Trump says "big price to pay" for Syria chemical attack

[metisdead]

A post has been removed:

 

16) You will not make changes to quoted material from other members posts, except for purposes of shortening the quoted post. This cannot be done in such a manner that it alters the context of the original post.

[simple1]

1 hour ago, Khun Han said:

 

"the rebels did not actually "gain" anything from it - they've already surrendered."

 

 

The rebels have so much to gain from it, it's difficult to know where to start. But let's start with the fact that they can quickly un-surrender and be quickly be re-armed and moved back into conflict positions once the Syrian army and it's Russian backers are put on the back foot because of the false flag incident created by said rebels.

 

And it's become beyond suspicion about your sincerity in these discussions, considering the huge variety of highly implausible explanations/excuses you provide for your pov.

 

By the way, is there any independent confirmation of the rebels' supporters claims about this alleged incident? History won't look kindly on this debacle. But history might not get the opportunity to do so.

There were a number of factions in the area subjected to the gas attack. As an outcome, under pressure, all (?) agreed to relocate to Idlib Province. Relocation to Idlib would be a win for the Assad regime. Idlib Province has long been identified as a future killing ground for Assad and his allies due to the facilitated concentration of armed opponents to Assad.

 

With other chlorine gas attacks, designed to kill and injure civilians sheltering from aerial attacks, has it ever been proven they were carried out by Islamist forces?

Edited April 11, 2018 by simple1

[serialK]

trump is of questionable mental health and needs removing from office.

 

trade war with china

insults the mexicans

ww3 with russia about to start

 

what a moron.

 

 

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

"the rebels did not actually "gain" anything from it - they've already surrendered."

 

 

The rebels have so much to gain from it, it's difficult to know where to start. But let's start with the fact that they can quickly un-surrender and be quickly be re-armed and moved back into conflict positions once the Syrian army and it's Russian backers are put on the back foot because of the false flag incident created by said rebels.

 

And it's become beyond suspicion about your sincerity in these discussions, considering the huge variety of highly implausible explanations/excuses you provide for your pov.

 

By the way, is there any independent confirmation of the rebels' supporters claims about this alleged incident? History won't look kindly on this debacle. But history might not get the opportunity to do so.

How exactly could they quickly be rearmed?The territory they occupy is shrinking fast and the supply lines are tenuous at best.

[Morch]

6 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

"the rebels did not actually "gain" anything from it - they've already surrendered."

 

 

The rebels have so much to gain from it, it's difficult to know where to start. But let's start with the fact that they can quickly un-surrender and be quickly be re-armed and moved back into conflict positions once the Syrian army and it's Russian backers are put on the back foot because of the false flag incident created by said rebels.

 

And it's become beyond suspicion about your sincerity in these discussions, considering the huge variety of highly implausible explanations/excuses you provide for your pov.

 

By the way, is there any independent confirmation of the rebels' supporters claims about this alleged incident? History won't look kindly on this debacle. But history might not get the opportunity to do so.

 

It would be difficult "where to start", since you either don't have a clue or scrambling to deflect. Under the terms of the surrender agreement reached the rebels simply be relocated to the Idlib area, where they are free to resume their struggle against Assad's regime. So all the waffle about "quickly un-surrender", "quickly be re-armed" and "moved back into conflict positions" is pretty much what was negotiated anyway, regardless of the chemical attack. Not even the first instance of such agreements.

 

As for your personal comments - kinda odd, if expected. Apparently raising any possible (and there wasn't a "huge variety" of these) non-conspiracy explanations, or ones not giving the Assad regime a free pass is insincere.

 

With regard to pronouncements on how history will look on this or that - pffft. Same goes for the WWIII scaremongering.

 

[Morch]

4 hours ago, bristolboy said:

How exactly could they quickly be rearmed?The territory they occupy is shrinking fast and the supply lines are tenuous at best.

 

Surrendering rebels will be relocated to the Idlib area, which is mostly under rebel control. Mind, not necessarily the same group/faction. Once there, they can do whatever they like - so "re-armed" is a possibility, but one afforded by the negotiated terms anyway. Assad's main priority was clearing the rebels holds near Damascus, thus consolidating his rule in the areas he controls. As pointed out above, concentrating the remaining rebels in the Idlib area, may make it somewhat easier dealing with them when the time comes.

[Chomper Higgot]

This has the air of a wrestling match, we are lead to believe its a real fight but in truth its an elaborate (and camp) show put on by the 'contestants' who have already rehearsed their moves in advance. 

 

Trump goes from grovelling and dancing for Putin, then Putin gives Trump an excuse to strut around the ring, huffing and puffing.

 

Pure theatre, a distraction from the main event.

Edited April 12, 2018 by Chomper Higgot

[bristolboy]

55 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Surrendering rebels will be relocated to the Idlib area, which is mostly under rebel control. Mind, not necessarily the same group/faction. Once there, they can do whatever they like - so "re-armed" is a possibility, but one afforded by the negotiated terms anyway. Assad's main priority was clearing the rebels holds near Damascus, thus consolidating his rule in the areas he controls. As pointed out above, concentrating the remaining rebels in the Idlib area, may make it somewhat easier dealing with them when the time comes.

That's a good point. Idlib does border on Turkey, after all.