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Good news if Hummel is not playing in addition to Reus and a few others identified by NewPix (I'll drop by Peppers tomorrow fellah and say hello whatever the result, now I know who you are! Kein Problem if you are not around).

Debuchey out, Monreal injured and Chambers only 50/50 with tonsilitis. Looks like Gibbs has to play 90 off the injury list then and, unless Flam can play RB it's a baptism of fire for Bellerin (yes - I know he has played the Milk Cup or something similar). Arsene gets his som nam na moment earlier in the season than I expected (som nam na, because most of us were calling for one or both of another centre-back or DMF in the transfer window)

I wonder who is feeling the strain after Saturday's humdinger at the Emirates. Presumably Cazorla gets onto the sheet for his energy and tracking back to help out a depeleted defence - who he swaps with is probably more a function of fitness than energy levels. Hate to say it but on form he should probably replace Ozil or even Ramsey, neither of whom have done enough so far this season. Ozil will presumably be fit though (his style is not high energy!) and he would relish an outing at Dortmund. His mentality appears a little fragile and a dropping form this game may be counterproductive long term. Jack plays best (ie advanced) when he has a BTB behind him, like Ramsey played on Saturday. I hope Arteta is a fit starter.

Yes I know we have a good record at Dortmund in the CL (won last year/drew previous year) and a good record generally away at this stage of the competition. Given the lack of recovery time from Saturday I'd take a draw. Don't like to wish for 0-0 s and Arsenal never play for draws so I'll predict 1-1. Have to beat them at home this year to avoid the biggest teams in the knock-outs

Experience/temperament for a European game is crucial, so I would not play Bellerin or a half fit Chambers. I'll punt on Ramsey being 'rested' and go for

Szezsney (one more soft hand like Saturday and it's hello Ospina!)

Flamini/Mertesacker/Koscielny/Gibbs

Arteta

Cazorla/Wilshere/Ozil

Wellbeck/Sanchez

Ramsey/Pod/Ox as the key subs who would get at least 30 minutes.

I just wonder whether Wenger will play a slightly weaker side than this and risk a loss in order not to overplay one or two players like Sanchez and Wilshere. We should be a banker to qualify at least second in the group. I have a feeling that he is a realist/businessman like Pelligrini - more important to focus on getting into the top three of EPL than to get into the last 8 of the CL. Once past the group stages everything is a crap shoot after all (as the Americans say). Noticeably, he has not been issuing the 'critical importance' briefings like he sometimes does.

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Why would I have doubted that Arsene would go for youth before experience?

Bellerin is waiting to start if Chambers cannot. Quoth Arsene "His transition game is fantastic. He's very quick and his final ball is good as well. He lacks a bit of experience as a defender, but he's very dangerous going forward.

Another Arsenal defender who's a great football prospect, but just a bit questionable at defending? smile.png Bould must tear his hair out sometimes. {But Flamini as a full back was always a bit of a long shot - probably would be sent off in the first 10 minutes!

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I am pretty certain Dortmund is a non smoking stadium. Not sure where the poor chap will get his puff from tonight.

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Judging by the photo, cigs aren't the only thing he likes to smoke. I'm sure that is probably not allowed in the stadium either.

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I am pretty certain Dortmund is a non smoking stadium. Not sure where the poor chap will get his puff from tonight.

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Judging by the photo, cigs aren't the only thing he likes to smoke. I'm sure that is probably not allowed in the stadium either.

I wouldn't have sussed that from that old picture Bob, are you speaking from personal experience?

As it is, no way is he a shirtlifter, he has a rather nice WAG and monumentally poor dress sense.

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I am pretty certain Dortmund is a non smoking stadium. Not sure where the poor chap will get his puff from tonight.

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I'm sure Dortmund will make an exception and allow him to have a smoke before the match biggrin.png

By the way, latest report I heard was that Kagawa starting was also questionable. He had some muscle problems up until yesterday. They were going to decide in the morning, after the final training ( European time ) if he can play. From the sounds of it, it wasnt too serious and just adding a bit of fire for the rumor mill....I'm sure he'll be in the starting line up.

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I am pretty certain Dortmund is a non smoking stadium. Not sure where the poor chap will get his puff from tonight.

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Judging by the photo, cigs aren't the only thing he likes to smoke. I'm sure that is probably not allowed in the stadium either.

I wouldn't have sussed that from that old picture Bob, are you speaking from personal experience?

As it is, no way is he a shirtlifter, he has a rather nice WAG and monumentally poor dress sense.

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Thanks for sharing Chicky, looks like a ladyboy to me, but then he is so butt ugly what do you expect!

Good luck tonight you gooners. You need a lucky away goal me thinks, or you will be in the poo. My prediction is 3-0 to the krauts.

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Ok, just had my Iced Latte...I should be good to go the next ~5 hours. I hope I will be able to find a good live stream, and most importantly that my Internet Connection improves!!!!! Since this morning it's been very choppy.

By the way, I am thinking of 2:1...but since I hate 2:1 predictions, I will go with a 3:2 wai2.gif

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Wow. Was surprised how "easy" it seemed. Something was terribly wrong with your passing game. It seemed as most of the Arsenal Team played together for the first time. But it's just the beginning of the season. Lets see how it goes when we're London in late November.

How come Podolski is always on the Bench????? Is he not performing well? I always valued him as a better player than Ozil.

The other Group Match ended in a 1:1 Draw....good :)

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They can only watch from the envious shadows wink.png

Even though it's a school night, mysteriously all of my meetings tomorrow got cancelled. What a turn up eh? 55555

Problem is, you are in reality, a europa league.standard team! A 2-0 defeat massively flattered Arsenal last night, but to be fair, that injury ravaged Dortmund side were very good! Thoroughly good entertainment though. biggrin.png

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This season Arsene is going to have to learn the lessons of last season and of the match last night.

Squad rotation does not mean playing 5 different players in the FA Cup and a few more than that in the Milk Cup. It should also apply to the Premier/Champions League team - even though it is tempting to always pick the best on paper players for every match.

Otherwise injuries and tired failures like last might are going to mount.

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Yes - Danny missed 3 half chances. None of them were sitters IMO.

Early days - he was not the main master of our destruction. Too early for Arteta to come back and continued serial spluttering from Ozil and Ramsey mostly to blame. Left the defence unnecessarily exposed and could not feed the front men sufficiently. Our leader's stubborn insistence on only buying quality and not being pragamatic (two defenders bought and 3 sold = net loss of 1 from an already under-resourced base) is going to haunt us until January, when Arsene simply has to get real about that DMF position.

As managers get older those traits of old men creep in - we saw it with Fergie and now we are seeing it with Le Prof.

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This season Arsene is going to have to learn the lessons of last season and of the match last night.

Squad rotation does not mean playing 5 different players in the FA Cup and a few more than that in the Milk Cup. It should also apply to the Premier/Champions League team - even though it is tempting to always pick the best on paper players for every match.

Otherwise injuries and tired failures like last might are going to mount.

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Yes - Danny missed 3 half chances. None of them were sitters IMO.

Early days - he was not the main master of our destruction. Too early for Arteta to come back and continued serial spluttering from Ozil and Ramsey mostly to blame. Left the defence unnecessarily exposed and could not feed the front men sufficiently. Our leader's stubborn insistence on only buying quality and not being pragamatic (two defenders bought and 3 sold = net loss of 1 from an already under-resourced base) is going to haunt us until January, when Arsene simply has to get real about that DMF position.

As managers get older those traits of old men creep in - we saw it with Fergie and now we are seeing it with Le Prof.

Didn't we see Ferguson win the league by eleven points in his last season? They looked like winning traits to me.

(i might add he was doing a very nice tactical job on Madrid in the CL until that tool Nani went and got himself sent off.)

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Great manager SAF, but you don't think he went on too long Carmine (I certainly do)? Your support for his talent continuing into old age seem a tad inconsistent with all your postings rubbishing (correctly) the Man U team he left behindsmile.png

Edit: correction to one of my postings - one of Welbeck's 3 chances was more than a half chance.

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Great manager SAF, but you don't think he went on too long Carmine (I certainly do)? Your support for his talent continuing into old age seem a tad inconsistent with all your postings rubbishing (correctly) the Man U team he left behindsmile.png

He could take a group of players by the scruff of the neck and literally inform them they were going to win! That side had no business winning the league by eleven points. That was a truly great manager at his best.

The mistake imho was not charging him with starting the transition. He should have then handed over and retired whilst everything was already in motion. Thats my opinion.

Anyway, bact to all things Ozil. He had another anonymous night i thought. Doesn't track back either which he was needed to do. Chicog seems to think he does his bit but we all know thats blinkered thinking.wink.png How long before has to make one of two decisions. Either play him in his favored no10 role or simply bench him?

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