Pattaya expat threatened with jail after posting negative restaurant review online

[Jai Dee]

One post slagging off the Forum for lack of journalistic integrity has been removed from this thread.

 

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[HLover]

10 hours ago, soistalker said:

75 year old Belgian in a wifebeater trying to mime to his latest Boyztown acquisition that he's interested in anal

Laughed out loud, thank you for this mornings giggles.

Well said post, enjoy your wife's cooking!

[Spaniel]

I'd like to know the restaurant name too.

[tropo]

8 hours ago, pistachios said:

Wait. You can't be possibly that clueless.

 

 

LOL> You really think I own a pizza restaurant.  

 

I have had experience with a defamation case, both civil and criminal, unrelated to pizza restaurants, so I was merely offering some information on how such cases proceed.

 

 

Edited March 28, 2018 by tropo

[tropo]

2 hours ago, Henryford said:

What about firms like Lazada. On every item you buy there are reviews from previous buyers. Some give 1 star bad reviews. Are they all prosecuted?

I think they are anonymous reviews and Lazada would be the only entity liable for prosecution. I never rate anything on Lazada.

[captspectre]

maybe he should have posted" my pet maggot was not really pleased with the service or the food. "

 

[HLover]

Tell the truth=go to jail.

Normally the police do not care about farang on farang squabbling.  Interested how this plays out, but I'll guess someone will end up making a donation to the coffers.

Good help isn't free.

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, HLover said:

Tell the truth=go to jail.

 

Has the guy been sent to jail ?

[HLover]

Just now, sanemax said:

Has the guy been sent to jail ?

Threatened with jail, I was playing journalist and embellishing.

 

Perhaps if he is sent the jail he can do review from jail.

Example:

Oh, the fish head gruel was very good today and somchai didn't rape me too much last night.

[tropo]

7 minutes ago, HLover said:

Tell the truth=go to jail.

Normally the police do not care about farang on farang squabbling.  Interested how this plays out, but I'll guess someone will end up making a donation to the coffers.

Good help isn't free.

The police have nothing to do with this. They have 90 days to start a criminal case and a year for a civil case.

[HLover]

2 minutes ago, tropo said:

The police have nothing to do with this. They have 90 days to start a criminal case and a year for a civil case.

I was not aware of this.

[tropo]

1 minute ago, HLover said:

I was not aware of this.

It's easy here... just hire a lawyer and start the criminal action directly with the court.

[VocalNeal]

18 hours ago, Easy Come Easy Go said:

So the internet should be a place where only posting positive things like images of puppies or cats is permitted? Nobody can voice their opinion on a meal they have just eaten?? If you run a business such as a restaurant, you should expect and deal with differing opinions and reactions. It is par for the course, especially if you serve up a shoddy or subpar service 

 

You are naive if you believe that only "customers" write reviews. So do their competitors, people wishing to gain financially et al. It is not as simple or as innocent as it sounds.

 

It should be like employees? Praise in public, criticise in private. 

Edited March 28, 2018 by VocalNeal

[Gecko123]

Jingthing: There but for the grace of God go I.

[sanemax]

40 minutes ago, HLover said:

Threatened with jail, I was playing journalist and embellishing.

Perhaps if he is sent the jail he can do review from jail.

Example:

Oh, the fish head gruel was very good today and somchai didn't rape me too much last night.

The threat came from the restaurant owner , there is quite a big difference between someone threatening to take legal action and actually  being sent to jail .

   Talk is cheap

[sanemax]

18 hours ago, Easy Come Easy Go said:

So the internet should be a place where only posting positive things like images of puppies or cats is permitted? Nobody can voice their opinion on a meal they have just eaten??

No, it shouldnt .

[gamesgplayemail]

On 3/27/2018 at 10:46 AM, mikebell said:

If that doesn't work there's always guns.  The name of this restaurant MUST become public knowledge and be dealt with by the Court of Public Opinion.

 

Can someone PM me the name of restaurant ? I want to be sure to boycott this d#ckhead. Thank you.

[travelman6]

Join Tripadvisor and put our review there. I guess there is no such thing as free speech in Thailand.

[gamesgplayemail]

I write negative reviews all the time. How can people be stupid enough to use their real name on facebook or any forum is beyond understanding. Maybe they were Thai in their former life...

 

 

 

[InMyShadow]

Telling the truth comes with a heavy price, as witnessed on numerous occasions.

An you know it's true because?

[Crash999]

4 minutes ago, gamesgplayemail said:

 

Can someone PM me the name of restaurant ? I want to be sure to boycott this d#ckhead. Thank you.

Same here. Don’t want to support a business that would take this sort of approach with their customers. 

[PatOngo]

5 minutes ago, InMyShadow said:

An you know it's true because?
 

Andy Hall told me!

[4MyEgo]

o·pin·ion

əˈpinyən/

noun

 

1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.

   "I'm writing to voice my opinion on an issue of great importance"

   synonyms:

   belief, judgment, thought(s), (way of) thinking, mind, (point of) view, viewpoint, outlook, attitude, stance, position, perspective, persuasion, standpoint; More

   • the beliefs or views of a large number or majority of people about a particular thing.

     "the changing climate of opinion"
   • an estimation of the quality or worth of someone or something.

     "I had a higher opinion of myself than I deserved"

      

     def·a·ma·tion

     ˌdefəˈmāSH(ə)n/

     noun

     noun: defamation; plural noun: defamations

     1. the action of damaging the good reputation of someone; slander or libel.

        "she sued him for defamation"

        synonyms:

        libel, slander, calumny, character assassination, vilification;More   So best keeps ones opinion to ones self in Thailand, in other words YOUR honest opinion about my food will see you in court being sued for defamation, go figure, no free speech in this country oy !

Edited March 28, 2018 by 4MyEgo

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Gecko123 said:

Jingthing: There but for the grace of God go I.

Is that a threat? 

[InMyShadow]

Andy Hall told me!

Case closed!

[evadgib]

16 hours ago, tropo said:

Yes, it's my restaurant. Would you like all the details of the legal action too?

Somehow I doubt it if the rest of the thread is to be believed.

[Jingthing]

Hi there,

 

A member kindly provided me a CLUE about what the offending review might have been. I'm not sure so take this with a groan of salt.

 

Anyway, based on my reading of what MIGHT be the offending review, I can better understand why the owner would be pissed off. I'm not condoning or approving any lawsuits over reviews of course, but the thing that struck me as crossing a line was getting into posting unfavorable impressions about the personality/character of the owner in a personal way.

 

That is something I would hope people would avoid in restaurant reviews. It's one thing saying the service was really slow but to get personal and insulting about a specific person whose identity is easily known is another. I would certainly avoid doing that online and it's something that I would consider a post that should be removed and reported if it happens on this forum (which, BTW, it has).

 

Just my two cents and quite possibly barking up the wrong tree because I don't have confirmation that what I'm commenting on was the thing. 

 

Cheers 

Edited March 28, 2018 by Jingthing

[Gecko123]

57 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Is that a threat? 

No, not at all. It was meant as a joke reference to your hit and run restaurant review thread which I assume must have some negative reviews on it.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, Gecko123 said:

No, not at all. It was meant as a joke reference to your hit and run restaurant review thread which I assume must have some negative reviews on it.

I know. I'd rather not think about it! 

Like I said above I strongly discourage people from making insulting personal comments about staff or owners at restaurants about people that can be specifically identified! 

Edited March 28, 2018 by Jingthing

[pistachios]

4 hours ago, tropo said:

LOL> You really think I own a pizza restaurant.  

 

I have had experience with a defamation case, both civil and criminal, unrelated to pizza restaurants, so I was merely offering some information on how such cases proceed.

 

 

Nothing in your several posts was indicating you were joking. And then in a following post you said "nothing is forcing someone to write a bad review on the internet" which is baffling coming from someone born in a country with freedom of speech. Would have made sense coming from that idiotic restaurant owner.