Prawit ‘not obliged to declare assets he didn’t own’

[the guest]

1 hour ago, mok199 said:

The Rich and The Shamless.....

How true, and it will still continue, nothing will change.

[Tompa]

17 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

Has no one from NACC,asked the bloody obvious question,show

us the receipts for all these watches,where they were bought,if

imported from overseas,was tax paid,and who owns them,the

receipts would explain everything,but the way things are,I suppose 

either the dog or termites have eaten them !

regards worgeordie

Or whose name is on the warranty?

[Bob12345]

I heard Yingluck will be coming back to Thailand next week. Appears the whole court case was a mistake: the government had just borrowed the rice from farmers and in return the farmers borrowed money. And the g2g deals with china were just deals to borrow rice and return it later.

 

See, all a misunderstanding. In the end everything (rice and money) will just be returned to the rightful owners and no harm has been done.

 

Taksin will be back soon also by the way.

[anon467367354]

right, "didn't own" but now does. Semantics. Zero integrity, something Thailand doesn't need more of.

[Gandtee]

4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

If someone accepted a free limo with a driver from a person seeking influence, it would be a crime under any anti-corruption regime anywhere in the world.

 

The watches were a thing of value to Prawit or else he would not have worn them (if they actually belong to another person).

 

This is giving a gift to an official and it is corruption. 

 

Period.

 

Of course. In any developed world this would apply. But.......

 

[namoi]

I heard Yingluck will be coming back to Thailand next week. Appears the whole court case was a mistake: the government had just borrowed the rice from farmers and in return the farmers borrowed money. And the g2g deals with china were just deals to borrow rice and return it later.
 
See, all a misunderstanding. In the end everything (rice and money) will just be returned to the rightful owners and no harm has been done.
 
Taksin will be back soon also by the way.

Pity she doesn't come back, put the cat amongst the pigeons so to speak, it would be interesting to see if they have balls to throw her in the can.

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[crazykopite]

Well he cannot borrow my G-Shock I’ve had it on my wrist for 20 years so it must be worth a few baht . The clock is ticking Tick Tock Tick Tock !

[kcpattaya]

My friend you...

[NextStationBangkok]

Thaksin did not own anything on his name too, only his wife and family members owned all the assets.

 

What a contrary treating people...

[coulson]

Ah, the loophole.

 

Back to work everyone (or sleep more like it)

[poohy]

In the light of all these corrupt generals fighting over the trough,under the auspices of submarines, train s etc

may i simply suggest that Rice scheme was not that big of a deal!

[khunpa]

LOL!!! Just showing NOTHING has really changed for the better..

[sammieuk1]

Rubber rules made to be bent in any junta direction carry on blinging.

[Will E Vormer]

Seeing as the junta have based everything around Anti corruption, this is the image that will be remembered. For all time..

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[AhFarangJa]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Assets subject to be declared to the NACC must ‘belong’ to the person. Theoretically, if [the assets] do not belong to the person, his spouse, or his minor children, they won’t need to be declared,” said Worawit.

It took them 7 weeks or so to come out with this excuse......my, but the wheels turn slowly here......obviuosly just being diligent.......

 

4 hours ago, webfact said:

Worawit said NACC officials would look at all the legal aspects of the case.

But of course they will....No stone unturned......Should be good for at least 6 months sitting around on fat expense accounts.....

[wakeupplease]

2 hours ago, Ricardo said:

"DEPUTY Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan would not be required to declare his extravagant watch collection as assets under the anti-graft law if the watches did not belong to him"

 

But surely he would have been morally-obliged (or even legally-obliged ?) to return a high-value borrowed-watch or watches, within a reasonably-short time after he'd died, to the estate of the lender ?

So put them in a dead friends name, he will  end up in Hell and burn fat man burn

[lockyv7]

surely watches of this valus would have a serial number and a record as to where and when and who purchased them, even a warranty card for <deleted> sake. 

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, Samui Bodoh said:

If someone accepted a free limo with a driver from a person seeking influence, it would be a crime under any anti-corruption regime anywhere in the world.

 

The watches were a thing of value to Prawit or else he would not have worn them (if they actually belong to another person).

 

This is giving a gift to an official and it is corruption. 

 

Period.

 

 

Your're right but I'm afraid that what goes on in the real world has no bearing here. 

 

Remember Tharit's unique interpretation that perjury isn't against the law if your're only a witness and not the one being tried? Ridiculous by any standards but it was used to dismiss charges he didn't want to pursue. 

 

Well this the same sort of thing for the group currently in power. 

 

Looks like if you have assets, don't declare them, either when entering on leaving office depending on when acquired, then all you have to say is my friend lent them to me. No one it seems will question why they were lent, what might have been the reason, or how the "friend' acquired them, legal or otherwise.

 

Of course, the NACC, DSI, or whichever office investigates are well qualified to judge who the "good people" are who must be believed always.

 

It seems the required skill in these jobs is the ability to be creative in finding ways to not actually prosecuting people rather than bringing them to justice. And that golden caveat the "the final decision rests with the investigating officer" who is backed up with the defamation laws.

 

The "system" works how it was intended and designed to. Expect this will be something along the lines of items loaned by friend(s) and no interest in checking into the friend(s) acquisition of those items as they are private individuals and that would infringe their human rights. Case closed. Any adverse comments or challenge to that gets walloped with defamation and Computer Crimes Act. 

 

 

 

 

[Baerboxer]

19 minutes ago, poohy said:

In the light of all these corrupt generals fighting over the trough,under the auspices of submarines, train s etc

may i simply suggest that Rice scheme was not that big of a deal!

 

You can suggest it, but might want to look into the actual amounts of money involved. And maybe consider what PTP were going to do with the off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny, 2.2 trillion baht loan they were aiming to push through. 

[Sydebolle]

Prayut should be told that keeping Prawit on board will make his government's life span even shorter while the entire world is having a good laugh on the latest slapstick ;-)

You simply cannot invent such stories - too hilarious 

[Eric Loh]

3 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

You can suggest it, but might want to look into the actual amounts of money involved. And maybe consider what PTP were going to do with the off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny, 2.2 trillion baht loan they were aiming to push through. 

Why talk the abstract. Uncomfortable to talk about the real issue? 

[Baerboxer]

1 minute ago, Eric Loh said:

Why talk the abstract. Uncomfortable to talk about the real issue? 

 

What? I was replying to a specific post. Having difficulty keeping up?

 

 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, lockyv7 said:

surely watches of this valus would have a serial number and a record as to where and when and who purchased them, even a warranty card for <deleted> sake. 

I am sure Ake and his like minded activists are looking into this and waiting for the NACC to made their final announcement. Then we see sparks will start to fly. 

[JonnyF]

1 hour ago, YetAnother said:

the future of corruption in thailand is rosy indeed

Indeed.

 

"While there was some concern that the loan explanation would become a new stock argument for politicians concealing assets, Worawit said the agency would not necessarily regard this type of defence as valid"

 

Laying the ground work for Prawit's escape, while simultaneously closing the door for future politicians to use the same lame excuse. Good job NACC. Excelling once again.

 

 

 

 

[Mainhattencitizen]

4 hours ago, ezzra said:

Here we have a general and DPM who's suppose to be smart and knowledgeable

of the laws of the land, now he hides behind the claims of ' prove the

watches are mine ' arguments, he should know and act better than that

for a man in his position...

Get rid of this old fool

[poohy]

22 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

You can suggest it, but might want to look into the actual amounts of money involved. And maybe consider what PTP were going to do with the off budget, out of parliamentary scrutiny, 2.2 trillion baht loan they were aiming to push through. 

Ok so elected Robbers v Robbers that just stole the country to get their grubby fingers in the pie! 

 

 

[Baerboxer]

Just now, poohy said:

Ok so elected Robbers v Robbers that just stole the country to get their grubby fingers in the pie! 

 

 

 

Correct. 

 

Amnesty attemptees v Amnesty getters if you wish too.

[connda]

They can spin this any way the want but it's a form of corruption, and attempting to bury it is also.

[poohy]

5 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

Correct. 

 

Amnesty attemptees v Amnesty getters if you wish too.

However, you will agree, "elected " seems to be the sticking point

[meinphuket]

And so the unbelievable fairy tale continues with its laughable twists, turns, untruths,