giddyup Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) I usually keep a 2 litre bottle of Montclair in the fridge for quaffing wine, went to pick up a bottle and it is now 530 baht instead of the previous 430 baht. Tried another shop, same price, 530 baht, that's a heck of an increase for an el cheapo wine. Good news is that the Castle Creek 2 litre hasn't been increased (as yet), still 430 baht. Edited January 21, 2018 by giddyup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theguyfromanotherforum Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I'd rather drink pizz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 37 minutes ago, theguyfromanotherforum said: I'd rather drink pizz I'm happy to oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Montclair benefited from previously being classed as a fruit juice, same as cider, so loads of money was made by wholesalers on the jacked-up prices they charged. The new tax regimen has correctly aligned these two tipples with being alcoholic beverages and taxed accordingly. If the wholesalers decide to pass the new tax increases 100% to retailers and consumers, it could be the end of boxed 'wine' and cider in LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, NanLaew said: Montclair benefited from previously being classed as a fruit juice, same as cider, so loads of money was made by wholesalers on the jacked-up prices they charged. The new tax regimen has correctly aligned these two tipples with being alcoholic beverages and taxed accordingly. If the wholesalers decide to pass the new tax increases 100% to retailers and consumers, it could be the end of boxed 'wine' and cider in LOS. Maybe it will happen across the board, but as I said, Castle Creek's price is still the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashionExport Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Montclair I prefer to drink my dog piss than this, but yes, it has increased to 399 a bottle and Marysol also. Really, if you have to drink a cheap "wine", try Marysol, it's a lot better thank Montclair. But lately you can find another cheap piss called Charles Strong that costs 199/bottle at Makro and that is not worse than Marysol (and of course better than Montclair). I am wondering who are the genius who decided to increase these cheap wines to 399 when the real increase because of tax raise was 309/bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amvet Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, FashionExport said: Montclair I prefer to drink my dog piss than this, but yes, it has increased to 399 a bottle and Marysol also. Really, if you have to drink a cheap "wine", try Marysol, it's a lot better thank Montclair. But lately you can find another cheap piss called Charles Strong that costs 199/bottle at Makro and that is not worse than Marysol (and of course better than Montclair). I am wondering who are the genius who decided to increase these cheap wines to 399 when the real increase because of tax raise was 309/bottle. PM me as my dog pisses twice a day on our walks I can supply you as much as you want at a very reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strikingsunset Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 shower of bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) It does not come any worse than MontClair. Castle Creek is much better. Don't say much for MontClair does it? Edited January 21, 2018 by Lite Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, giddyup said: Maybe it will happen across the board, but as I said, Castle Creek's price is still the same. Did you look at the date printed on those boxes? Most of them are almost a year old, that will explain why there is no price increase YET Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: Did you look at the date printed on those boxes? Most of them are almost a year old, that will explain why there is no price increase YET Correct. Older inventories will still attract the older tax rate. There's also wholesalers clearing inventories of old or less popular brands. The 'confusion' over the specifics and roll-out of the new excise rates end of last year was deliberate to prevent the stockpiling and gouging linked with tax hikes that is largely unmanageable due to nature of things in LOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naboo Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Saw it (2 litre Mont Clair) in Big C (Lamphun) for over 700B. Went to my trusted supplier, 449B as before. The Thais had better start making some drinkable wine. The stuff they produce is worse than what I make sticking some yeast in some grape juice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 35 minutes ago, janclaes47 said: Did you look at the date printed on those boxes? Most of them are almost a year old, that will explain why there is no price increase YET 2 litre bottle, not box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, giddyup said: 2 litre bottle, not box. They don't have dates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Apparently the details are in the tax sticker attached to bottles and boxes. This is somewhat confused by the importation and local re-packaging of wine-related products of foreign origin. AFAIK, the tax stickers also have different colors but ultimately, between the revenue department and the company that was given permission to do this repackaging shuffle, someone is pulling a fast one whilst the other turns a blind eye. But both are banking big time... or else they wouldn't be wasting their time on the whole exercise. Edited January 21, 2018 by NanLaew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
observer90210 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Hop into any short haul plane from BKK and spend your money for the weekend in one of the more welcoming neighbouring countries...perhaps only then will they perhaps learn, but it will take much time !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denim Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 4 hours ago, FashionExport said: Montclair I prefer to drink my dog piss than this, but yes, it has increased to 399 a bottle and Marysol also. Really, if you have to drink a cheap "wine", try Marysol, it's a lot better thank Montclair. But lately you can find another cheap piss called Charles Strong that costs 199/bottle at Makro and that is not worse than Marysol (and of course better than Montclair). I am wondering who are the genius who decided to increase these cheap wines to 399 when the real increase because of tax raise was 309/bottle. Dog piss .....would that be Chateau Yeeomah ? Rather you than me. As an alternative to Montclair I just bought 10 litres of supposed Italian fruit wine, Casa Romeo Rosso , in two 5 litre glass jugs for 725 baht a pop each from Tesco......which is actually the cheapest stuff out there and no worse for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1337markus Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Noted at Rimping and Macro outlets in the last week all boxed wine has increased 100 baht in price. Maybe they sold old stock after the new increase in alcohol tax came in some months ago at old price, meaning new stock is taxed higher? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prakhonchai nick Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 BIG C 5 litre boxes of Australian red GOSSIPS for 899bt Quite acceptable plonk, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, prakhonchai nick said: BIG C 5 litre boxes of Australian red GOSSIPS for 899bt Quite acceptable plonk, Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 hours ago, janclaes47 said: They don't have dates? That's right, no date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeke Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Is it just me, or does Montclair have a lot more calories as I seem to gain weight with this stuff? Thus, I stopped drinking it and pay a little more for another South African or Australian wine. I am from California in the states, so I love California wines buy waaaay too expensive in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 10 minutes ago, likeke said: Is it just me, or does Montclair have a lot more calories as I seem to gain weight with this stuff? Thus, I stopped drinking it and pay a little more for another South African or Australian wine. I am from California in the states, so I love California wines buy waaaay too expensive in Thailand. A bottle of Jacobs Creek red in a 7/11 is nearly 800 baht (A$32), in Australia it's around $9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henryford Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) I just bought a 10 litre box of Mont Clair in Tesco, 1499 baht, same price as before. Maybe old stock ? Edited January 22, 2018 by Henryford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaurene Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 I have not found Montclare increase in price. Check the price of the normal size bottle and the half size bottle. See how much the 700ml is and multiply by 3 this works sometimes. Many times I have bought 2 small for the equivalen large one in weight & size and the smaller ones have worked out cheaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FashionExport Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 14 minutes ago, shaurene said: I have not found Montclare increase in price. Check the price of the normal size bottle and the half size bottle. See how much the 700ml is and multiply by 3 this works sometimes. Many times I have bought 2 small for the equivalen large one in weight & size and the smaller ones have worked out cheaper. Wrong. 1 half bottle montclair price was 159 thb 1 75cl montclair price was 309 thb not new monclair 75cl price is 399 thb. Anyway, strop talking about montclair, I am about to throw out :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lagavulin1 Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 22 hours ago, giddyup said: Maybe it will happen across the board, but as I said, Castle Creek's price is still the same. 388 in Udon Big C. The 3 litre and 5 litre boxes seem to have disappeared though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue bruce Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 the price of most cheap wines like montclair went up 100 baht from 299 to 399 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickudon Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 In Tesco's in Udon Montclair 2 litre bottles now 749 baht, similar price in makro and BigC. They have a different colour tax label now. Peter Vella, Castle Creek still old prices (Peter Vella 799 baht 4 litre box). I understand home brewing has become very popular last month or 2 ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted January 25, 2018 Author Share Posted January 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, rickudon said: In Tesco's in Udon Montclair 2 litre bottles now 749 baht, similar price in makro and BigC. They have a different colour tax label now. Peter Vella, Castle Creek still old prices (Peter Vella 799 baht 4 litre box). I understand home brewing has become very popular last month or 2 ...... 749 baht. That's 300 baht more than they used to be! I thought an increase of 100 baht to 530 baht was bad enough. You sure you are talking the 2 litre bottle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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