"I bribed immigration 3,000 baht to get into Thailand", says arrested Dutch child abuser

[NextStationBangkok]

I am not sure how the software works in Thailand ?

 

Who writes the logic that finds duration of stay with same passport, or entry and exits etc.

 

Also have to blame Dutch officials let this guy out from Netherlands. Given at age 70, if he is abusing children, he might have been convicted in the past.

 

It is also failure of Interpol and other agencies catching the child sex abusers around the world using fake profiles, and deep dig into private groups and networks.

 

Despite of all checks if he is still doing such crime means, it is a complete failure in our international intelligence network.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Cadbury said:

I have read the entire report; thank you kindly for your suggestion. Allowing for the story about the RTP collecting their envelopes for the new year the statement from the NACC is quite clear. I  repeat it.

 

"a National Anti-Corruption Commission rule allows civil servants to accept cash or items worth up to Bt3,000 as gifts."

 

Does not an Immigration Officer come under the classification of a civil servant? If not (in your opinion) then what is he/she?  Does the straw splitting start by defining whether a gift is a bribe or whether a bribe is a gift? And who does the defining?

Did the pedo offer a gift or did the pedo offer a bribe to the immigration officer? Perhaps if the pedo had said he offered the immigration officer a gift without asking for anything in return (nudge, nudge, wink,wink) would that then make it legal according to the NACC. 

All semantics I suppose but the rule is what it says it is.

In Thai justice speak it could mean that bribes of 3,000 baht may not necessarily be deemed bribes.......they can instead be deemed "gifts". Thai justice and law is nothing more than a pigs breakfast.

and how many "gifts" can you accept in one day / week / month from the same source - or doesn't that matter as a gift is a gift.

[natway09]

That"s why the border boys all have a new Mercs

[glasswort]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Chief of Surin immigration Pol Col Charnchai Chaokasem spoke to Sanook over the phone later and defended the crossing saying that it implemented strict measures that resulted in 56 people on warrants being stopped last year and 27 already in 2018.

Totally irrelevant.

[mick220675]

A farang near me paid the immigration at the  same crossing a lot more than 3000 baht to get back in to Thailand after he served time and was deported. He now is illegally hear and pays the police to let him stay.

 

There must be thousands of people who have paid to get into Thailand and tens of thousands possibly hundreds of thousands who are living hear on dodgy visas. The situation will get worse as the government continues to make it harder to qualify for a visa. The immigration police will have many more customers willing to hand over cash.

[TheFishman1]

Talking about 3000 bht how about the 100 of millions to the Big Bosses TIT

[brewsterbudgen]

The sheer number of pedophile cases being reported is going to result in more grief for every expat as they institute mindless new rules to combat such activity. WHY is Thailand a hub for pedophiles in the first place???

Is there any evidence that Thailand is a hub for paedophiles? Cambodia and the US/Europe have far worse reputations.

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[hgma]

North Koreans walking in Bung Kan area, and picked up by immigration....i just read.(source.English Thai newspaper!)

How did this creature got in? i doubt through a meager 3000 bath........and for the NK 'tourists', how did THEY got into Thailand.................boat!

If drugs find their way into Thailand undetected people are not detected too

[Italian guy]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

He said that there was no record of Joseph Marie Rienards entering Thailand in Surin

That sounds surprising... 

 

"the person or persons responsible would face internal sanctions and criminal prosecution"

 

A slap on the wrist and an injunction to offer som tam puu pla-ra to all of the colleagues with the 3000 Baht! 

 

[jonstarjon]

3000 for a stamp sounds about right.. Can do this deal at most border checkpoints.

 

[greenchair]

3 hours ago, Jools said:

The sheer number of pedophile cases being reported is going to result in more grief for every expat as they institute mindless new rules to combat such activity. WHY is Thailand a hub for pedophiles in the first place???

 the Thai continue to band aid the symptoms, and refuse to cut out the cancerous cause. 

Dont see foreign pedophiles flocking to my country on a tourist visa. 

 

[cardinalblue]

Why is thailand the hub? Are you seriously asking that question?

 

 

[lucjoker]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Wow so much focus on the corruption of the immigration officials while the bigger problem is that this guy is abusing little boys. Though of course if he had not be able to get into the country he could not have done it in Thailand.

 

Stupid cheesehead for child abuse, I hope you spend a long time in jail. 

a long time?  3000 bht can make time go verry fast   ......

[Yann55]

This story is getting more depressing and disgusting by the minute ...

[soalbundy]

3 hours ago, NCC1701A said:

Give Thailand a few more decades to catch up...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fingerprint#Antiquity_and_the_medieval_period

 

" Fingerprints were used as signatures in ancient Babylon in the second millennium BCE.^[56] In order to protect against forgery, parties to a legal contract would impress their fingerprints into a clay tablet on which the contract had been written."

They were thousands of years ahead of Europe then, not surprising, there is little that is new under the sun.

[Gojo62]

5 hours ago, robblok said:

Maybe those are "of the books no questions asked" extensions because i thought they were only 1.900 if you do it yourself and have all the relevant papers. 

Which is the same as crossing at the Cambodian border which should only be 950 baht but then  a visa runner needs to pays both sets of border guards their cut and it goes up to 1,900, if you try to do it yourself you get grief from both ends because you are doing them out of their cut.
If the guards were not earning so much extra from dishonesty maybe decent guards would be there and perverts would be arrested instead of welcomed.

Edited March 5, 2018 by Gojo62
Addition forgot to write

[Rally123]

6 hours ago, khwaibah said:

And why they are at it ask about the 20K that SI is asking for a retirment extension. Heck SinCity only ask for 12K. Buriram 16K and Korat 15K.

Buriram Immigration are currently asking for 40,000 Baht so I was told. Or may be the guys teerak is putting her  commission on also?

Edited March 5, 2018 by Rally123

[Rally123]

4 hours ago, akirasan said:

Interesting..I use that border crossing quite a bit because it's close.  One thing I noticed was that Cambodian Immigration takes fingerprints on entry and exit but Thailand does not. 

Thailand Immigration does 'Facial Recognition'. If you remember whilst doing your annual extension you no longer have to supply 2 photo's with the application form. You now look into a camera linked to a computer which has your picture on. 

[stament]

Appalling if this is true. 

[Benmart]

6 hours ago, robblok said:

Wow so much focus on the corruption of the immigration officials while the bigger problem is that this guy is abusing little boys. Though of course if he had not be able to get into the country he could not have done it in Thailand.

 

Stupid cheesehead for child abuse, I hope you spend a long time in jail. 

I read he was arrested. No trial, conviction or sentence, yet there are those that have overlooked this minor part of the criminal justice system. Such self annoited experts.

[Benmart]

41 minutes ago, roo860 said:

 

Actually they should try the UK, the police don't seem to want to pursue child grooming etc, might offend the local Muslim community!

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Nothing like clouding the issue with a personal, religious filled agenda.

[TKDfella]

6 hours ago, rkidlad said:

Well, he's in custody now. Not much anyone can do except wait for him to be sentenced and hopefully imprisoned for a long time. The big issue now is did he really pay to enter? If true, this is a big problem that needs a huge amount of focus. 

Quite! How many other offenders might have gotten through by the same method?

[Miss Pickle]

How many others manage to do this I wonder. Well he won't have to make the border crossing again.

[Cadbury]

1 hour ago, Artisi said:

and how many "gifts" can you accept in one day / week / month from the same source - or doesn't that matter as a gift is a gift.

The NACC doesn't seem to specify a limit. Perhaps one a day; who knows.

I am guessing under the definition even one very big "bribe" can be divided into numerous small "gifts" of 3,000 baht each. 

 

[Enoon]

5 hours ago, Jools said:

The sheer number of pedophile cases being reported is going to result in more grief for every expat as they institute mindless new rules to combat such activity. WHY is Thailand a hub for pedophiles in the first place???

 

It will not reflect especially badly on foreigners because the nature of Thai society is that it has historically tolerated and promoted such activity within itself.......and it continues to do so now.

 

It is a hub for "visiting" paedophiles because people go to where the action is:

 

"If you build it they will come" 

                      Shoeless Joe, W P Kinsella.

 

 

[wvavin]

Nobody is surprised! Corruption is at all level in Thailand.

[JOC]

And why they are at it ask about the 20K that SI is asking for a retirment extension. Heck SinCity only ask for 12K. Buriram 16K and Korat 15K.

Buriram Immigration are currently asking for 40,000 Baht so I was told. Or may be the guys teerak is putting her  commission on also?

^^^Quotes

Interesting to see how most posters react to the corrupt immigration officer, who let the Dutch guy cross the border for a small fee......And at the same time openly on a public forum comment on how much it costs to circumvent the immigration law.....

So corruption is acceptable if you benefit from it?

I seriously hope that one day the powers will crack down on this misuse of the system and penalize the officers...and throw the people who not qualify for staying here (according to the law) out of the country.....

[The Teacher]

He should , hung, Halfed and quartered really, scum of the earth. But just goes to show how a few baht can even persuade anyone even in immigration....... Oh so easy

[NanLaew]

What with this Dutch kiddy fiddler bribing a border guard to get in and the gun-toting Swedish drug dealing gang banger turning up at Pattaya police station about 7 years after his 'arrest' to claim his bank account has been pilfered while he was back home in Sweden, it's not really been a stellar start to the week for the RTP at all.

[soalbundy]

1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

What with this Dutch kiddy fiddler bribing a border guard to get in and the gun-toting Swedish drug dealing gang banger turning up at Pattaya police station about 7 years after his 'arrest' to claim his bank account has been pilfered while he was back home in Sweden, it's not really been a stellar start to the week for the RTP at all.

Prayut will put it right, he is doubling down on corruption except if it has to do with watches, watches are different.