HIV positive Thai prostitute had sex with “dozens of men”

[OldSiamHand]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

It’s safe. 

go for it!

[Media1]

in Thailand a hooker infected s tourist he went to police. They confirmed yes she is responsible. They fined her 500 BAHT 

Next customer please

They try to get 1000 off a bike. There not police

[bkk6060]

6 minutes ago, watcharacters said:

 

 

Silly question.

 

The  purpose of the thread is not to name and shame but rather to offer positive suggestions to those who naturally have a closed mind about using condoms.

 

I've heard so many fellows say they don't use condoms because they "don't like them".    BRILLIANT!

Thai is not the purpose of the thread at all it has morphed into that.

[watcharacters]

3 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Thai is not the purpose of the thread at all it has morphed into that.

 

 

Again please.

No idea what you mean.

 

Please take the time to fully express yourself clearly.

Edited April 5, 2018 by watcharacters

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, OldSiamHand said:

go for it!

No thanks. 

 

I don't use prostitutes. 

 

For reasons that have nothing to do with fear of contracting STDs/HIV. 

Edited April 5, 2018 by Bluespunk

[OldSiamHand]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

No thanks. 

 

I dont use prostitutes. . 

Not the point.  

[lamyai3]

8 minutes ago, OldSiamHand said:

For you, yes.  Bad advice for others, especially given that condoms have up to a 6% chance of the condom not being effective as mentioned in your link, a risk that still exists even if you use it correctly. 

It's good advice for everyone who is sexually active, and by far the safest way to protect yourself from STD's other than abstinence.

 

Aside from the fact that the chances of finding out someone you had casual sex with in the past turned out to be HIV positive are extremely unlikely, the figure of condom failure you're quoting is a muddle, since it throws breakage, slippage and leakage into a single category. Breakage and slippage are certainly a risk. Slippage would be a risk in a place like Thailand where the local men are often too small for the condoms. For most foreigners the biggest problem is likely to be breakage due to incorrect usage, for instance vigorous sex after getting air trapped in the end, or perhaps using the wrong kind of lubricant. Huge amount of misinformation on this - anything oil based, from baby oil to body lotion will break down and destroy the latex within a few minutes.

 

The good news is, if condom failure occurs in either of the above ways you'll know about it right away. If you don't feel the difference, you'll see it as soon as you withdraw.

 

The third possible failure quoted, due to leakage is pretty much nonsense. This was a possibility in the case when natural membranes were used, but latex properly used isn't porous. Read here how this myth came into being, by mixing up data from latex gloves with that of latex condoms which are manufactured in a different way. Bottom line is condoms are considered safe when properly used, by every authority on the subject:

 

http://www.thebody.com/Forums/AIDS/SafeSex/Q199734.html

[Bluespunk]

Just now, OldSiamHand said:

Not the point.  

Then explain your comment of

 

”go for it”

[OldSiamHand]

Just now, Bluespunk said:

Then explain your comment of

 

”go for it”

It means this is great advice for you, poor advice for anyone with an ounce of reason.

 

In your world, if you found out you had protected sex with someone who was HIV positive, you would "rest easy" if you felt that you used the condom correctly.

 

A reasonable person would still get checked after a few months, because condoms are not foolproof.  The odds of being infected are low, but if you are infected, then you could be treated for HIV and live a fairly normal and full life.  If you simply "rest easy" and don't get checked, then that HIV may morph into full blown AIDS, at which point it may be too late to treat you.  

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, OldSiamHand said:

It means this is great advice for you, poor advice for anyone with an ounce of reason.

 

In your world, if you found out you had protected sex with someone who was HIV positive, you would "rest easy" if you felt that you used the condom correctly.

 

A reasonable person would still get checked after a few months, because condoms are not foolproof.  The odds of being infected are low, but if you are infected, then you could be treated for HIV and live a fairly normal and full life.  If you simply "rest easy" and don't get checked, then that HIV may morph into full blown AIDS, at which point it may be too late to treat you.  

That’s what you meant by “go for it”?

 

HIV cannot penetrate a condom that is used correctly. 

 

I would never tell someone not to get checked, but if they used the condom correctly they are safe. 

[OldSiamHand]

1 minute ago, Bluespunk said:

That’s what you meant by “go for it”?

 

HIV cannot penetrate a condom that is used correctly. 

 

I would never tell someone not to get checked, but if they used the condom correctly they are safe. 

not according to the statistics in the link you posted.  condoms are not guaranteed to be effective in preventing HIV even if used correctly.  

[watcharacters]

2 minutes ago, OldSiamHand said:

not according to the statistics in the link you posted.  condoms are not guaranteed to be effective in preventing HIV even if used correctly.  

 

 

THere are few guarantees in life, period!

[theguyfromanotherforum]

33 minutes ago, Media1 said:

A dozen a day 

 

Doesn't make the creampie go away

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, OldSiamHand said:

not according to the statistics in the link you posted.  condoms are not guaranteed to be effective in preventing HIV even if used correctly.  

The link I posted specifically says

 

“How do condoms help prevent the sexual transmission of HIV?

 

Condoms help prevent transmission by reducing the risk of an exposure to HIV during sex.  

Laboratory studies show that the materials used to make most condoms (such as latex, nitrile, polyurethane and polyisoprene) do not let HIV pass through them. Condoms act as a barrier to HIV infection by preventing the vagina, penis, rectum and mouth from being exposed to bodily fluids (such as semen, vaginal fluid and rectal fluid) that can contain HIV.”

 

and also

 

 

How effective are condoms at preventing the sexual transmission of HIV?

 

“Condoms are a highly effective strategy to help prevent the sexual transmission of HIV when used consistently and correctly. Condoms have been well studied in laboratory tests and it has been determined that condoms are impermeable to HIV, meaning that HIV cannot pass through them.”

[BigT73]

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

In all honesty it's not reliable info,eg, the number of new cases might just reflect that more and more girls were being tested than previously.  There were all sorts of figures being bandied around that were alarmist to say the least.

that figure wasnt the statistics of pattaya, just what his 1 clinic had tested.

[OldSiamHand]

9 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

The link I posted specifically says . . . 

 

 

It also specifically says:

 

Condoms can fail to prevent an exposure to HIV if they break, slip or leak during sex. These types of mechanical condom failure are relatively rare, with studies estimating that external condoms fail between 0.4% and 6.5% of the time, and that internal condoms fail between 0.1% and 5.6% of the time.

 

In studies of condom breakage, slippage and leakage, it was not possible to know how many participants were actually using condoms correctly. However, research suggests that rates of condom failure decrease with more frequent condom use and more experiences of previous failure. This evidence all points to the conclusion that over time people learn to use condoms correctly and this reduces failure rates. However, failure is never reduced to zero, even for experienced condom users who use condoms consistently and correctly.

[scubascuba3]

 

 

 

I know a few men who know they are HIV positive - yet still have unprotected sex with multiple partners.  There may be 100 to 300 of those types of farang in Thailand, and a greater # of Thais.  

 

 

These guys aren't on treatment? If they were their viral load may be low enough not to be a risk.

And if they aren't on treatment how did it go when you tried to persuade them to get it?

 

[scubascuba3]

HIV and stats. Great.
 
If one gets to know the source they can get better stats.
For example, there is a group of girls that hang out on Beach Road that refer to themselves as "the family".
According to what I consider a very reliable scource, they are family because they all are HIV positive.

The only ones that i can think of that could be "the family" is the rough looking ones who stay opposite mike shopping mall?

[Bluespunk]

3 minutes ago, OldSiamHand said:

It also specifically says:

 

Condoms can fail to prevent an exposure to HIV if they break, slip or leak during sex. These types of mechanical condom failure are relatively rare, with studies estimating that external condoms fail between 0.4% and 6.5% of the time, and that internal condoms fail between 0.1% and 5.6% of the time.

 

In studies of condom breakage, slippage and leakage, it was not possible to know how many participants were actually using condoms correctly. However, research suggests that rates of condom failure decrease with more frequent condom use and more experiences of previous failure. This evidence all points to the conclusion that over time people learn to use condoms correctly and this reduces failure rates. However, failure is never reduced to zero, even for experienced condom users who use condoms consistently and correctly.

A condom used correctly prevents HIV infection. 

 

Anyone doing so is safe. 

Edited April 5, 2018 by Bluespunk

[scubascuba3]

For you, yes.  Bad advice for others, especially given that condoms have up to a 6% chance of the condom not being effective as mentioned in your link, a risk that still exists even if you use it correctly. 

I've never had a condom split, if it gets used properly its fine. It helps if you're with a girl who wants to be there

[scubascuba3]

not according to the statistics in the link you posted.  condoms are not guaranteed to be effective in preventing HIV even if used correctly.  

No one has ever caught HIV who used a condom correctly. Now if they are a fool that's different i.e. it splits because they don't take precautions, or they don't put on properly or buy the wrong size.

[Thaidream]

Condoms are not 100% reliable due to failure attributed to improper use-  nothing is ever 100% safe in life. However, if there is even a slight chance of getting HIV- one might want to get checked.  Having sex with prostitute or promiscuous people increase  the risk.

Anyone who knows they are HIV positive needs to make sure they are treated and use condoms always. If they do not and spread the virus they are culpable.

[HerbalEd]

On 4/4/2018 at 2:38 PM, sanemax said:

Although that was just when she got tested , she was probably HIV+ before then

 

On 4/4/2018 at 3:11 PM, HLover said:

Do they pass out moron or dunce pointed hats for those brilliant enough to "go down on a bar girl"?  

 

Sugar coat it, but the safe bet is she was taking shots where the sun doesn't shine and got the big HIV.

"Probably"?  Maybe she contacted HIV the day she got the positive test.

[Media1]

7 minutes ago, Thaidream said:

Condoms are not 100% reliable due to failure attributed to improper use-  nothing is ever 100% safe in life. However, if there is even a slight chance of getting HIV- one might want to get checked.  Having sex with prostitute or promiscuous people increase  the risk.

Anyone who knows they are HIV positive needs to make sure they are treated and use condoms always. If they do not and spread the virus they are culpable.

lf the person is on full latest medications and the viral load is close to undectable. it is near impossible to infect another even through direct contact. She did not seek help or medication knowingly kept banging with nothing to safe guard. I know a couple that had  baby who is HIV negative. it's not a death sentence. But the meds here are extortion and the government do not care.

Edited April 5, 2018 by Media1

[Media1]

35 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

1 hour ago, OldSiamHand said:

not according to the statistics in the link you posted.  condoms are not guaranteed to be effective in preventing HIV even if used correctly.  

No one has ever caught HIV who used a condom correctly. Now if they are a fool that's different i.e. it splits because they don't take precautions, or they don't put on properly or buy the wrong size.

True

[jenny2017]

43 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said:

1 hour ago, OldSiamHand said:

not according to the statistics in the link you posted.  condoms are not guaranteed to be effective in preventing HIV even if used correctly.  

No one has ever caught HIV who used a condom correctly. Now if they are a fool that's different i.e. it splits because they don't take precautions, or they don't put on properly or buy the wrong size.

There seem to be people who "go down" on prostitutes. Hrrg.. 

[dfdgfdfdgs]

Just now, sanemax said:

Its a bit harsh for her , probably got tested against her will and then having the results spread in the media .

She made her choices.  She probably had unprotected sex for the price of a few noodle soups and she got unlucky, such is life.  No sympathy from me.  Use a condom if you're too lazy to get a job in Family Mart.

[anon789561]

17 minutes ago, Media1 said:

lf the person is on full latest medications and the viral load is close to undectable. it is near impossible to infect another even through direct contact. She did not seek help or medication knowingly kept banging with nothing to safe guard. I know a couple that had  baby who is HIV negative. it's not a death sentence. But the meds here are extortion and the government do not care.

the meds here are extortion? i assume you mean extortionate. they are free for thais and also cheap for foreigners as far as i am aware

[bkk6060]

All of you condoms are 100% are spreading false and dangerous information.

Truly irresponsible plenty of articles out there about faulty condoms.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/south-africa-recalls-135-million-defective-condoms-after-giveaway/

 

 

[lamyai3]

28 minutes ago, HerbalEd said:

 

"Probably"?  Maybe she contacted HIV the day she got the positive test.

This would be impossible.