wgdanson Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Took my 2012 Vigo for 150,000 km service to Toyota in Phitsanulok, as every time on schedule. Asked, as always, for tyres to be rotated as shown in the handbook, and actually put little numbered stickers on each wheel. After 10 minutes the guy who spoke nit-noy English came to me and said 'Cannot change wheels' and took me to see the date stamp on the tyres, which are 16 months old, 50,000 kms on them. He said the tyres had expired as the date was 2015, to which I muttered 'bo..ocks' or words to that effect. Googled tyre markings and showed him that the date is the manufacturing date and that they should be OK for 4,5 years after that. he just shrugged and said OK. When the vehicle came back, I checked the wheels, had they done it correctly.....once again bo..ocks. Sent it back to swap front wheels over L- R. I asked why they do not do it on ALL vehicles as it says in handbook......NEVER DO was the reply. Oh yes, they charge Bht 330 to swap them over, even though they take the wheels off to clean the brake dust away. Rant over. My truck is running like a dream with new timing belts etc. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StreetCowboy Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) The bloke in my local bike shop put the new brake cable on before the gear cable one time. It took me a lot of fannying about adjusting the gear shift, some pliers, a bit of damage to the gear cable and quite frankly, some language not suitable for mixed company before I figured out what the problem was. But back on topic, I've now got Schwalbe Marathons front and back, and I've not had a puncture in over 4,000 km. I had to tell the bloke in the shop to make sure the labels lined up with the valve holes, though. EDIT: At least he didn't put the tyres on backwards Edited April 21, 2018 by StreetCowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Reminds me of why I use my local 'Cockpit' franchise we are fortunate to have excellent one with servicing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saraphee Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Reminds me of why I use my local 'Cockpit' franchise we are fortunate to have excellent one with servicing. +1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: ...took me to see the date stamp on the tyres, which are 16 months old, 50,000 kms on them. He said the tyres had expired as the date was 2015... You may have bought the tyres 16 months ago but they are three years old this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Moving to the Motoring forum for knowledgeable answers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kwasaki Posted April 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, Just Weird said: You may have bought the tyres 16 months ago but they are three years old this year. Most tyres have 10 year life span from made date e.g. Michelin. That said conditions determine the change time which on inspection of a tyre it's usually easy to make that decision. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Most tyres have 10 year life span from made date e.g. Michelin. That said conditions determine the change time which on inspection of a tyre it's usually easy to make that decision. Doesn't make his tyres any younger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Most tyres have 10 year life span from made date e.g. Michelin. That said conditions determine the change time which on inspection of a tyre it's usually easy to make that decision. I suspect the Toyota man was trying to say, three years since made, need new ones, and we happen to have a promotion at the moment. Of course, tyres on Thais cars wear out much quicker because the over-inflate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 27 minutes ago, Just Weird said: You may have bought the tyres 16 months ago but they are three years old this year. Meaning? Do un-used tyres degrade so much on the shelf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximillian Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Schwalbe Marathons are great bike tyres, lasting forever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Kwasaki said: Most tyres have 10 year life span from made date e.g. Michelin. That said conditions determine the change time which on inspection of a tyre it's usually easy to make that decision. Had a puncture on one of my tyres on my little Suzuki Swift, so took the car in to get that fixed and also to rotate the tires as they had done 22,000 km at the time. I had no idea about the date stamp (jeez, in my younger days a car tyre wasn't changed until the tread was damn near bald and that could have been 10 years or thereabouts!), until the guy showed me that they were manufactured in 2012 and due for a change (five years), however looking at the condition of them, I really couldn't agree with it. Having said that, the puncture was the second one I'd had in that particular tyre and although they had fixed it with a plug before, I wasn't keen on having the same tyre "plugged" twice, so I bought a pair of new Goodyear tyres to go on the front, whilst they took the front tyres and put them on the back, so a bit of a compromise with which I was happy. Edited April 21, 2018 by xylophone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, xylophone said: Had a puncture on one of my tyres on my little Suzuki Swift, so took the car in to get that fixed and also to rotate the tires as they had done 22,000 km at the time. I had no idea about the date stamp (jeez, in my younger days a car tyre wasn't changed until the tread was damn near bald and that could have been 10 years or thereabouts!), until the guy showed me that they were manufactured in 2012 and due for a change (five years), however looking at the condition of them, I really couldn't agree with it. Having said that, the puncture was the second one I'd had in that particular tyre and although they had fixed it with a plug before, I wasn't keen on having the same tyre "plugged" twice, so I bought a pair of new Goodyear tyres to go on the front, whilst they took the front tyres and put them on the back, so a bit of a compromise with which I was happy. So what happens when they need rotating at the next service, 1-2-3-4 (LF- RF- RR _LR) becomes 4-3-1-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 11 minutes ago, wgdanson said: Meaning? Do un-used tyres degrade so much on the shelf? Michelin say 3 years on the shelf is OK, no guarantee ploblem for 9 years including the 3 year shelf relaxing... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Weird Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 35 minutes ago, wgdanson said: Meaning? Do un-used tyres degrade so much on the shelf? Meaning that the tyres are three years old this year, not 16 months old as you claimed... 2 hours ago, wgdanson said: ...the tyres, which are 16 months old... And, yes, unused tyres do degrade over time, that is why they all have a manufacturing date on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, wgdanson said: So what happens when they need rotating at the next service, 1-2-3-4 (LF- RF- RR _LR) becomes 4-3-1-2. 20kms (5yrs) from now I'll have a look at the best option!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, transam said: Michelin say 3 years on the shelf is OK, no guarantee ploblem for 9 years including the 3 year shelf relaxing... Good to know, Lazada have Michelin latitudes at 3K a tyre, 235/55/17s. Fired off a q to the outfit selling them on date made, still waiting. As for tyre rotation, if you have a trolley jack or even use the vehicle one you could do it yourself. Good exercise and keep you out of the bar for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, phutoie2 said: Good to know, Lazada have Michelin latitudes at 3K a tyre, 235/55/17s. Fired off a q to the outfit selling them on date made, still waiting. As for tyre rotation, if you have a trolley jack or even use the vehicle one you could do it yourself. Good exercise and keep you out of the bar for a bit. Would you not need TWO jacks.......................not if you are using the spare. But Toyota will not include the spare as it is on a steel rim and will not match the alloys. Cannot do it with a trolley jack as you need to lift a front and a back wheel at the same time. Edited April 21, 2018 by wgdanson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phutoie2 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 minute ago, wgdanson said: Would you not need TWO jacks. Or axle stands, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 Just now, phutoie2 said: Or axle stands, lol Or go to Cockpit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredob43 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: Would you not need TWO jacks.......................not if you are using the spare. But Toyota will not include the spare as it is on a steel rim and will not match the alloys. Cannot do it with a trolley jack as you need to lift a front and a back wheel at the same time. Depends on what model Toyo you have. My Tuna has the same rim/tyre for spare as the rest of the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, fredob43 said: Depends on what model Toyo you have. My Tuna has the same rim/tyre for spare as the rest of the wheels. Yeah we know Fred your HiSo so your comments are invalid for us truck guys. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredob43 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Yeah we know Fred your HiSo so your comments are invalid for us truck guys. What you seem to have forgotten is that not all peeps in Thailand have to drive a farm truck, with a get you home tin wheel. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 12 hours ago, fredob43 said: What you seem to have forgotten is that not all peeps in Thailand have to drive a farm truck, with a get you home tin wheel. And with the arrival of fredo's "lump", the thread lurches off-topic... again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tifino Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, NanLaew said: And with the arrival of fredo's "lump", the thread lurches off-topic... again. ummm... off-road? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transam Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 12 hours ago, fredob43 said: What you seem to have forgotten is that not all peeps in Thailand have to drive a farm truck, with a get you home tin wheel. I am very happy to have a tin wheel spare because no one will nick it. There is a naughty boy business out there that nick the alloy spares to sell a set. Our daughter had her spare nicked off her Fortuner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted April 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 22, 2018 21 hours ago, wgdanson said: So what happens when they need rotating at the next service, 1-2-3-4 (LF- RF- RR _LR) becomes 4-3-1-2. Keep in mind that tires do not NEED rotation. It's simply a recommendation and swapping left/right on the same axle is the easiest option of all. Cross-swapping between front and back axles is for enthusiasts only and getting the spare wheel involved in 'musical wheels' is for the purists. Correction... ignoring any tire rotation option is easiest. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 3 minutes ago, transam said: Our daughter had her spare nicked off her Fortuner... Another mostly unspoken downside of owning Thailand's best-selling SUV? Bought a set of 4, virtually new, dealership-to-tire shop Ranger PX2 rims for my 3 year-old Ranger PX for 2000 baht last month. For an extra 10,000 baht, I got the almost-new rubber bits that fit around them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Correction... ignoring any tire rotation option is easiest. Reminds me, Toyota main dealer rotating our Yaris wheels which had upgraded rims & one-way directional tyres. Edited April 22, 2018 by Kwasaki 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 23 hours ago, Just Weird said: You may have bought the tyres 16 months ago but they are three years old this year. So they shouldn't need changing then, unless they've been hammered.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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