snoop1130 Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 "Special forces" and "Thetsakit" to enforce 2,000 baht Pattaya smoking ban fines from April Pattaya City council have announced that what they called special forces will team up with infamous thetsakit (municipal officers) to fine people caught throwing cigarette butts on Jomtien's Dong Tan beach. Though 100,000 baht fines and the threat of jail time has been abandoned for now, the special teams will have the power to demand 2,000 baht on the spot after decisions made at City Hall yesterday. The move is likely to ignite fears that unscrupulous officers may attempt to extort tourists. But to soften the blow the local authority plan some nice dances and yoga showcasing the wonderful Thai culture on April 2nd. Pattaya News said that the softly softly approach taken from the start of February would be a thing of the past from the first Monday in April. They described this as the "first zone" seemingly indicating that more would follow in the campaign to clean up the resorts' beaches. Deputy mayor Banthit Khunjak announced three special forces operatives would be patrolling with regular thetsakit staff. They would use CCTV to help them nail smoking miscreants. Signage was shown to the press in English, Thai and Chinese - this said "no pets, smoke free, zero waste and 2,000 baht fined (sic)". City Hall have the 224 operators on the beach as willing helpers in the campaign. They are collaborating in making April 2nd a day to remember on the beach and nearby public areas. In the morning there will be an exhibition of Thai dance followed by a community clear up. In the evening there will be a demonstration of something termed "Smart Yoga" by Viva Studio. Thaivisa notes that "thetsakit" officers in places like Bangkok have been key in fining tourists 2,000 baht for dropping butts in tourist areas like upper Sukhumvit. Many people believe that only tourists are targeted and if Thais are in fact fined, they pay much less. Source: http://www.pattayanews.com/content/25203 -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-3-14 1
Popular Post champers Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 The saga continues. Pets now included. Dogs will have to find somewhere else to take a dump... and have a smoke. 9
Popular Post overherebc Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 Special Moto. Who Dares Smokes. 3 3
Popular Post ezflip Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 1 hour ago, snoop1130 said: Many people believe that only tourists are targeted and if Thais are in fact fined, they pay much less. The proof is in the pudding, as they say. 1 1 1 1
Darcula Posted March 14, 2018 Posted March 14, 2018 Empowering the "thetsakit". The cows are coming home to Pattaya. 1
Popular Post poanoi Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 i'm a former smoker, and a foreigner will invariably throw a cigarette butt in an ash tray, and litter in a trash can, so long as there is any trash can & ash tray around. i also believe thais can be trained to throw litter in a trash can so long as there is any trash can around, and negligence result in a fine 20 2 1
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 Will they plant cigarette butts as false evidence? Two of the guys against your word and they'll have plenty of pocket money for a night out! 2 1 2
Popular Post StayinThailand2much Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Darcula said: Empowering the "thetsakit". The cows are coming home to Pattaya. Did you mean 'buffalo'? 2 3
Popular Post Henrik Andersen Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, snoop1130 said: special forces will team Wow if you not pay now we we shoot you down sorry Thailand but why not start with your own citizens there dumb garbish and dogs everywhere on the beach and play music from the car's and driving mao home do you really want lose all your tourists and income Wake up it is mostly Thai people there don't respect the law, police, environment etc 17 1
Popular Post swissie Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 3 hours ago, champers said: The saga continues. Pets now included. Dogs will have to find somewhere else to take a dump... and have a smoke. Soi Dogs are being considered "Thai-Nationals". Therefore they will not be fined if they poop, smoke or have sex on the beach. Farangs are not allowed to do all those things. So, compared to Soi Dogs, Farangs are the true "underdogs" of the Thai- Beaches. Feeling unwelcome at the beach, and who can blame them, Farangs are practically forced onto bar-stools and into the arms and charms of Hostesses. At least as long as Pattaya has not fully established itself as an Family/Sports Resort. Cheers. 1 7
Popular Post Chelseafan Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 Why would anyone want to visit the beaches in Pattaya and Jomtien anyhow. Cigarette butts are the least of the concerns. This is a smokescreen to cover up the underlying issues of poor sanitation, constant flooding and a general two-thumbs up at Mr and Mrs Farang. I would rather smoke a packet of 20 than swim in the sea....Perhaps when the Thai's have their own house in order THEN they can berate the foreigners. 17 1 1
Popular Post Dexlowe Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 This is not going to end well if the thetsakij in Bangkok are any guideline. Give a Thai power, especially unregulated or uncontrolled power such as being proposed here, and it will be abused. Sorry apologists, but that is well proven and documented, not to mention backed up by lots of anecdotal evidence and personal experiences. Many Thai males love to push around foreigners, and this is the kind of job they will gravitate to. I don't expect that these people will be trained in any way whatsoever, just unleashed on an unsuspecting public. Can't wait for the stories to start flooding in. 14 2 1
Popular Post stanleycoin Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 Shame they can't find a Special Task force . To stop there Citizens and tourists being killed on the roads around pattaya. Total numpties in charge. you should be ashamed of yourselves. 8 1 1
Popular Post Prairieboy Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 10 hours ago, snoop1130 said: infamous thetsakit (municipal officers) Interesting to note that 'sakit' in Bahasa Indonesia means 'sick'! 2 1
Popular Post cookieqw Posted March 14, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 14, 2018 if you take a ride round the back steets of pattaya you will see garbage dumped all over the place, this is not farang doing it, this is thais doing this 13
crazykopite Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 Special forces ! No doubt parachuting down from the sky when they spot you flicking your fag end onto the sand . No dartboards , No Bridge clubs , and now no smoking on the Beaches no wonder the adverts tell the world “ Amazing Thailand “ ? 1
jacko45k Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, stanleycoin said: Shame they can't find a Special Task force . To stop there Citizens and tourists being killed on the roads around pattaya. Total numpties in charge. you should be ashamed of yourselves. Perhaps they can keep an eye out for jet-ski scammers and massage ladies pilfering at the same time. 1 1
Popular Post DoctorG Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 15, 2018 They are learning . Instead of starting this off on April 1st they are doing it on the 2nd. Why? Because they know farangs would have great fun calling them April Fools. 3 2 2
Dararasmi Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 10 hours ago, ezflip said: The proof is in the pudding, as they say. Yes, and they're wrong. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. 2
Popular Post phetpeter Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 15, 2018 The answer is the expats hanging around in Pattaya should set up the own patrol to follow them and VDO their actions, and the failings when Thai's are ignored. Watch them closely, prove that providing bins and ashtrays that the teams could empty every hour would be a much better idea, than seeking around trying to squeeze money out of people. 3
Popular Post yellowboat Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 15, 2018 9 hours ago, poanoi said: i'm a former smoker, and a foreigner will invariably throw a cigarette butt in an ash tray, and litter in a trash can, so long as there is any trash can & ash tray around. i also believe thais can be trained to throw litter in a trash can so long as there is any trash can around, and negligence result in a fine Sometimes I walk miles without finding a garbage can. Tons of refuse makes its way to the ocean compliments of Thailand and nearby countries. Dust bins need to be made available and yes people can be trained to use them, but only question is when ? Thailand dumps a hug amounts untreated sewage into the ocean everyday. For a normal person like yourself, it is hard to understand the misplaced set of priorities and hypocrisy. 3
lvr181 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: They are collaborating in making April 2nd a day to remember on the beach and nearby public areas. You can bet it will be a day to remember for some innocents!
lvr181 Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, yellowboat said: Sometimes I walk miles without finding a garbage can. Tons of refuse makes its way to the ocean compliments of Thailand and nearby countries. Dust bins need to be made available and yes people can be trained to use them, but only question is when ? Thailand dumps a hug amounts untreated sewage into the ocean everyday. For a normal person like yourself, it is hard to understand the misplaced set of priorities and hypocrisy. I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunately there are some ThaiVisa fawning sycophants of the PM (who has "helped farmers") who seemingly cannot acknowledge the massive failings of current leadership - some 'good' is being outweighed by too much 'no good'/hypocrisy/ineffective action etc., etc. 2
oldlakey Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 1 hour ago, DoctorG said: They are learning . Instead of starting this off on April 1st they are doing it on the 2nd. Why? Because they know farangs would have great fun calling them April Fools. The date is immaterial as far as that goes 2
jobwolf Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 12 hours ago, overherebc said: Special Moto. Who Dares Smokes. Let's not forget the A rmored cars and an Aircraft carrier in the sea so nobody can escape by floating away on a cigarette butttt! 1
overherebc Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 2 minutes ago, jobwolf said: Let's not forget the A rmored cars and an Aircraft carrier in the sea so nobody can escape by floating away on a cigarette butttt! Will it be 'A Beach Too Far' 1
helloagain Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 12 hours ago, champers said: The saga continues. Pets now included. Dogs will have to find somewhere else to take a dump... and have a smoke. Im happy no dogs. And i not want to be near a smoker. Now please no smoking in bars or restuarants as well. Lets now ban screaming kids and thais who leave their weekend rubbish on the beaches as well 1
Popular Post overherebc Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 15, 2018 7 minutes ago, helloagain said: Im happy no dogs. And i not want to be near a smoker. Now please no smoking in bars or restuarants as well. Lets now ban screaming kids and thais who leave their weekend rubbish on the beaches as well Especially screaming kids who smoke, take their soi dog with them and throw rubbish all over the place. 4
Popular Post ricklev Posted March 15, 2018 Popular Post Posted March 15, 2018 Thetsakit in Bangkok make sure there are no waste bins or ashtrays in the areas they work. They work in teams tracking anyone they see smoking. Very effective system ...... of gaining income from tourists. In their fight against cigarette butts, they (along with tourist families and their children) walk past stands openly selling sex toys, displays of sex dvds and illegal pharmaceuticals, in order to to nab the miscreant smoker. 4 1
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