SURVEY: Do you want Trump to finish his first term?

Jingthing · April 10, 2018

But, but, but....Clinton! And rather fanciful Clinton stuff at that. The Clintons are the most investigated first family in history. With the exception of Bill Clinton lying about a BJ, there have been no charges and no out of court settlements.

In other words, you are spreading unsubstantiated accusations. You don't want to make this thread about accusations, accusations against Trump are endless.

Yes and Hillary is totally irrelevant now except to desperate "trump" supporters who need some stupid thing to harp about to try to avoid the inevitable massacre of the r party in the midterms.

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riclag · April 10, 2018

China's president offers US possible trade concessions

Yes,tough talk on tariffs and ploy's do work! PT needs another 7 years to Keep America Great.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/chinas-president-promises-cut-auto-import-tariff-54352095

Edited April 10, 2018 by riclag

Jingthing · April 10, 2018

China's president offers US possible trade concessions
Yes,tough talk on tariffs and ploy's do work! PT needs another 7 years to Keep America Great.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/chinas-president-promises-cut-auto-import-tariff-54352095

Don't bother crowing unless there is an actual deal.

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riclag · April 10, 2018

33 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Don't bother crowing unless there is an actual deal.

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PT has been chastised by many for his aggressive talk on tariffs .He has a knack for making deals and bringing countries to the negotiating table ,such as North Korea. I must give credit despite you trying to tell me what to bother about.

Edited April 10, 2018 by riclag

Jingthing · April 10, 2018

Hey, guys, look!

It's our good friend Randy Rainbow with his ever so amusing musical musings on the star of the world, the "trump."

riclag · April 10, 2018

17 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Oh, please.

NK hasn't actually met yet.

Their idea of denucleazation is totally different than the U.S. view.

Again, don't be absurd and celebrate "accomplishments" before they happen.
If all NK does is meet and nothing is agreed to, NK wins as Kim gets to be seen as an equal.

I stand by my opinion .PT has been chastised by many for his aggressive talk on tariffs .He has a knack for making deals and bringing countries to the negotiating table ,such as North Korea. I must give credit despite you trying to tell me what to bother about(in a previous post#1535).. Don't call me absurd,your baiting and flaming.

Edited April 10, 2018 by riclag

Jingthing · April 10, 2018

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

...
your baiting and flaming.

GOODBYE.

Edited April 10, 2018 by Jingthing

Skywalker69 · April 10, 2018

3 hours ago, heybruce said:

But, but, but....Clinton! And rather fanciful Clinton stuff at that. The Clintons are the most investigated first family in history. With the exception of Bill Clinton lying about a BJ, there have been no charges and no out of court settlements.

In other words, you are spreading unsubstantiated accusations. You don't want to make this thread about accusations, accusations against Trump are endless.

heybruce · April 10, 2018

3 hours ago, riclag said:

China's president offers US possible trade concessions

Yes,tough talk on tariffs and ploy's do work! PT needs another 7 years to Keep America Great.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/chinas-president-promises-cut-auto-import-tariff-54352095

Just think about how much more clout he would have going into these negotiaions if he had allies, especially those with a keen interest in checking China's influence. Those in danger of being overwhelmed by China, those close to China. Something like a Trans-Pacific Partnership. Too bad we don't have a leader with such foresight and negotiating skills.

Edited April 10, 2018 by heybruce

lannarebirth · April 10, 2018

2 hours ago, riclag said:

PT has been chastised by many for his aggressive talk on tariffs .He has a knack for making deals and bringing countries to the negotiating table ,such as North Korea. I must give credit despite you trying to tell me what to bother about.

China has massive industrial over capacity. Every trade deal we have signed is disadvantageous to the American populous. It is inconceivable that any president that even tried to gain even somewhat more favorable terms would not be successful in that endeavour. I do not understand peoples resistance to this campaign to level the trade playing field, just as I never understood their acceptance of the one sided agreements to start with.

I think it has to do with their misunderstanding of economics. They believe the econonomic theory the party and the nedia tell them not knowing that's all bullshit. Keynes would be spinning in his grave if he lived to see what had been done in his name. Almost the exact opposite of what he espoused while alive.

riclag · April 10, 2018

3 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

I do not understand peoples resistance to this campaign to level the trade playing field, just as I never understood their acceptance of the one sided agreements to start with.

Fair Trade!That's all. The can of worms opened up on 11 December 2001.

heybruce · April 10, 2018

2 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

China has massive industrial over capacity. Every trade deal we have signed is disadvantageous to the American populous. It is inconceivable that any president that even tried to gain even somewhat more favorable terms would not be successful in that endeavour. I do not understand peoples resistance to this campaign to level the trade playing field, just as I never understood their acceptance of the one sided agreements to start with.

I think it has to do with their misunderstanding of economics. They believe the econonomic theory the party and the nedia tell them not knowing that's all bullshit. Keynes would be spinning in his grave if he lived to see what had been done in his name. Almost the exact opposite of what he espoused while alive.

2 hours ago, heybruce said:

Just think about how much more clout he would have going into these negotiaions if he had allies, especially those with a keen interest in checking China's influence. Those in danger of being overwhelmed by China, those close to China. Something like a Trans-Pacific Partnership. Too bad we don't have a leader with such foresight and negotiating skills.

Do you understand the need for like minded allies and cooperation in dealing with China?

lannarebirth · April 10, 2018

24 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Do you understand the need for like minded allies and cooperation in dealing with China?

Other than the countries that China can steamroll with either their economic or military clout, which Asia Pacific countries are not like minded allies of the US? Korea? Japan? Vietnam? Australia? India? We have security and trade relationships with all these countries. Some long term, some developing. A "one size fits all" trade agreement just doesn't work as each of these nations has very specific trade and security issues, not only with China but sometimes each other. Also bear in mind, while these countries are our allies we also compete against them for trade.

Jingthing · April 10, 2018

Well, here we are folks.

Getting really close (possibly to probably) to impeachable offenses of the "president" coming to light.

This is getting very real.

"trump" knows it even if some of his supporters are in deep denial.

That doesn't mean he will be impeached (that's a political process) and/or convicted because of the impeachable offenses (also a political process) but assuming the impeachable offenses come to light, whether "trump" fires Mueller or not, we'll be entering a new phase in this totally unprecedented HOT MESS of a so called presidency.

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President Trump has never been in more trouble than right now

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-President-Trump-has-never-been-in-more-trouble-than-right-now.HkA8hucsM.html

joecoolfrog · April 10, 2018

On 28/01/2018 at 6:49 AM, i claudius said:

Well at least he doesnt pussyfoot around and says what many are afraid to say out loud

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Most mentally unstable people do !

Ron19 · April 10, 2018

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Jingthing · April 11, 2018

Most mentally unstable people do !

Yeah and it's not as if he has Tourette's!

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Jingthing · April 11, 2018

Smells like impeachment of this ridiculous con man compulsive liar president is coming especially if the democrats win congress, which they will --

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We’ve seen this movie before. It ended with impeachment.

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It has been observed that most movies end with a repetition or variation of the opening scene. Increasingly, this plot seems to be foreshadowing a day when Trump, exposed and possibly impeached, is shown going back up the down escalator — alone, perhaps, but glad to be home.

http://www.paywallnews.com/life/Opinion-|-We’ve-seen-this-movie-before--It-ended-with-impeachment-.BJma7ZA5oG.html

heybruce · April 11, 2018

9 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

Other than the countries that China can steamroll with either their economic or military clout, which Asia Pacific countries are not like minded allies of the US? Korea? Japan? Vietnam? Australia? India? We have security and trade relationships with all these countries. Some long term, some developing. A "one size fits all" trade agreement just doesn't work as each of these nations has very specific trade and security issues, not only with China but sometimes each other. Also bear in mind, while these countries are our allies we also compete against them for trade.

Anything other than "one size fits all" trade agreements allow countries to restrict imports with petty requirements--font size on labels, packaging requirements, etc. This is especially effective for small countries that want to restrict imports, and especially hard on small businesses that want to export. Uniform standards facilitate trade.

Collective action will be much more effective in restraining China and fighting one-sided trading requirements such as "sharing" of intellectual property. Or it would have been, if Trump hadn't pulled out of the TPP.

JHolmesJr · April 11, 2018

Not only do I want him to finish his first term I'd like him to win a second term.

Not a "great" president in the vein of obama etc who only talk great.

Everything he's doing he said he was going to do.

He said he was going to bring it to China and he brought it.

I like it when a Prez takes action to keep his promises.

Andaman Al · April 11, 2018

The rats are all jumping off the sinking ship that is the Trump administration.

The number of politicians now no longer seeking re-election is unprecedented. This is how congressmen and Senators actually say "I don't want to be part of this anymore" and it is how they will try and save their name should they seek another political elected position.

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Speaker Paul Ryan Will Not Seek Re-Election in November

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/11/us/politics/speaker-paul-ryan-will-not-seek-re-election-in-november.html

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Mr. Ryan’s retirement will kick off a succession battle for the leadership of the House Republican Conference, likely between the House majority leader, Kevin McCarthy of California, and the House majority whip, Steve Scalise of Louisiana.

It could also trigger another wave of retirements among Republicans not eager to face angry voters in the fall and taking their cue from Mr. Ryan.

Are Trump supporters getting tired of all this winning yet? Trump is destroying the very fabric of everything that was good about the USA.

Slip · April 11, 2018

5 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

Not only do I want him to finish his first term I'd like him to win a second term.

Not a "great" president in the vein of obama etc who only talk great.

Everything he's doing he said he was going to do.

He said he was going to bring it to China and he brought it.

I like it when a Prez takes action to keep his promises.

When you say "bring it" are you referring to his daughter's company's manufacturing facility?

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Scott · April 11, 2018

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heybruce · April 11, 2018

Trump, the brilliant military strategist, has given a heads-up on his Syria plans:

" "Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and 'smart!,'" Trump tweeted. " https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/trump-issues-threat-after-moscow-vows-to-shoot-down-missiles-in-syria.html

The results were predictable:

" The Russian military has reportedly gone on high alert in anticipation of a potential U.S. attack on the forces of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, a Moscow ally accused of using chemical weapons in a seven-year civil war. " https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-responds-trump-apos-military-172922094.html

Wouldn't you love to play poker with Trump? "I've got a crap hand, so I'm going to try to bluff a win. Get ready for it you guys."

Andaman Al · April 11, 2018

4 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Trump, the brilliant military strategist, has given a heads-up on his Syria plans:

" "Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and 'smart!,'" Trump tweeted. " https://www.cnbc.com/2018/04/11/trump-issues-threat-after-moscow-vows-to-shoot-down-missiles-in-syria.html

I have just been chatting with a close friend who is a serving 3 star. He is not US, but said he is absolutely livid on behalf of all the Chiefs of the armed forces that were sat at Trump's table yesterday. They will all bite their lips and (along with their men and women) do their duty for country and corps, but they will truly despise Trump.

I think Trump should follow Ryan quickly and declare that he will not seek re-election, it would save the Republicans an extra 20 years in recovery time.

UncleTouchyFingers · April 11, 2018

1 hour ago, Andaman Al said:

I have just been chatting with a close friend who is a serving 3 star.

juice777 · April 11, 2018

"Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and enjoys it!"

And a hour or so later

"Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes the Cold War. There is no reason for this. Russia needs us to help with their economy, something that would be very easy to do, and we need all nations to work together. Stop the arms race"

He's mad it's official

All the supporters on here must have changed their mind now and if you say no you are lying or you are Mad as well.

There is no Debate now He is clearly a raving lunatic.

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bendejo · April 11, 2018

2 hours ago, Andaman Al said:

Trump is destroying the very fabric of everything that was good about the USA.

As well as the careers of Republican politicians.

Ryan to run against DT in 2020? One line: "little Eddie Munster..." and the crowd will go wild and Ryan's out of the race.

Andaman Al · April 11, 2018

8 minutes ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

If you think I would concern myself that someone who would voluntarily choose to call themselves UncleTouchyFingers doesn't believe me then think again.

UncleTouchyFingers · April 11, 2018

Just now, Andaman Al said:

If you think I would concern myself that someone who would voluntarily choose to call themselves UncleTouchyFingers doesn't believe me then think again.

Yet you replied.

Anyone who "chats" with 3 star generals wouldn't be posting on this flea-bag forum with people like me anyway.

There is literally no way a serving 3 star general would talk about Trump or policies to you, and if you were talking to 3 stars, you wouldn't be posting about it on here.

OPSEC is serious business to military personnel.

Now I don't agree with Trumps tweet at all, but your post is a bunch of baloney.

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