the guest Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, mok199 said: The Rich and The Shamless..... How true, and it will still continue, nothing will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tompa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 17 minutes ago, worgeordie said: Has no one from NACC,asked the bloody obvious question,show us the receipts for all these watches,where they were bought,if imported from overseas,was tax paid,and who owns them,the receipts would explain everything,but the way things are,I suppose either the dog or termites have eaten them ! regards worgeordie Or whose name is on the warranty? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob12345 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I heard Yingluck will be coming back to Thailand next week. Appears the whole court case was a mistake: the government had just borrowed the rice from farmers and in return the farmers borrowed money. And the g2g deals with china were just deals to borrow rice and return it later. See, all a misunderstanding. In the end everything (rice and money) will just be returned to the rightful owners and no harm has been done. Taksin will be back soon also by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon467367354 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 right, "didn't own" but now does. Semantics. Zero integrity, something Thailand doesn't need more of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: If someone accepted a free limo with a driver from a person seeking influence, it would be a crime under any anti-corruption regime anywhere in the world. The watches were a thing of value to Prawit or else he would not have worn them (if they actually belong to another person). This is giving a gift to an official and it is corruption. Period. Of course. In any developed world this would apply. But....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
namoi Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I heard Yingluck will be coming back to Thailand next week. Appears the whole court case was a mistake: the government had just borrowed the rice from farmers and in return the farmers borrowed money. And the g2g deals with china were just deals to borrow rice and return it later. See, all a misunderstanding. In the end everything (rice and money) will just be returned to the rightful owners and no harm has been done. Taksin will be back soon also by the way.Pity she doesn't come back, put the cat amongst the pigeons so to speak, it would be interesting to see if they have balls to throw her in the can. Sent from my CPH1707 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazykopite Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Well he cannot borrow my G-Shock I’ve had it on my wrist for 20 years so it must be worth a few baht . The clock is ticking Tick Tock Tick Tock ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcpattaya Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 My friend you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NextStationBangkok Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Thaksin did not own anything on his name too, only his wife and family members owned all the assets. What a contrary treating people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coulson Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Ah, the loophole. Back to work everyone (or sleep more like it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 In the light of all these corrupt generals fighting over the trough,under the auspices of submarines, train s etc may i simply suggest that Rice scheme was not that big of a deal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunpa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 LOL!!! Just showing NOTHING has really changed for the better.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Rubber rules made to be bent in any junta direction carry on blinging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will E Vormer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Seeing as the junta have based everything around Anti corruption, this is the image that will be remembered. For all time..Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AhFarangJa Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, webfact said: Assets subject to be declared to the NACC must ‘belong’ to the person. Theoretically, if [the assets] do not belong to the person, his spouse, or his minor children, they won’t need to be declared,” said Worawit. It took them 7 weeks or so to come out with this excuse......my, but the wheels turn slowly here......obviuosly just being diligent....... 4 hours ago, webfact said: Worawit said NACC officials would look at all the legal aspects of the case. But of course they will....No stone unturned......Should be good for at least 6 months sitting around on fat expense accounts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Ricardo said: "DEPUTY Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan would not be required to declare his extravagant watch collection as assets under the anti-graft law if the watches did not belong to him" But surely he would have been morally-obliged (or even legally-obliged ?) to return a high-value borrowed-watch or watches, within a reasonably-short time after he'd died, to the estate of the lender ? So put them in a dead friends name, he will end up in Hell and burn fat man burn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lockyv7 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 surely watches of this valus would have a serial number and a record as to where and when and who purchased them, even a warranty card for <deleted> sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said: If someone accepted a free limo with a driver from a person seeking influence, it would be a crime under any anti-corruption regime anywhere in the world. The watches were a thing of value to Prawit or else he would not have worn them (if they actually belong to another person). This is giving a gift to an official and it is corruption. Period. Your're right but I'm afraid that what goes on in the real world has no bearing here. Remember Tharit's unique interpretation that perjury isn't against the law if your're only a witness and not the one being tried? Ridiculous by any standards but it was used to dismiss charges he didn't want to pursue. Well this the same sort of thing for the group currently in power. Looks like if you have assets, don't declare them, either when entering on leaving office depending on when acquired, then all you have to say is my friend lent them to me. No one it seems will question why they were lent, what might have been the reason, or how the "friend' acquired them, legal or otherwise. Of course, the NACC, DSI, or whichever office investigates are well qualified to judge who the "good people" are who must be believed always. It seems the required skill in these jobs is the ability to be creative in finding ways to not actually prosecuting people rather than bringing them to justice. And that golden caveat the "the final decision rests with the investigating officer" who is backed up with the defamation laws. The "system" works how it was intended and designed to. Expect this will be something along the lines of items loaned by friend(s) and no interest in checking into the friend(s) acquisition of those items as they are private individuals and that would infringe their human rights. Case closed. Any adverse comments or challenge to that gets walloped with defamation and Computer Crimes Act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, poohy said: In the light of all these corrupt generals fighting over the trough,under the auspices of submarines, train s etc may i simply suggest that Rice scheme was not that big of a deal! You can suggest it, but might want to look into the actual amounts of money involved. And maybe consider what PTP were going to do with the off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny, 2.2 trillion baht loan they were aiming to push through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Prayut should be told that keeping Prawit on board will make his government's life span even shorter while the entire world is having a good laugh on the latest slapstick ;-) You simply cannot invent such stories - too hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: You can suggest it, but might want to look into the actual amounts of money involved. And maybe consider what PTP were going to do with the off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny, 2.2 trillion baht loan they were aiming to push through. Why talk the abstract. Uncomfortable to talk about the real issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Eric Loh said: Why talk the abstract. Uncomfortable to talk about the real issue? What? I was replying to a specific post. Having difficulty keeping up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, lockyv7 said: surely watches of this valus would have a serial number and a record as to where and when and who purchased them, even a warranty card for <deleted> sake. I am sure Ake and his like minded activists are looking into this and waiting for the NACC to made their final announcement. Then we see sparks will start to fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyF Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 1 hour ago, YetAnother said: the future of corruption in thailand is rosy indeed Indeed. "While there was some concern that the loan explanation would become a new stock argument for politicians concealing assets, Worawit said the agency would not necessarily regard this type of defence as valid" Laying the ground work for Prawit's escape, while simultaneously closing the door for future politicians to use the same lame excuse. Good job NACC. Excelling once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mainhattencitizen Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 4 hours ago, ezzra said: Here we have a general and DPM who's suppose to be smart and knowledgeable of the laws of the land, now he hides behind the claims of ' prove the watches are mine ' arguments, he should know and act better than that for a man in his position... Get rid of this old fool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 22 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: You can suggest it, but might want to look into the actual amounts of money involved. And maybe consider what PTP were going to do with the off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny, 2.2 trillion baht loan they were aiming to push through. Ok so elected Robbers v Robbers that just stole the country to get their grubby fingers in the pie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Just now, poohy said: Ok so elected Robbers v Robbers that just stole the country to get their grubby fingers in the pie! Correct. Amnesty attemptees v Amnesty getters if you wish too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 They can spin this any way the want but it's a form of corruption, and attempting to bury it is also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said: Correct. Amnesty attemptees v Amnesty getters if you wish too. However, you will agree, "elected " seems to be the sticking point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meinphuket Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 And so the unbelievable fairy tale continues with its laughable twists, turns, untruths, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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