Former FBI No.2 McCabe fired; claims he is being targeted

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, punchjudy said:

The feebies are mostly democrats

Making it up as you go, truth is not important.

Edited March 17, 2018 by stevenl

[riclag]

1 hour ago, Thakkar said:

Mueller: Republican 

Comey: Republican

McCabe: Republican

Rosenstein, whom all three answer to: Republican

Where have you been for three years! Some republicans despise PT .

Lets see Comey and Mc for sure.While Mueller was debatable,now suspicious because of his  very close ties with Comey .Rosentein is the straw man.

[Thingamabob]

McCabe should not have lied to his own people at the FBI (The Office of Professional Responsibility/OPR). Big mistake.

[InnerCynic]

6 hours ago, oilinki said:

This is purely sending message: "Don't investigate my matters, or I will punish you personally."

 

 

 

Perhaps.  But this louse has been running "cover" for other rats long before this well deserved termination.  He and other corrupt agents, including the former director Comey, are on the radar screen for obstruction, illegal intelligence gathering and passing of said "intel" to the press and their cohorts, whomever they may be.  Plenty of criminality and out and out conflicts of interest with this individual and his wife.

 

 

 

 

[riclag]

and that mc, was gonna get 2 mil for retirement lol.Give it to the rank and file FBI agents that don't meet the 10 year minimum for pension.better served  

[stevenl]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

Where have you been for three years! Some republicans despise PT .

Lets see Comey and Mc for sure.While Mueller was debatable,now suspicious because of his  very close ties with Comey .Rosentein is the straw man.

Somebody claims they're all democrats, claim easily refuted. 

You use that reply for your usual Trump defense, but the comments had nothing to do with your hero.

 

On top of that, your claim is nonsense. They are all professionals, rosenstein the possible exception.

[jackh]

The ORD (not Trump) got him fired. Laughable Democrat/Hillary response.."I am a victim!" Sad

 

He got caught red handed and firing is the least of his problems. Soon he will be indicted, along with a host of other criminals within the FBI. 

 

McCabe will soon be singing like a canary, and the DOJ and FBI house of cards is coming down. The swamp is going to get drained. 

 

What a glorious day!

[Grumpy Duck]

7 hours ago, FritsSikkink said:

Still not clear to you that the biggest trash is in the WH?

And in the house intelligence committee leadership. The WH lapdogs. Yes Nunes talking about you 

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, jackh said:

The ORD (not Trump) got him fired. Laughable Democrat/Hillary response.."I am a victim!" Sad

 

He got caught red handed and firing is the least of his problems. Soon he will be indicted, along with a host of other criminals within the FBI. 

 

McCabe will soon be singing like a canary, and the DOJ and FBI house of cards is coming down. The swamp is going to get drained. 

 

What a glorious day!

What a load of nonsense.

[jackh]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

What a load of nonsense.

SO sorry for you that truth is hard to swallow. More to come stay tuned brother. Crying towels at the ready please.

 

[riclag]

39 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Somebody claims they're all democrats, claim easily refuted. 

You use that reply for your usual Trump defense, but the comments had nothing to do with your hero.

 

On top of that, your claim is nonsense. They are all professionals, rosenstein the possible exception.

Sorry for the first part.But since when are professionals totally, undeniably, exclusive from lying  ,misleading and criminal acts? Oh another thing he isn't my hero!!! He is simply the messenger of the message. Keep America Great!

Edited March 17, 2018 by riclag

[sirineou]

If this was not vindictive retribution why fire him two days before his retirement? What's the matter this could not wait two days?

[riclag]

8 minutes ago, sirineou said:

If this was not vindictive retribution why fire him two days before his retirement? What's the matter this could not wait two days?

  One important thing to mention is the 2 million+ in retirement bennies he wished he had! If waiting after the 2 days there would of been more rights afforded to him

Edited March 17, 2018 by riclag

[Thakkar]

47 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Somebody claims they're all democrats, claim easily refuted. 

You use that reply for your usual Trump defense, but the comments had nothing to do with your hero.

 

On top of that, your claim is nonsense. They are all professionals, rosenstein the possible exception.

 

Investigators are upstanding, unimpeachable professionals when they are investigating  Clinton. Not so much when they’re investigating Trump, or when they are possible future witnesses against him.

 

Polls are reliable when they show trump in a good light. Bogus when they don’t.

 

Wall Street bankers are swamp rats when they donate to or work in a democratic administration, but swamp-destroying heroes when they donate to or work for Republican administrations.

 

Republicans are true blue Americans when when they are obsequious towards Trump. The same Republicans are scum when they criticize Trump.

 

The intelligence community is part of a nefarious Deep State when they assess that Russia interfered in the American election to help Trump. They are right on the money when they accuse Obama of ignoring their warnings failing to act to curb Russian  cyberattacks. When Trump fails to act to curb continuing Russian cyberattacks, the retort is, “what cyberattacks?”

Edited March 17, 2018 by Thakkar

[thaiguzzi]

6 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

Trump is a vindictive, acrimonious, petty, reactionary, puerile, rancorous, spiteful, grudge-holding, malignant, immature, sadistic asshat mean-girl-type little man.

Bit harsh.

Harsh, but fair....

[Thakkar]

4 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Bit harsh.

Harsh, but fair....

 

Admitedly, the last word is inaccurate; he’s not much of a man.

[Mansell]

And Trump celebrating the man probably losing his pension after twenty years.....what a nasty little petty excuse for a man. The quicker this so called president is gone is good for the country to get back on track. What a PIG.

[Jack Mountain]

11 minutes ago, Mansell said:

And Trump celebrating the man probably losing his pension after twenty years.....what a nasty little petty excuse for a man. The quicker this so called president is gone is good for the country to get back on track. What a PIG.

As a non-american i would say, if your assumption is true, let him stay a while longer. And that FBI loser can always join the ENRON club and cry/dream about their lost pension ... which he don't need btw ...

[riclag]

24 minutes ago, Mansell said:

And Trump celebrating the man probably losing his pension after twenty years.....what a nasty little petty excuse for a man. The quicker this so called president is gone is good for the country to get back on track. What a PIG.

Actually there is more coming with the IG report. More damning!

  What do you suppose the outrage should be,the lying and misinformation given by McCabe the number 2 in command of the FBI to congressional committees and American people  that the FBI 's Office Of Professional Responsibility(OPR) found that was egregious and warranted his firing or PT nasty celebrating comments? 

Edited March 17, 2018 by riclag

[riclag]

Where is the outrage by the democrats,for the reason of firing this career professional that dirtied the Intel agencies and the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility . Why aren't they condemning him for making  an "unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor − including under oath − on multiple occasions" ?

Edited March 17, 2018 by riclag

[JCauto]

9 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Yes, he was correctly  targeted all right for covering up Clinton email details and telling falsehoods before Congress. 

Good to see that you agree that anyone who covers up crimes and lies before Congress should be brought up before the courts and punished for their crimes. Just remember that standard in a couple of months when it is applied to those whom you like.

[Trouble]

9 hours ago, Thakkar said:

 

McCabe had ALREADY succumbed to mounting pressure and announced his retirement months in advance. Trump had already won. But it wasn’t enough: he wanted to spit in his face as well.

 

and the reason given for his firing by Trump the liar in chief—That he had lied? Really?  And by Sessions, the man who lied to Congress under oath about the very consequential matter of a secret meeting with Russi’s top man in Washington?

McCabe retired trying to get out and keep his pension.  He would have never retired if he wasn't worried about being fired and he simply was trying to beat the clock.  Trump did not fire McCabe. His termination was recommended by the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility, a panel of career, non-politically appointed FBI officials. Seemingly this was based on the IG Report which is due out this month. This is not a Trump vendetta but results from an investigation from within the FBI of unethical and bias political conduct in the nation's top law enforcement agency.  Rather than jumping to conclusions and trying to blame Trump let's wait and see what is revealed from the IG report. 

 

Your obvious hatred for Trump should not blind you to the possibility that people in high positions in the FBI may have acted inappropriately, unethically, and possibly criminally in effecting outcomes of investigations or elections.  Try to look at the bigger picture here. McCabe was not fired on a whim of Trump (although he is obviously delighted about it). This all goes deeper and has seriously tarnished the credibility of the FBI.  McCabe will certainly sue in court in an attempt to get his pension and his statements about a Trump vendetta are an attempt to deflect from what will come out as to why Office of Professional Responsibility recommended his employment be terminated.  Let's just wait and see what is revealed next.

[bendejo]

I fear for him.  DT has friends who are not at all shy about final solutions. 

Stay out of UK, McCabe!

 

 

[arithai12]

Who needs soap operas, when we can watch US politics...

 

Unfortunately, however, they are for real.

[mtls2005]

50% Revenge.

 

50% discredit witness McCabe's future testimony.

 

 

[Thakkar]

8 hours ago, Trouble said:

McCabe retired trying to get out and keep his pension.  He would have never retired if he wasn't worried about being fired and he simply was trying to beat the clock.  Trump did not fire McCabe. His termination was recommended by the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility, a panel of career, non-politically appointed FBI officials. Seemingly this was based on the IG Report which is due out this month. This is not a Trump vendetta but results from an investigation from within the FBI of unethical and bias political conduct in the nation's top law enforcement agency.  Rather than jumping to conclusions and trying to blame Trump let's wait and see what is revealed from the IG report. 

 

Your obvious hatred for Trump should not blind you to the possibility that people in high positions in the FBI may have acted inappropriately, unethically, and possibly criminally in effecting outcomes of investigations or elections.  Try to look at the bigger picture here. McCabe was not fired on a whim of Trump (although he is obviously delighted about it). This all goes deeper and has seriously tarnished the credibility of the FBI.  McCabe will certainly sue in court in an attempt to get his pension and his statements about a Trump vendetta are an attempt to deflect from what will come out as to why Office of Professional Responsibility recommended his employment be terminated.  Let's just wait and see what is revealed next.

 

Here are some pertinent facts you can look up from various mainstream sources. I don’t know if any outlet has all this in one place, but I’ve aggregated the info from a number of reports:

 

In Feb 2017 (after the inauguration) the inspector general launched an investigation into how the FBI handled the investigation of Clinton emails (or the Clinton Foundation—I forget which). In the course of that, the inspector general became aware that in October of 2016 the WSJ was working on a  story about the state of the Clinton investigation and suggesting that the FBI was dragging its feet (something that would be of benefit to the Trump campaign). McCabe had authorized an official but inappropriate response to the WSJ (a response Trump people are insisting was a “leak”) to deny this assertion. Later, when asked about this by Congress, McCabe was less than forthcoming about this, and, on this narrow ground, the inspector general made the recommendation to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility that he be fired. The OPR concurred. McCabe appealed to The DOJ, and the DOJ upheld the recommendation.

 

I have no sympathy for Trump, Comey or McCabe, but these are the facts.

 

Trump was right months ago when he tweeted that McCabe was running out the clock. He was, and under normal circumstances, would have done so. But the DOJ review was accelerated (do we even need to wonder by whose orders?) and McCabe was fired late at night, 26 hours before his retirement kicked in. That is mean girl behavior unbecoming of anyone above 13 years of age, let alone a president.

 

The other (more insidious) reason for the firing and making of a big hoopla of it is to discredit (at least in the eyes of his supporters) a potential witness in a future obstruction of justice case against Trump.

 

Note that McCabe’s initial action was to the detriment of Clinton and a benefit to Trump, whether it may or may not have been designed to be.

 

Coincidentally, this “unfairness to Clinton” was the official reason given for the firing of Comey.

 

What it looks like is that these guys were pro Trump and that Trump does not like it. Presumably, he would’ve liked them to be more fair to Clinton and less helpful to his presidential campaign, even if that help was inadvertent.

[buick]

20 hours ago, rooster59 said:

McCabe's dismissal came two days before his 50th birthday, when he would have been eligible to retire from the Federal Bureau of Investigation with his full pension. The firing - which comes nine months after Trump fired Comey - puts McCabe's pension in jeopardy.

 

20 hours ago, rooster59 said:

He called for me to be stripped of my pension after more than 20 years of service.

 

the first quote above comes from the author of the OP.  the second quote comes from the OP but is McCabe's memo.

 

i've read on other sources that the pension issue is that he will not be able to draw it at age 50.  he'll have to wait until a later age (i think it was between 57 and 60, depending on certain factors).  i understand that the words 'jeopardy' and 'stripped' can apply to this scenario but they could also be construed to mean he loses his entire pension and is never able to draw a penny.  which is not the case.  losing 10 years of your pension is a big deal, not trying to minimize that either.  but i haven't seen many reports in the media mention that he is still eligible for a pension.  which is true.

[lannarebirth]

7 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

 

The other (more insidious) reason for the firing and making of a big hoopla of it is to discredit (at least in the eyes of his supporters) a potential witness in a future obstruction of justice case against Trump.

 

 

I don't doubt they may have tried to discredit a potential witness by firing him, but that's not going to fly. His credibility will be established...or not, by the contents of the IG report. If there's no "there" there it's going to come off as a pretty obvious case of obstruction. So, I'm thinking there's probably something in there. Either that or we are witnessing the death throes of this presidency.

[Thakkar]

2 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I don't doubt they may have tried to discredit a potential witness by firing him, but that's not going to fly. His credibility will be established...or not, by the contents of the IG report. If there's no "there" there it's going to come off as a pretty obvious case of obstruction. So, I'm thinking there's probably something in there. Either that or we are witnessing the death throes of this presidency.

I agree that this will not discredit the witness in a a legal sense. This is why I mentioned the part about discrediting him in the eyes of Trump supporters. His cult is all Trump’s got now, and the fear that they’ll revolt in his favor is what’s keeping many Republicans in line. At this point I guess Trump is fighting a rearguard battle to protect what he can.

[lannarebirth]

3 minutes ago, buick said:

 

 

the first quote above comes from the author of the OP.  the second quote comes from the OP but is McCabe's memo.

 

i've read on other sources that the pension issue is that he will not be able to draw it at age 50.  he'll have to wait until a later age (i think it was between 57 and 60, depending on certain factors).  i understand that the words 'jeopardy' and 'stripped' can apply to this scenario but they could also be construed to mean he loses his entire pension and is never able to draw a penny.  which is not the case.  losing 10 years of your pension is a big deal, not trying to minimize that either.  but i haven't seen many reports in the media mention that he is still eligible for a pension.  which is true.

 

I'm not sure why federal employees or even non disabled military members can draw a pension at such a young age. I've known Army veterans who started drawing lifelong pensions at 38 years of age. I'm not disputing they deserve a pension, but why wouldn't that pension kick in at a much older age, say 60 or 65. They should be given some kind of severance, say 6 months pay till they land their next situation but their pension shouldn't be payable till much later IMO.