tell the truth, so maybe he should not expect too much sympathy from the media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Bring back the Shinawatra's and throw the Junta out, need some entertainment, sick of the tick tock debacle and others, besides, she pretty 555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4MyEgo Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 38 minutes ago, Cadbury said: So now according to the headline and the PM we have a group wanting to overthrow his government which previously overthrew an elected government. It's dog eat dog out there in the Thai political arena. Wonder which mongrel will win? Sounds like he has his G-string on back the front, nickers all hanging out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 He doesn't believe governments should be overthrown? How ironic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardColeman Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, webfact said: PM accuses the media and politicians of trying to overthrow junta govt Politicians trying to overthrow the government ? That's called the opposition in democratic Politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z42 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 This disgraceful charlatan makes me want to vomit every time he opens his mouth. I hope the students do vote because there are plenty who do already see this shit show of a regime for what it is. The Prawit cover up will be the thing that gets the poor riled I think. His greed and outright dishonesty at a time when the poor are doing it REALLY tough will be the final straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 This is so funny, just preform better and kick Prawit out to restore some of your credibility. Now you want to be a politician.. then your ruled by your popularity and that stems from your actions. The Prawit scandal is dragging him down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Becker Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, robblok said: This is so funny, just preform better and kick Prawit out to restore some of your credibility. Now you want to be a politician.. then your ruled by your popularity and that stems from your actions. The Prawit scandal is dragging him down. Well, I'll say that overthrowing a legal government, being the only junta government leader in the world, suspending basic human rights, putting people before military tribunals and jailing them without them having the right to legal representation nor appeal, being unusually rich yet denying anyone the right to look into the matter, constantly lying regarding your intentions etc, etc, etc is also a bit of a drag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: He also warned that the activities of ministers and high-ranking officials would affect their tri-monthly evaluation, starting this April, which would consequently affect a reshuffle decision at the end of the fiscal year in October. Why would you have a reshuffle in October when the election is the following month? Seems completely pointless, unless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Just now, Becker said: Well, I'll say that overthrowing a legal government, being the only junta government leader in the world, suspending basic human rights, putting people before military tribunals and jailing them without them having the right to legal representation nor appeal, being unusually rich yet denying anyone the right to look into the matter, constantly lying regarding your intentions etc, etc, etc is also a bit of a drag. Your right about that but before the Prawit and other scandals people here did not mind that as much. But now combine it with the scandals going on and how bad he is at playing a politician it all ads up. If he had shown that he was serious about reform and fighting corruption. People here would accept a military goverment. But he is just as bad as the corrupt politicians he was supposed to clean up. By not going after Prawit he lost so much credibility. Lost a lot before on his brother.. and nephew the development of that park and other scandals. The junta had a lot of potential to clean up a lot of stuff that normal governments did not want to or could not do. But they failed and failed miserably because they only went after stuff that did not effect them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, baboon said: Why would you have a reshuffle in October when the election is the following month? Seems completely pointless, unless... The whole dismissing is pointless if you take them back later as advisers (see news of yesterday or a few days ago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Becker said: Well, I'll say that overthrowing a legal government, being the only junta government leader in the world, suspending basic human rights, putting people before military tribunals and jailing them without them having the right to legal representation nor appeal, being unusually rich yet denying anyone the right to look into the matter, constantly lying regarding your intentions etc, etc, etc is also a bit of a drag. And yet he seems to think he has a perfect right to feel genuinely aggrieved that people want him and his junta out, despite the above. I truly find that difficult to comprehend. How can he think he could possibly make a go of civilian politics when all he can do is dish out the abuse and not take any in return? Is he that far out of touch with what politics is or just plain stupid? I mean, I am not even trying to be nasty with my questions. I genuinely would like to know what is going on in his head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Chang_paarp said: That is what democracy is about, changing governments on a regular basis with an election thrown in for good measure. But is that "Thai-ism democracy"? We have yet to see exactly what Prayut is talking about but I'm sure it's not what you have suggested. That's "real" democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 hour ago, webfact said: General Prayut Chan-o-cha accused the media and politicians of attempting to overthrow the junta government didnt realize his paranoia was that bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, robblok said: Your right about that but before the Prawit and other scandals people here did not mind that as much. But now combine it with the scandals going on and how bad he is at playing a politician it all ads up. If he had shown that he was serious about reform and fighting corruption. People here would accept a military goverment. But he is just as bad as the corrupt politicians he was supposed to clean up. By not going after Prawit he lost so much credibility. Lost a lot before on his brother.. and nephew the development of that park and other scandals. The junta had a lot of potential to clean up a lot of stuff that normal governments did not want to or could not do. But they failed and failed miserably because they only went after stuff that did not effect them. See? You could have saved 3 years of your life arguing on Thaivisa had you have only listened to what we in the anti-junta axis of evil were saying all along... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Good keep the pressure on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 1 minute ago, baboon said: See? You could have saved 3 years of your life arguing on Thaivisa had you have only listened to what we in the anti-junta axis of evil were saying all along... Yea yea.. I am now anti junta too or actually anti corruption like I have always been. Does not mean I will support the reds now all of a sudden. I will support people based on merit so if the PTP comes with a good idea i support it if the junta comes with a good idea i support it and not burn it because of who it came from. I like how the junta wants to lower bail for the poor so they can wait their sentencing out of jail like the rich. There are even things I like about the PTP too. They can all have good ideas and they can all do stupid / corrupt things. You have to understand if you looked at the coups in recent history (last 50 years or so) they never stayed as long in power as now. Usually a year no longer. So no way knowing it would be different this time. I said it before i felt it was justified to clean up the corruption and other problems with the previous government. Had they been cleaner i would not have supported a coup. But all they wanted was to get their master back. I would even support a coup to punish Prayut and Prawit (yea slow learner i know) but sometimes I just like to see corrupt people punished who would otherwise escape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, YetAnother said: didnt realize his paranoia was that bad Just hope that he don’t over react and made matters worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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