Road deaths, injuries up for first 2 days of Songkran

[wgdanson]

3 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

No RIP where the drunk drivers are concerned, I would say RIH. Rot in Hell.

Totally agree...but if it is MY car the drunk runs into, and my family they kill.

[Acemaker]

6 hours ago, ezzra said:

Reading the same news posts year after year for the last 30 years or so,

drunks, speeding, arrests, dead, injured by the dozens that will culminate

to several hundred (400-500) tragic loss of lives year after year, after year,

what can be done? in reality, nothing much, there are people who will 

continue to drive recklessly and utter disregards to road rules no

matter what you say or do to change this behavior....

Agreed, and while Bribery and corruption prevails nothing will ever change, the Third World it is , and the Third World it always will be.

[NoshowJones]

5 hours ago, Happy enough said:

60,000 done for drink driving. some vehicles confiscated, some licences confiscated, some to appear in court and some nothing it appears. it's a bloody shambles basically. how can they hope to improve things 

"some vehicles confiscated." Does being confiscated not mean that the vehicles are taken off them and not returned. I would bet that does not happen even once.

 

[Acemaker]

3 hours ago, jak2002003 said:

I passed one checkpoint yesterday afternoon and they were all sitting about around the table drinking bottles of whiskey... totally true!  

Wow incredible, pity you didnt Film it, you could have made yourself a few Quid.  

[essox essox]

6 hours ago, colinneil said:

This cannot be correct, before the holiday government lackies were spouting off about 7% reduction this year.

They said that there were measures in place to make songkran safer.

 

you believe this??

I saw a pig flying this morning !!

[Skeptic7]

1 hour ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

The annual cull.

Right...but in this country the annual cull lasts the entire "annum"! 

[essox essox]

6 minutes ago, Acemaker said:

Agreed, and while Bribery and corruption prevails nothing will ever change, the Third World it is , and the Third World it always will be.

this place is NOT third world it is more like a fifth world country...they can not even find Yingluk.....even when see was seen in tokyo

[The Teacher]

7 hours ago, khwaibah said:

Way to go Thailand. I knew you could do it. Keep up the excellent work  for being the Number 1 country for highway deaths in the world. NOT.

The one thing their good at 

[The Teacher]

19 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"some vehicles confiscated." Does being confiscated not mean that the vehicles are taken off them and not returned. I would bet that does not happen even once.

 

Probably not, just turn up with certain currency in a paper bag say sorry, pay your 100 Baht fine and start all over again. Monkey brains really 

[soistalker]

60,000 drunk drivers?!

Absurd. I'd rather ride that road in the Road Warrior.

[Artisi]

17 minutes ago, essox essox said:

this place is NOT third world it is more like a fifth world country...they can not even find Yingluk.....even when see was seen in tokyo

Oh! "They" can find her, but for what end? 

[NoshowJones]

26 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

"some vehicles confiscated." Does being confiscated not mean that the vehicles are taken off them and not returned. I would bet that does not happen even once.

 

So you are confused? according to your saddo you are, then let me spell it out.

Drunken drivers and motorbike riders should automatically have their vehicles confiscated, and

not returned back to their owners.

[lucjoker]

what about the hundreds more that die 1 day later in hospital /at home ?

They are never in the statistics, only the death on the moment of the crash .

So numbers say nothing.

 

If they stop a car ,and the driver is NOT drunk , they must give him 500 bht ..........it could 

be a costly insentif.....probably 10 000 bht in 10 days?

[Jonmarleesco]

If it weren't so tragic, it would be laughable. 

 

Every year, the same repetitive guff rolled out by the authorities; every year, the same predictable outcome, the same predictably crass stupidity of so many morons on the roads, the same demonstrable ineptness of those, so-say, in charge.

 

Still, they can take comfort in the knowledge that at least one Thai-held world first will remain intact for the foreseeable future.

[55Jay]

7 hours ago, edwinchester said:

60,000 drinks arrested in just two days is an absolutely staggering number and shows that drivers just don't give a <deleted> about other road users.

Whoever is is charge should hang their head in shame and resign because it's obvious they have no idea how to deal with the problem.

I think one factor (of many) is there hasn't been a decades long public campaign led by angry Mothers, which over time, has achieved the goal of making drink driving morally reprehensible social stigma, not "just" against the law.  Hell these days, you would almost rather deflower the virgin mary herself than be tarred and feathered as a despicable drunk driver.   

 

Apart from that, there are far more people than police obviously and while I'm no fan of Thai Police, in their defense, they can only do so much; same as my own home country government.  Blab about it endlessly and set up highway "safety check points" and patrols to find and remove as many drunk drivers as they can.   

[Media1]

Ankle monitoring braclets. Need.to.be ordered by the container load from China.

[Jonmarleesco]

And now, another day, and they've managed to all but double it. 

[Jonmarleesco]

1 minute ago, Media1 said:

Ankle monitoring braclets. Need.to.be ordered by the container load from China.

For the drivers? Or the BiB? 

[Media1]

8 minutes ago, Jonmarleesco said:

For the drivers? Or the BiB? 

both they can monitor each other

[Khun Eddie Edward]

Draconian measures required to prevent this.  Zero tolerance whether during Songkran or not.  Compulsory (meaningful) custodian sentences for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, whether or not you cause an accident - plus automatic 10 year driving ban.  Life ban if you cause a death or disabling injury to someone.  Loss of vehicle - to be sold (even if just for scrap) to help the victims. Public shaming.  The first year this is implemented won't make much difference as folks will not bother, but after the initial 250,000 or so offenders are punished this way, it will deter others.

 

Don't drink and drive, it ruins lives - particularly yours. 

[Media1]

4 minutes ago, Media1 said:

both they can monitor each other

A close nit relationship 

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[Skeptic7]

1 hour ago, Jonmarleesco said:

If it weren't so tragic, it would be laughable. 

 

Every year, the same repetitive guff rolled out by the authorities; every year, the same predictable outcome, the same predictably crass stupidity of so many morons on the roads, the same demonstrable ineptness of those, so-say, in charge.

 

Still, they can take comfort in the knowledge that at least one Thai-held world first will remain intact for the foreseeable future.

Typical Thailand all around. Apathy...Both with those at fault and with those in charge. Sooo Thai...failing to act responsibly, lacking personal responsibility, failure to make and enforce responsible laws and lack of responsible leadership. 

 

But hey, new slogan at least...

 

TYPICALLY THAILAND! 

[starky]

2 hours ago, possum1931 said:

No RIP where the drunk drivers are concerned, I would say RIH. Rot in Hell.

Righto tough guy, but what about the people they killed or their passengers? I don't believe I was praising anyone for drink driving, fycks sake another warrior. 

[Artisi]

20 minutes ago, Skeptic7 said:

Typical Thailand all around. Apathy...Both with those at fault and with those in charge. Sooo Thai...failing to act responsibly, lacking personal responsibility, failure to make and enforce responsible laws and lack of responsible leadership. 

 

But hey, new slogan at least...

 

TYPICALLY THAILAND! 

Maybe the "This Is Thailand" (TIT) would more apt in describing "Typically In Thailand" - but guess same outcome.

[Artisi]

1 hour ago, Jonmarleesco said:

For the drivers? Or the BiB? 

Both

[starky]

1 hour ago, Khun Eddie Edward said:

Draconian measures required to prevent this.  Zero tolerance whether during Songkran or not.  Compulsory (meaningful) custodian sentences for driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs, whether or not you cause an accident - plus automatic 10 year driving ban.  Life ban if you cause a death or disabling injury to someone.  Loss of vehicle - to be sold (even if just for scrap) to help the victims. Public shaming.  The first year this is implemented won't make much difference as folks will not bother, but after the initial 250,000 or so offenders are punished this way, it will deter others.

 

Don't drink and drive, it ruins lives - particularly yours. 

Yeah before we get all totalitarian how about we start with, 

Proper licensing procedures 

A proper road safety campaign

A pro active police force with a highway patrol that is willing and will enforce road safety rules

Fines and penalties on par with the rest of the civilised world ( as in you don't bang someone up for a low range DUI), the prison system is already overcrowded. 

Custodial sentence and 10 year  driving ban for everyone driving under the influence? At any level? Bit OTT, IMO 

[hotchilli]

Sirichan said that 32,592 of those cases involved motorcyclists. Officers have seized 835 motorcycles and total confiscated 356 motorcycle driving licences.

The remaining 23,459 cases involved private cars or public vehicles, leading to 494 seized cars and 1,741 confiscated driver’s licences.

 

And there lays the problem... no deterrent, all drunk drivers should have licences revoked for one year minimum!!!

They think it's worth the risk!!

Time to change Thai mind-sets!!!

[Artisi]

3 minutes ago, starky said:

Yeah before we get all totalitarian how about we start with, 

Proper licensing procedures 

A proper road safety campaign

A pro active police force with a highway patrol that is willing and will enforce road safety rules

Fines and penalties on par with the rest of the civilised world ( as in you don't bang someone up for a low range DUI), the prison system is already overcrowded. 

Custodial sentence and 10 year  driving ban for everyone driving under the influence? At any level? Bit OTT, IMO 

think you will find many already drive without a licence, so introducing bans isn't a deterrent and negates your point 1, 2, and 5. Point 3  would need an absolute miracle to even get the BIB to think about it and as 4, who will fine them and who will collect the fines and if they can't be found (fairly normal) what then?  

[55Jay]

Right, the OTT draconian "crack downs" always fizzle out in a few days to a few weeks.  The punishments also tend to be totally out of whack and that fosters the back hander system.

 

But you see how the continued pressure about drink driving in recent years has been driving up the asking price for drink driving back hander, for farangs in particular. 

 

What's the going rate in Pattaya now?  30,000?