Thaivisa exclusive: Norwegian man 'framed by Thai cops' says he has proof of innocence - he was in prison at the time of the crime

[Tony125]

5 hours ago, hottrader77 said:

although some of his story may be true , I still think there is something he is hiding , such as how did he get 10 million baht ? he could have been a drug dealer in thailand and had a gun which could have been his own as a way of defending himself , also where was he when his wife was pregnant , if he was in jail for another offence ( undisclosed offence ) could have been for dealing drugs would you want him in your country if he was doing this ? also he tried to pay off police ( bribary ) he says he was innocent so why try pay police off , there is alot of smoke here without the fire , and he must have put alot of assets in his wifes name ( big mistake )) a person with his wealth should know better but maybe he did it because he wanted to hide things , he is now in bohol and supposed to be living on 3000 usd a month but yet he has money to go to the gym if i was desperate for funds i would do my fitness free of charge , jogging on fields or main roads , situps on beaches or in the back yard but no he pays to keep fi with no money ( something does not fit this story ) sorry keep him deported is my judgement on him , there are corrupt police here but its people like him that makes them corrupt as he admitted trying to corrupt them by offering money to them and his kid will be better off without a scruppulous person like him 

As many posters have replied to your post as they can't believe it. You asked "how did he get 10 mil baht"  Maybe you are not aware of the high incomes in Norway, the country is considered one of the best in the world economically  even higher than my country USA . And being retired he could have easily sold a property and moved here with a lot more than 10 mil baht. He maybe lives in the Phill rather than go back to Norway as he would like to remain relatively close to Thailand and enjoy the warm weather and even cheaper cost of living in the Phillippines As far as the fitness gym why not pay for it. On $3,000 USD a month he can live very well in Phill and it wouldn't cost that much for gym.  Yes he was stupid to put all assets in his wife's name but it has happened many times. Google " Ian Rance "  or  " Colin Vard " they lost a lot more than 10 mil baht.

Edited January 25, 2018 by Tony125

[colinneil]

4 minutes ago, smew said:

Like I said: age diff of 10yrs might work out but once you get into +15 yrs diff and you are asking for headaches that will come sooner or later.... simple only a matter of time.....

Sorry but i disagree with you, i am 20 years older than my 2nd Thai wife.

We are perfectly happy together.

If as you say headaches will come sooner or later, she would have left me when i was 7 months in hospital, and told i would never walk again.

She has been my rock, pushing me, encouraging me, washes, cleans, basically does everything for me.

 

[PerkinsCuthbert]

5 hours ago, hottrader77 said:

although some of his story may be true , I still think there is something he is hiding , such as how did he get 10 million baht ? he could have been a drug dealer in thailand and had a gun which could have been his own as a way of defending himself , also where was he when his wife was pregnant , if he was in jail for another offence ( undisclosed offence ) could have been for dealing drugs would you want him in your country if he was doing this ? also he tried to pay off police ( bribary ) he says he was innocent so why try pay police off , there is alot of smoke here without the fire , and he must have put alot of assets in his wifes name ( big mistake )) a person with his wealth should know better but maybe he did it because he wanted to hide things , he is now in bohol and supposed to be living on 3000 usd a month but yet he has money to go to the gym if i was desperate for funds i would do my fitness free of charge , jogging on fields or main roads , situps on beaches or in the back yard but no he pays to keep fi with no money ( something does not fit this story ) sorry keep him deported is my judgement on him , there are corrupt police here but its people like him that makes them corrupt as he admitted trying to corrupt them by offering money to them and his kid will be better off without a scruppulous person like him 

A most interesting diatribe, part fiction, part fact and plenty of opinion, just the sort of thing that is given away free at supermarket checkouts in the US, and shortly afterwards litters the surrounding car parks.

Just one thing - could you explain the meaning of 'scruppulous'? I can't find it in the dictionary.

[yellowboat]

37 minutes ago, toughlove said:

Absolutely rubbish. If you have your assets in your name NOBODY can touch them. 

Just a brain dead mantra repeated by those without a bean to their name

In Thailand ?  Brain dead people without any money have few problems in Thailand as they are not an attractive target.  You have to have money to be a target in Thailand.    What is your point again ?

Edited January 25, 2018 by yellowboat

[Jools]

Completely beside the point. He was charged by Thai law, therefore he must be guilty. 

[toughlove]

In Thailand ?

Yes. Show me one example of anyone having their assets stolen in THEIR NAME.

 

Of course fools with joint bank accounts and who bought a house in wifeys name are excluded.

 

Fraud happens here of course like anywhere else in the world that's to be expected

[jonstarjon]

Once you've built up something in Thailand that's worth having, it's easy to get dragged into all sorts of crap to try and comply with officialdom. That includes stuff that we would consider as "normal living". I know from personal experience that this isn't confined to bar girl wives. My wife is a teacher I ended up in a similar situation and ended up having to move myself to work in China for 5 years. Exactly the same kind of story as this guy. It works like Brick Bats. The deeper you Wade in to save yourself the tighter the Gordion knot. Back in UK now still alive at the moment but not for long. Wasted life was my lesson and epitaph.

[smotherb]

5 hours ago, harrycallahan said:

Just $3000 a month pension. We should all marry Norwegians. 

Three thousand dollars a month in not an unusual retirement. You have to remember that the man is Norwegian and Norway, as well as other economically-advantaged countries in Europe, have higher average incomes and pensions than, for example, the UK. I know many expats with $3k/mo or better retirement. Yet, I realize there are many expats here in retirement who do earn that much and cannot even qualify for the retirement extension based on an income of only $2k/mo. Americans earn less on average than Norwegians, yet any American with a well-paying job for 35 years can make at least $2k/mo or more in just Social Security; just as any US military retiree at E-6 (staff sergeant) or any higher rank with just 20 years can make $2k/mo or more--and any E-9, W-3, O-3 or any higher W or O rank with 20 years can make $3k/mo or more.

 

So, there appear to be more than just Norwegians some people should marry.

[metisdead]

A post containing an oversize and intrusive emoji has been removed. 

[smotherb]

6 hours ago, hottrader77 said:

although some of his story may be true , I still think there is something he is hiding , such as how did he get 10 million baht ? he could have been a drug dealer in thailand and had a gun which could have been his own as a way of defending himself , also where was he when his wife was pregnant , if he was in jail for another offence ( undisclosed offence ) could have been for dealing drugs would you want him in your country if he was doing this ? also he tried to pay off police ( bribary ) he says he was innocent so why try pay police off , there is alot of smoke here without the fire , and he must have put alot of assets in his wifes name ( big mistake )) a person with his wealth should know better but maybe he did it because he wanted to hide things , he is now in bohol and supposed to be living on 3000 usd a month but yet he has money to go to the gym if i was desperate for funds i would do my fitness free of charge , jogging on fields or main roads , situps on beaches or in the back yard but no he pays to keep fi with no money ( something does not fit this story ) sorry keep him deported is my judgement on him , there are corrupt police here but its people like him that makes them corrupt as he admitted trying to corrupt them by offering money to them and his kid will be better off without a scruppulous person like him 

B10M is only a little over $300k. Any financial advisor will tell you to have more than that for retirement. As I explained in another post, the man is Norwegian and they have better incomes and pensions than many other Europeans.

[biplanebluey]

6 hours ago, hottrader77 said:

3000 USD A MONTH !!!! WISH I HAD 3000 DOLLARS A MONTH AND HE IS COMPLAINING ?????  nobody knows what he was doing to get 10 million baht alot of these guys will hide their past to get pity , why would i pity a guy on 3000 USD A MONTH ???? AND THE OLD SAYING IS A FOOL AND HIS MONEY ARE SOON PARTED !!

He may be true or false--- I do not know the whole story,but, If I had lost all my money and was left with a 3,000 dollar a month pension I would be a hell of a lot better off than I am now,and still being able to have a comfortable life I could start to live it up!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hottrader77]

5 hours ago, thaibreaker said:

Are you freakin` serious?

You can barely get a condo in urban districts in Norway for 10 mill bath. Thousands of Norwegians before him have transferred that kind of money or more into Thailand. No big deal.

Get real, man.

What`s wrong with people?

it does not say how he got that kind of money he could have been a drug dealer in thailand for all you know your assuming he got it legitimately

[smotherb]

4 hours ago, shackleton said:

He is not the first and won't be the last you read stories all the time about guys getting ripped off here in Thailand mind you guys marrying girls half their age proberly does not help

There are plenty of guys here including myself  have very happy marriages

 Its all about give and take in some cases all take 

Luck  of the draw

 

 

You had me until the last line.  I cannot see how luck is the key. Do you not think or plan?

[hottrader77]

2 hours ago, MartinBangkok said:

This is the .... I have ever read on Thai Visa.

Are you from this planet hottrader77?

Just to comment on one of your "brilliant" theories: 10 million Baht is not a big sum of savings for a 50 or 60 year old Norwegian. And yes, I am a Norwegian.

How long have you been in Thailand hottrader77? Have you read the numerous similiar stories of farangs beeig ripped off in Thailand with joint efforts from wives, corrupt police, corrupt lawyers and corrupt state officials? Or do you need me to point you too them?

And do you think you will receive fair treatment from the Thai justice-system (what a joke that word is) if you ever encounter a problem with a Thai?

who said he got the money from norway ? he could have been a drug dealer in thailand and come here with no money , you do have people on the breadline in norway or did you not look on the sidewalk 

[britishrepublican]

We've all heard these stories before. The thing I don't understand is,  why would anyone invest 10 million+ baht in Thailand, given the constant stream of similar stories like the Norwegian guys?

 

I would never get involved with a Thai girl and buy houses and cars,in Thailand . 90% of the time, it ends in disaster for the farang.

 

A fool and his money.......

[khunPer]

The story was up in the news before, December 8th last year, where ThaiVisa News brought it under the headline: "Norwegian man says Thai wife and policeman lover framed him and got him deported", based on a Thai article in TNews.

 

At that time the story about the gun was:

Quote

Tnews said that he had lost everything - 34 rai of land, a Mercedes Benz and another car, motorbikes, cash. But worst of all he has not seen his son for two years and now he is desperate for help.

 

Trouble started in May 2013 when police arrived during a party at his house in Tha Bor district of Nong Khai. 

 

They found a .38 gun under the seat of a car. He had no licence for the gun.

 

He denied it was his and believes it was planted.

 

He paid 80,000 to a policeman to get him off the rap even though he said he was innocent. But the matter still came to court.

 

Then he was picked up off the street while walking his dog - this time was the charge of causing annoyance to neighbors by threatening them with a knife. 

 

He believed these were trumped up charges at the behest of his wife. On the video he called her a greedy, stupid woman. She has disappeared with the deeds, the vehicles, his son - everything has gone, he said. 

 

He spent hundreds of thousands on a female lawyer who proved useless.

 

All his own efforts to locate his wife and child failed - then he was deported. 

 

[smotherb]

4 hours ago, dfdgfdfdgs said:

 

Plenty of 35 year old guys with 25 year old girls here... I'd wager most of them don't use viagra or have grey hair.   ATM machine?  Maybe the numbers dwindle a bit.  But I think there's a difference between a normal relationship where the guy earns more so pays more for meals, rent etc, and a relationship where the guy actually pays his girlfriend to be there.

 

I went to dinner with a multi-millionaire once and everybody just assumed he would pay, nobody else offered.  Same same.

I once went to lunch with a multi-millionaire and everybody except me just assumed he would pay. I paid. The multi-millionaire offered me the best job I ever had. Sometimes it pays to not be so cheap.

[biplanebluey]

1 hour ago, colinneil said:

Sorry but i disagree with you, i am 20 years older than my 2nd Thai wife.

We are perfectly happy together.

If as you say headaches will come sooner or later, she would have left me when i was 7 months in hospital, and told i would never walk again.

She has been my rock, pushing me, encouraging me, washes, cleans, basically does everything for me.

 

Good on ya mate ,I am in the same boat--- and happy 

[hottrader77]

1 hour ago, PerkinsCuthbert said:

A most interesting diatribe, part fiction, part fact and plenty of opinion, just the sort of thing that is given away free at supermarket checkouts in the US, and shortly afterwards litters the surrounding car parks.

Just one thing - could you explain the meaning of 'scruppulous'? I can't find it in the dictionary.

you will have met a few im sure , ever looked in the mirror ! where does it say he brought the money to thailand after selling houses etc case closed , he could have been dodgy dealing drugs in thailand , lots of foreigners do even norwegians 

[PerkinsCuthbert]

19 minutes ago, hottrader77 said:

you will have met a few im sure , ever looked in the mirror ! where does it say he brought the money to thailand after selling houses etc case closed , he could have been dodgy dealing drugs in thailand , lots of foreigners do even norwegians 

Well, aren't you the sleuth! I doff my Fedora. Have you considered a career in the RTP?

Edited January 25, 2018 by PerkinsCuthbert

[Nana]

although some of his story may be true , I still think there is something he is hiding , such as how did he get 10 million baht ? he could have been a drug dealer in thailand and had a gun which could have been his own as a way of defending himself , also where was he when his wife was pregnant , if he was in jail for another offence ( undisclosed offence ) could have been for dealing drugs would you want him in your country if he was doing this ? also he tried to pay off police ( bribary ) he says he was innocent so why try pay police off , there is alot of smoke here without the fire , and he must have put alot of assets in his wifes name ( big mistake )) a person with his wealth should know better but maybe he did it because he wanted to hide things , he is now in bohol and supposed to be living on 3000 usd a month but yet he has money to go to the gym if i was desperate for funds i would do my fitness free of charge , jogging on fields or main roads , situps on beaches or in the back yard but no he pays to keep fi with no money ( something does not fit this story ) sorry keep him deported is my judgement on him , there are corrupt police here but its people like him that makes them corrupt as he admitted trying to corrupt them by offering money to them and his kid will be better off without a scruppulous person like him 

Bloody hell! You must be the next Sherlock Holmes. And all this knowledge about a person you never once met, just from hidden hints and clues in the story. Any 68 year old Norwegian worth 10 million bath must be a drug dealer. I'm sure of it! Specially taken into consideration what salary he must have had to get his meagre pension.

Sent from my VKY-L29 using Tapatalk

[smotherb]

2 hours ago, smew said:

Like I said: age diff of 10yrs might work out but once you get into +15 yrs diff and you are asking for headaches that will come sooner or later.... simple only a matter of time.....

As I have already said; my wife of almost 40 years is almost 20 years my junior. I am still waiting for her to rip me off in any way. She takes care of me in all ways and has always contributed financially to our relationship.  While your tale of woe may be true for many; it is not true for all.

[garyk]

Thailand!  Just give it up and start a new life and try not to fall into the same hole again.

I know easier said than done.

[geronimo]

2 hours ago, marqus12 said:

Old fools should understand that when they buy a house they lose

their biggest bargaining chip and they are no longer needed.

If my father would do such stupid things like that old fool

I would have pushed him off the cliff

Lucky we have

container homes .....

[Nip]

1 hour ago, hottrader77 said:

do you know how he got 10 mil ? if not shut up ! i said he could have been a drug dealer in thailand for all you know 

I have no idea how he had 10 million just as you have no freaking idea he could have been a drug dealer. Grow up.

[prakhonchai nick]

2 hours ago, toughlove said:

Yes. Show me one example of anyone having their assets stolen in THEIR NAME.

 

Of course fools with joint bank accounts and who bought a house in wifeys name are excluded.

 

Fraud happens here of course like anywhere else in the world that's to be expected

ATM cards and online banking make it very easy, when PINS and passwords are left lying around.

 

Had a case recently where a Father and young son had a joint bank account. Father died, Mother had serious gambling debts, and with the aid of a lawyer had the money transferred to her.

 

Remember THIS IS THAILAND!

[Rimmer]

Multiple flames have been removed

[jorgenweihrauch]

Stay out of problems in Thailand - no matter what - you can`t win 

[toughlove]

ATM cards and online banking make it very easy, when PINS and passwords are left lying around.
 
Had a case recently where a Father and young son had a joint bank account. Father died, Mother had serious gambling debts, and with the aid of a lawyer had the money transferred to her.
 
Remember THIS IS THAILAND!

I think mum gets all the assets? A lawyer still has to follow law.

In any case fraud will happen anywhere just look at the billions lost in ponzi schemes and REMEMBER IT WAS IN THE WEST

The term dont investment more than blah blah is just a brain dead mantra simpley because it applies to EVERY country [emoji5]

[nontabury]

6 hours ago, wildewillie89 said:

Massive age gap, in and out of prison, investing amounts of money into the country that he will later complain about, wife cheating on him, obviously not the smartest guy. The gun is even more moronic. Don't accept a real gun in the house unless you or the wife have the relevant papers for it. 

The constant moaning about corruption on this forum is incredibly boring (whether it be government/women related).  Yes, Thailand is a developing country. Yes, sometimes corruption will rise its head (like every developing country). But that is the side effect you get for the positives you receive when deciding to live in a developing country. Deal and plan for it it as you wont be able to change it. If you are stupid enough to be taken for a ride then really the blame is on you for not planning properly. In that instance learn from it and move on with life, rather than constantly living in the past and saying the exact same negative comments on every single thread. 

Perhaps these people are making these remarks, due to their experience and knowledge, of living in Thailand for a length of time. It’s not a question that corruption will SOMETIMES raise it’s head in Thailand. It’s a fact that corruption is very heavily ingrained throughout all levels of Thai society. That’s not to say that all Thais agree with it,or that all Thais are bad people. They simple understand, that they cannot change the system, and therefore keep their heads down, and hope that they they can live their lives in piece.