Last note from murdered Italian to Thai wife: "You said it was love. But you just wanted my money"

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, MaeJoMTB said:

You mean there are women who aren't like this?

And you've met one?

I certainly haven't and I've been looking for 50 odd years.

 

 

Hey, David Attenborough has shown that even chimpanzees sell sex, a bit of torn off monkey leg and they'll do anything.

[mikiea]

8 hours ago, thedemon said:

So this couple have been arrested and they have fled west. Right.

the dude looks a little swishy and at the same time looks like her ....

[jenny2017]

2 hours ago, Thaidream said:

It is really hard to judge how often this happens. 
There have been some horrible cases of murder reported in Thailand involving situations like this and of course they make big news. We really don't hear of the 'good'marriages because there is nothing newsworthy about normal situations.

I do know this- that most cross cultural marriages end in divorce. It is extremely hard for both parties to adjust to different cultural idiosyncrasies.I am also certain that Thai girls working in a bar are not the best life partners to seek. Don't get me wrong- I understand completely why they work there but long term bar girls pick up all the bad habits of their customers and they experience a cultural change that is hard to overcome. Then you add in the age difference and language/communication problems small issues become exaggerated.

 

After 3 marriages to Thais- 1 has been good ; another pretty good and another horrid-  I would not necessarily recommend a cross cultural marriage unless both parties speak excellent Thai/and the girl speaks good English and is willing to learn a third language if English is not native. In addition- a lengthy engagement is necessary to see if there is compatibility.

 

After almost 5 decades in Thailand- I can say for sure that this case is an exception- normally marriages or relationships do not end in murder but there are plenty that end in heartache and despair.  RIP to the deceased and may anyone associated with the murder get the harsh justice they deserve.

 

Maybe the French guy had the idea to get rid of the poor guy, but in my opinion these Thai ladies usually know the creme de la' creme' of all sorts of Thai gangster, of course always in need of money.

 

            A life in lower northeast isn't worth a lot. There are people who do such a job for 15-25 K. Happened here before with a gun that people could rent with three bullets.

[jenny2017]

14 minutes ago, maximillian said:

In my case there is a 22 year gap. Right from the start I loved my wife but was somehow cautious until she won the jackpot in the lottery. All of a sudden she was much better off than myself. I expected the worst but after almost eight years she is still with me.

 

Edit:

It's a true story, except the jackpot never happened and I'm still sponsoring my sweetheart and she is giving me a good time most of the time.

 

Is it possible that there's a huge difference if you are 42, or 67? 

[MaeJoMTB]

8 hours ago, giddyup said:

21 year age gap between me and my Thai partner, nearly 9 years together, is that long enough to guarantee she genuinely wants to stay, or is she in it for the "long haul"?  She's going to get just about everything when I cark it, so maybe she's just the patient type?

#MeToo

And we have children together (DNA tested), but I know I'm paying a reasonable price for a product she's selling.

If she met a guy that would pay her more she'd be off, just like that.

But she isn't my partner, she's my hired wife.

Edited January 23, 2018 by MaeJoMTB

[jenny2017]

A pimp's thoughts: "No honey, no money."

[Kadilo]

50 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Well we all have our stories and experiences, 

Yep. And most of them on here are stories. 

[Kadilo]

20 minutes ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I think he's more talking about guys from me.

Guys running away from the woman they loved all there adult life, who suddenly turned on them and tried to destroy and harm them, throwing their children and life times assets on the bonfire during the process.

Good job you ain't bitter 

[MaeJoMTB]

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

Good job you ain't bitter 

I accept women for what they are.

[Kadilo]

1 minute ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I accept women for what they are.

Or how you see the ones you've been with. 

[maximillian]

15 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

Is it possible that there's a huge difference if you are 42, or 67? 

68 : 46

[smotherb]

2 hours ago, CGW said:

I would tend to disagree, have you ever seen a Thai couple truly in love by western standards? Thai men, especially among Thai women are not renowned to for being the greatest catch.

Many of the men folk that do arrive here are already traumatized due to western society, the upheaval that bought them to Thailand in the first place etc, they are looking for a partner and indeed are easily fooled.

 

Yes, I have seen Thais in love. However, my post was referring to Thai women in love with farangs.

[bander]

8 hours ago, HooHaa said:

speak for yourself.

all of my thai partners have been fine.

And how many partners is that.....if I may ask?

[gamini]

9 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

Was talking to a girl off one of the dating sites and she agreed to meet me in my apartment.  She was already on her way on the BTS and I mentioned offhand that my room had no aircon because she said it was hot outside.  She cancelled there and then and never spoke to me again.

 

Another girl we were going to go down to the south islands for a trip and she asked me where we would stay.  I said I don't care where I stay when I go on a trip because I don't spend much time in the hotel.  She suggested a 3700 baht a night place with a jacuzzi.  I countered with an 800 baht a night hotel (steep by my standards actually).  She cancelled the trip.

 

It's easy to suss out the golddiggers.

Maybe they don't like cheapskates

[samsensam]

4 minutes ago, gamini said:

Maybe they don't like cheapskates

 

they like mugs.

[Donotdisturb]

8 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

 

I didn't have AC at that apartment.  My current place has AC but I rarely use it because if a girl asks to switch it on I ask her for 10 baht at which point she leaves.

Behold: quality tourist Thailand 4.0 ??

[sklmeeera]

Just for money . Flabbergasting how foolish these idiots are . 

Edited January 23, 2018 by sklmeeera

[sklmeeera]

28 minutes ago, gamini said:

Maybe they don't like cheapskates

No they are just after the farangs money . Goldiggers they are called . You married to one by any chance ?

[isaanbanhou]

3 hours ago, SupermarineS6B said:

      "Where there's water there's fish, and where there's money there's women"....... As me mother used to say, "Put on the table what's on it, then you can talk"......Or in Thailand...... " No money, no honey "  ....... RIP for the victim......

 Do you think growing up in a home where there was no money has coloured your view?

 

Or there was money but your mother was an admitted gold digger?

 

 

[isaanbanhou]

1 hour ago, MaeJoMTB said:

I accept women for what they are.

 

I' m sure your mother is happy that you have such a high opinion of women, she must have been a "saint"

 

You claim to have a 19 year old daughter.   Is your opinion of her is that she will be a rent a wife as well?

 

What a sad way to live in my opinion, surrounded by hookers

 

 

[mauGR1]

Shame on the murderers, hope they get what they deserve.

RIP Mr. De Stefani.

Unfortunately , our 'developed" competitive societies have made us so hungry for love and affection, that many of us fall prey of unscrupolous women in Thailand, and other countries.

All it needs for them is just smile and open their legs.

The solution is simple, never think with the small head.. But it's not that easy sometimes.

[SupermarineS6B]

24 minutes ago, isaanbanhou said:

 Do you think growing up in a home where there was no money has coloured your view?

 

Or there was money but your mother was an admitted gold digger?

 

 

Now now, don't get brave with your half witted tripe or i might find you and introduce you to fear....... Actually i come from money, hard earned i might add, and as for my mother, watch your mouth sunshine.......half wit !  

[isaanbanhou]

9 minutes ago, SupermarineS6B said:

Now now, don't get brave with your half witted tripe or i might find you and introduce you to fear....... Actually i come from money, hard earned i might add, and as for my mother, watch your mouth sunshine.......half wit !  

 

Well how did your mother end up with such a low opinion of women?

 

As to introducing me to fear.  5555  you are not just a marine, you are supermarine  555

[neeray]

I guess Lady Luck has blessed me. I have been involved with nothing but quality Thai ladies. No matter the country, all types exist. Much depends on how/where you first meet a potential partner and how the relationship develops from there. 

[mdmayes]

RIP...

[Acemaker]

12 hours ago, isaanbanhou said:

relationship advice or an excerpt from a dog training manual?

Er, no its just good common sense advice, seems like you have been burnt more than once , Ahh,  the bitterness shows thru.

[mauGR1]

1 hour ago, isaanbanhou said:

 

Well how did your mother end up with such a low opinion of women?

 

As to introducing me to fear.  5555  you are not just a marine, you are supermarine  555

It's not a "low" opinion, but rather close to reality.

Apparently the women very much in general, are wired to take as much advantage as they can from the men in general.

..Read Briffault's law..https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/machiavellians-gulling-the-rubes/201610/briffaults-law-women-rule

Edited January 23, 2018 by mauGR1

[Acemaker]

11 hours ago, Enoon said:

 

Probably best to assume that, at the very least, money plays a "significant part" in the attraction that males have (in most societies) for women.

 

Sorry to those fellows whose vanity, like the vanity of the central character (Verloc) in Conrads novel "The Secret Agent", leads them to believe themselves loved entirely for......."themselves".

 

Do not take it too personally if her love falters and she finds a better deal, it's just "business".

 

 

How sad.

[Acemaker]

10 hours ago, sklmeeera said:

It should be noted that most farang men judging by their appearance and manner are unlikely to find any woman in the west so its all the more obvious that the Thai women are just after their money .

Sorry, thats Ballcocks.

Edited January 23, 2018 by Acemaker

[timendres]

Page 15, sigh...

 

Any relationship, business or personal, is entered into for mutual benefit. In a personal relationship, the complexity is immeasurable. However, for the sake of simplicity, let's talk about two general types: one for emotional benefits (love, respect, connection, family, etc.), and the other being not the first. Either relationship is entirely valid. As long as both parties understand the foundation of that relationship and are happy with it.

 

I fully understand the guys here who are looking for a woman they can love and grow with. And I fully understand those who are looking for a woman who simply provides "service". What will make any of those relationships work is honesty, mutual understanding, and well managed expectations.

 

Personally, I have had the loving family experience, and that is all behind me now. At this point in my life, I am more interested in a girl who satisfies more "physical" comforts and brings the least complications. The benefit I offer in return is financial. Call it cold and heartless if you wish, but it is nothing of the sort. I am always honest and clear about it, and the relationships work out fine, for the time that they do. I never expect a life-long commitment, and I am always prepared for the end.

 

People will call the girls I get involved with "gold diggers", but that is a poor description. These are practical girls who see the opportunity to better their lot in life and are grateful to do so with no pretense or ill feelings. The smart girls are happy that they have no need to pretend to love me, and that I show them the respect they deserve.

 

The interesting thing is that in almost every case, feelings do begin to develop over time, and in some ways complicate the arrangement. But honest communication keeps an even keel.

 

Everyone is different, living at a given stage of life, and in a context brought about by their history. No two relationships are the same, and judging any of them is hubris.  Be honest to yourself. Understand your needs and hers. Make sure you are on the same page. Enjoy the time.