BREAKING: Trump ousts Secretary of State Tillerson, taps CIA director Pompeo

[Becker]

9 hours ago, smedly said:

Trump is not conforming to the established elite and they are doing everything they can to remove him, is anyone sick and tired of hearing this BS in the US that has now been going on for almost 2 years....................it is now hard to listen too

 

just like brexit the established elite are trying to throw a spanner in the works there too

 

ordinary people have got to see through this - it really is so obvious 

No, what I'm sick and tired of are people bleetin' on about "the established elite" and how they are working against the man-child and stupidity in general (like the Brexit disaster).

There's a reason totally incompetent moral monstrosities like the man-child in the WH haven't been elected before - it's called sanity. Now that insanity won the day and enough of the less than bright brought a disaster to the nation and the world one can only hope for an impeachment or a heart attack before more harm is done.

[honu]

Given how disgraceful and disgusting Trump is on so many levels it's nice to see uniform disapproval here for him and his outrageous views, statements, and actions. 

 

The real disgrace for America is that roughly a third of the people continue to support him.  They're blind to the fact that he's most definitely not supporting their own best interests, unless they're part of the wealthiest 1%, and then maybe he actually is, depending on how they feel about common good. 

 

His supporters show no concern for whether or not Trump is a decent individual, a pathological liar, or criminal, or anything in between.  It seems to just be a case of us versus them for them, liberal versus conservative, and it doesn't matter what comes up in actual reality, it can all be explained away.

 

 

[Becker]

Whatever I thought of Tillerson he did bring a dose of sanity to an administration led by a particularly evil man-child surrounding himself with an ever dwindling band of grown-ups and replacing them with suck-ups.

When Kelly, McMaster and Mattis are gone it's time to start prepping the Doomsday shelter....seriously. There'll be no adults present.

Anyone read "Lord Of The Flies"?

[Gecko123]

The frustration, anger, pain and humiliation in Tillerson's voice during his press conference spoke volumes about what a hellish experience working in the Trump White House must be. The final nail in the coffin for Trump's laughable claims that he is able to attract the highest quality people into his administration.

[Thakkar]

What’s remarkable about Tillerson’s exit speech was that in the whole nine minutes, he made no specific mention of Trump. 

 

“Didn’t. Mention. Donald. Trump. Sounds like Rex just made a hundred and thirty thousand dollars” ~ Colbert.

 

[billd766]

8 hours ago, smedly said:

your opinion, millions do not agree 

 

Only your opinion.

 

I agree with Jingthing's opinion.

 

Millions more do agree with him.

 

I have no idea how many agree or disagree. Do you?

[puck2]

Unbelievable, Trump is working faster now ...

                                                                                     by firing qualified people!  Baaahhh.

[selftaopath]

This rebel is cool and smart.

 

[joecoolfrog]

10 hours ago, smedly said:

your opinion, millions do not agree 

As opposed to the tens of millions who do agree , nobody in their right mind would argue that Trump was not arrogant and rude.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

As opposed to the tens of millions who do agree , nobody in their right mind would argue that Trump was not arrogant and rude.

Yep, and his supporters like it that way. He's not only dragging the white house down the toilet, he's dragging down the entire country as well. It's truly pathetic that Americans did this to themselves, with help from Putin of course. Own goal on steroids. 

[Thakkar]

12 hours ago, smedly said:

13 hours ago, Jingthing said:

He's not conforming to basic civility and sanity for an everyday person, much less a president.

your opinion, millions do not agree

 

Dang right, man. Calling him “uncivil” is too kind.

 

He is a pathologically dishonest, unqualified, inexperienced, incompetent, domineering, corrupt, bigoted, temperamental  flimflam artist and a greedy impulsive cretinous criminal who is also a solipsistic imbecile with a monumental ego.

 

Am I closer to the mark?

[dunroaming]

20 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Well, an alternative view might be:  how "sane and decent" could any top exec be who is willing to work directly for a miserable troll like Trump.

 

Just saying yes to Trump and having him as one's boss might well be the antithesis of decent and sane.

 

Valid point but we don't know what Tillerson's original brief was.  Maybe Trump told him he was being given free rein and that he wouldn't interfere.  Clearly when he discovered just what a complete moron Trump was he felt compelled to come out and say it! (Which he did). Trump only wants "yes men" and when Tillerson wouldn't do that he had to go.

 

[Thaidream]

Trump wants yes people around him- Tillerson didn't agree with Trump on many issues and said so. Now Trump puts in Mike Pompeo at State-known for kissing Trump's behind- and at CIA a lady whose claim to fame- using water boarding  at a black site and possibly being wanted by the German police for skulduggery under the auspices of the CIA.  

Trump picks the best people- but Tillerson had one thing right- "Trump is a <deleted> moron."

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

12 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

 Maybe Trump told him he was being given free rein and that he wouldn't interfere.

   

[Montnoveau]

22 hours ago, Darcula said:

You just cant get away with calling a moron a moron these days.

Especially not if the moron is a stable genius.

[Morch]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

He's not conforming to basic civility and sanity for an everyday person, much less a president.

 

That would depend on how you define "everyday person". I'd say there are plenty of "everyday persons" who voted for him and will do so again. That's not condoning the way he behaves, just putting the above in perspective. Maybe the problem is that he does conform to the standards of his base - even though I'm sure some of them aren't thrilled with everything he does or the way he does things. Reading these topics, even this one, it is easy to find posts supportive of Trump behavior and conduct. Does it make the people voicing them not "everyday persons"? 

[Morch]

15 hours ago, Jingthing said:

The photo is culturally correct with the dumb American smiling like a crazy man and the Russian not smiling. I don't think Putin has a hairy chest, does he?

 

He shaved it. The things we do for love.

[Morch]

8 hours ago, Sydebolle said:

And - honestly - who cares?

 

Well, the obvious standing answer to this obvious standard deflection would be, as always, Trump. 

[FritsSikkink]

12 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Good move.

 

Tillerson was in favor of too many aspects of the Iran deal to suit Trump.  Plus, Pompeo is pro-life.  A much better Secretary of State.

Never heard more hypocrisy of the people in the pro-life movement  who need a gun so they can kill people if needed.

[boomerangutang]

I thought Tillerson was rather 'asleep at the wheel.' He avoided filling hundreds of positions at State, he couldn't stand up to his boss.  Actually, he worked for (and got his salary from) American taxpayers, NOT TRUMP!

 

   He had near zero experience in foreign policy.  Even with all his flaws and laziness he's the best of Trump's cabinet.  True to form, Trump will assign someone worse.  Guaranteed.

 

Trump fired him in typically Trumpian rude manner, without even telling Tillerson beforehand.  Trump had an aide to it.  Almost as rude as when Trump fired Comey.

 

Tillerson should find some courage and shoot a parting shot across Trump's disgusting bow.  He would be doing Americans a service by telling what he knows about the dangerous dufus.  Unfortunately, he won't. Republicans would all attack him as 'sour grapes.'   So Tillerson slinks off to Texas, and let's Trump set the agenda for a shipwrecked USA.

[ballpoint]

2 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

Dang right, man. Calling him “uncivil” is too kind.

 

He is a pathologically dishonest, unqualified, inexperienced, incompetent, domineering, corrupt, bigoted, temperamental  flimflam artist and a greedy impulsive cretinous criminal who is also a solipsistic imbecile with a monumental ego.

 

Am I closer to the mark?

I'm not sure, it's a little vague.  Try not to beat about the bush so much.

[Thakkar]

13 minutes ago, ballpoint said:

I'm not sure, it's a little vague.  Try not to beat about the bush so much.

Hey man, I’m just saying what everyone’s thinking and not being PC about it. Trump supporters love me for this non-PC, saying-it-like-it-is attitude. Maybe I can be the next president. My one flaw is that, after decades, I’m still lovingly married to my first wife.

[Berkshire]

2 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

Dang right, man. Calling him “uncivil” is too kind.

 

He is a pathologically dishonest, unqualified, inexperienced, incompetent, domineering, corrupt, bigoted, temperamental  flimflam artist and a greedy impulsive cretinous criminal who is also a solipsistic imbecile with a monumental ego.

 

Am I closer to the mark?

Pretty good....but I would add that Trump is also a misogynist, pedo, stupid, un-American, and an absolute coward. 

[Thakkar]

It seems Trump tweet firing Tillerson was in fact a retweet:

 

[Thakkar]

10 minutes ago, Berkshire said:

Pretty good....but I would add that Trump is also a misogynist, pedo, stupid, un-American, and an absolute coward. 

 

I *knew* I was forgetting something.

[Jingthing]

 

That would depend on how you define "everyday person". I'd say there are plenty of "everyday persons" who voted for him and will do so again. That's not condoning the way he behaves, just putting the above in perspective. Maybe the problem is that he does conform to the standards of his base - even though I'm sure some of them aren't thrilled with everything he does or the way he does things. Reading these topics, even this one, it is easy to find posts supportive of Trump behavior and conduct. Does it make the people voicing them not "everyday persons"? 

You didn't exactly get my point. I think about 99 plus percent of people in regular jobs including professionals would be fired for behaving like him. It's relevant that he never worked for a regular boss. Maybe that would have civilized him but of course then he probably wouldn't have been president. He timed the desire for an unhinged demagogue perfectly.

 

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[Morch]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

You didn't exactly get my point. I think about 99 percent of people in regular jobs including professionals would be fired for behaving like him. It's relevant that he never worked for a regular boss. Maybe that would have civilized him but of course then he probably wouldn't have been president. He timed the desire for an unhinged demagogue perfectly.

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I think that when it comes to his outrageous conduct, he embodies the fantasies of many "everyday persons". Probably more so among some socioeconomic segments of society.

[Jingthing]

 
I think that when it comes to his outrageous conduct, he embodies the fantasies of many "everyday persons". Probably more so among some socioeconomic segments of society.

OK. Sometimes fantasies should be kept behind closed doors. He's a mess and he's inflicting long term damage.

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[Thakkar]

Tillerson: "Trump is a f@#*ing moron"
Trump: "He's fine. He can stay."

Tillerson: "I blame Putin for nerve gas attack in UK"
Trump: "How dare you say a word against Putin? YOU'RE FIRED!"

[lannarebirth]

6 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Yep, and his supporters like it that way. He's not only dragging the white house down the toilet, he's dragging down the entire country as well. It's truly pathetic that Americans did this to themselves, with help from Putin of course. Own goal on steroids. 

Own goal, sure; but what's changed that brought that about?

 

https://www.counterpunch.org/2018/03/12/democrats-and-the-crisis-of-legitimacy/