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Recently I visited a Dr re my anger issues. Ive noticed over the last yr or 2 that my personality has changed a bit and I get angry very easy these days. I acknowledge that I have anxiety issues that creep up on me. 

 

The dr offered scripts for 'Zoloft' (sertraline) and 'Depakine' (sodium valproate). I declined his offer. He said that both are non addictive. 

 

Has anyone ever taken these before?

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5 hours ago, ubonr1971 said:

'Zoloft' (sertraline)

I take daily 50mg Sertraline for my depression. Seems to work for that. Antidepressants are said not to be addictive but if you come off them, cold turkey, as I did some years back you go through some really bad withdrawal symptoms.

Along with Sertraline, to help me sleep at night, I was given Lorazepam. They are addictive. Took them for about a month and decided to come off them when my Sertraline began to work. Went through 3 days of feeling terrible. 

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2 hours ago, Rally123 said:

I take daily 50mg Sertraline for my depression. Seems to work for that. Antidepressants are said not to be addictive but if you come off them, cold turkey, as I did some years back you go through some really bad withdrawal symptoms.

Along with Sertraline, to help me sleep at night, I was given Lorazepam. They are addictive. Took them for about a month and decided to come off them when my Sertraline began to work. Went through 3 days of feeling terrible. 

Try melatonin 3mg for a good sleep ... I use them myself, before i used  lormetazepam, very happy with it.

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2 minutes ago, Jack Mountain said:

Try melatonin 3mg for a good sleep ... I use them myself, before i used  lormetazepam, very happy with it.

3 mg of melatonin is effective with me if the brand is good.  I don't take it every night b/c I think the body and or brain nay get used to it and adjust. 

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1 hour ago, Jack Mountain said:

Try melatonin 3mg for a good sleep ... I use them myself, before i used  lormetazepam, very happy with it.

I did try it years ago but I never felt any benefits. If it is beneficial then I'm sure my doctor would have recommended it over Lorazepam during this spell of depression.

 

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Melatonin, Lorazepam, Lormetazepam, Sertraline ..... all depressing sounding names. Why dont you gentlemen try rigorus exercise commensurate for your ages? Sweat it out, get tired, have a cold beer. Drink plenty water, laugh a lot, see the positives. You will sleep like a baby.

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28 minutes ago, saakura said:

Why dont you gentlemen try rigorus exercise commensurate for your ages?

Aged 65 and cycles 20+ km, 3 times a week. When not doing that I'm in the garden.

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45 minutes ago, Rally123 said:

Aged 65 and cycles 20+ km, 3 times a week. When not doing that I'm in the garden.

Then what are depressed about, you are living the life that many would dream of. Add some cold beer or a glass of nice wine, good music or a bit of meditation before sleeping. 

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3 hours ago, Rally123 said:

I did try it years ago but I never felt any benefits. If it is beneficial then I'm sure my doctor would have recommended it over Lorazepam during this spell of depression.

 

 

 

The reason that I started with Melatonin was because Lormetazepam (very similar to Lorazepam and a DEPRESSANT as side-effect) was that it was no longer sold over the counter in Thailand. Not sure or it is because of the Melatonin or stopping Lormetazepam but I feel a lot better. My guess is  because i quit the Lormatazepam.

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OP - those are very odd medications to offer for the problem you describe. Nothing wrong with them when used correctly, but nothing you mention indicates a need for either of them.

 

Sertraline is an antidepressent.  It can be helpful for anger issues related to PMDD (pre-menstrual dysphasi disorder) but as yo uare male, non-applicable.

 

Valproic acid is an anti-seizure medication that is also used as a mood stabilizer in bipolar disorder, but nothing you say suggest you have that.

 

What type of doctor was this? A psychiatrist? How much time did he spend investigating your problem?

 

I suggest first of all that you exclude physical causes such as low testosterone, thyroid issue, B12 deficiency. Have your testosterone levels checked, a thyroid panel done and get a serum B12 level (cobalamin). Any hospital or large lab can do these tests.

 

If all these come back normal, then the issue is presumably pyschological and you should see a professional  counselor, for assistance in identifiying  and resolving the causes of your mood changes and anger,  there are some good western ones in Thailand, see

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/90910-mental-health-resource-list/

 

 

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interesting point about the low testosterone...I've noticed that as I've gotten older I've become much more 'impatient' such that I can't handle any stressful activity such as driving...never saw a relationship with low testosterone...

 

I'll havta get that checked out...I've always thought that decreased testosterone was a relief and a benefit of old age...

 

 

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Although most probably outside the normal causes of anger, and not wishing to upset 'uboni1971' could the following be causes in any way, ADHD or Parkinsons ( the former as a child ) ?     Of course certain medications can be cause too.

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Try meditation not everything has a quick fix with a pill . With many issues like anger one must get to the root of things and not just treat symptoms with a drug that will always have side effects . Possibly do some bloodwork also ( like checking fasting glucose , A1C and things like thyroid and markers of inflammation ) it's amazing the drugs you were suggested to take were suggested to you by a Dr. after a visit and no blood work was ordered to see if there were real biological reasons for your issues [emoji15]

 

 

 

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Thanks Nancy , insulin resistance at the root of many emotional and cognitive issue I am seeing . The three test that are really valuable to see the whole picture are 1. Fasting glucose 2. A1C 3. Glucose tolerance test . Each test has its limitations but doing all three cover the big picture regarding insulin resistance with real accuracy .

 

 

 

 

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