scubascuba3 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yeah or worse, take it out on her. Which is why I rather this go viral so there's political pressure to actually help her. But judging from what everyone saying here I'm starting to think it's not a good idea.To go viral don't you need a video? Post photos on here anyway. She should have gone to the police again if the first lot were rubbish. Domestic violence in many countries is brushed under the carpet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Well that's the risk you take isn't it? hate scumbags like that. With hindsight it would have been worth it. So what happened next? She left with who? You could of taken her back to yours. You need to post at least some photos at least otherwise it sounds potentially made up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 1 hour ago, tumama said: To go viral don't you need a video? Post photos on here anyway. She should have gone to the police again if the first lot were rubbish. Domestic violence in many countries is brushed under the carpet Yeah I could have taken a video of the beating. But instead I chose to intervene. 3 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 46 minutes ago, tumama said: Well that's the risk you take isn't it? hate scumbags like that. With hindsight it would have been worth it. So what happened next? She left with who? You could of taken her back to yours Yeah maybe I should have done that. The police asked me to leave so I did. I left her with the police and her attacker. Feel bad about that now. But at least I did something. Edited April 23, 2018 by tumama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VBF Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, tumama said: Yeah I could have taken a video of the beating. But instead I chose to intervene. Yeah maybe I should have done that. The police asked me to leave so I did. I left her with the police and her attacker. Feel bad about that now. But at least I did something. And you did as much as you could be reasonably expected to have done. More than I would have done for sure - WELL DONE! Your intentions are honourable and i consider you a brave man BUT....in Thailand it's often better to avoid any sort of confrontation especially when the others involved are all Thai... for your own future preservation! Go Well @tumama .... Edited April 23, 2018 by VBF 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, tumama said: I actually had a bottle in my hand when the whole thing started. But I put it down before running over there. With hindsight I should have just smacked that shit over his head from behind, gave him a few punches and walked away. Christ on a bike! If you had smacked that shit over his head from behind, I pretty much guarantee that a few of those 20 bystanders would have lamped onto you pretty quick and you wouldn't be fantasizing about posting anything viral right now as you would be banged up already. Ever think that the lazada bike isn't even his? Defamation isn't something that you want to get charged with be it via the computer crimes act or anything else. Put away the bloody shining armor. You've committed what equates to a lifetime of foolishness already. Sheesh... 5 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Ever think that the lazada bike isn't even his? Defamation isn't something that you want to get charged with be it via the computer crimes act or anything else. That's my point. He uses Lazada property to kidnap and assault a woman. One guy just asked me to post the pics here. If I were to do that, could that be viewed as defamation? Quote If you had smacked that shit over his head from behind, I pretty much guarantee that a few of those 20 bystanders would have lamped onto you pretty quick and you wouldn't be fantasizing about posting anything viral right now as you would be banged up already. Not fantasizing about anything. Just want to help this girl. But with hindsight it would probably have been better just beating the shit out of the guy. Put away the bloody shining armor. You've committed what equates to a lifetime of foolishness already. Nah, I've done shit like this many times before. Edited April 23, 2018 by tumama 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NanLaew Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, tumama said: That's my point. He uses Lazada property to kidnap and assault a woman. One guy just asked me to post the pics here. If I were to do that, could that be viewed as defamation? Are you only being spectacularly dim tonight or is it something that you work on? If it is NOT a lazada bike, they won't care that he may have borrowed it but they will be all over you like a dose of the crabs with the inference that lazada hires woman-beating yobs. Luckily, the mods will stop the nonsense if you try and post anything here. 3 words... Get over it. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NanLaew said: Are you only being spectacularly dim tonight or is it something that you work on? If it is NOT a lazada bike, they won't care that he may have borrowed it but they will be all over you like a dose of the crabs with the inference that lazada hires woman-beating yobs. Luckily, the mods will stop the nonsense if you try and post anything here. 3 words... Get over it. Well personally if I worked for Lazada I wouldn't want the company name associated with beating up women. So yeah, I do think they care. And what's your f-ucking problem? Are you a wife beater apologist or what? EDIT: Yeah he didn't borrow it because he was wearing a Lazada t-shirt with a Lazada badge around his neck. Edited April 23, 2018 by tumama 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonseeker Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Well done. Takes courage, which few have these days in Pattaya. Typical TH situation and police hardly intervenes ever. I remember the exact same situation on Second Rd. many years back. Nobody moved to help the girl being kicked on the ground outside her massage place. I stepped in and grabbed the slimy little bastard. Opppsssss...Not a second later I got grabbed and pushed aside with firm grip and 4 huge black dressed Swat guys in a blacked out van, that were stuck in traffic right next to us, gave the bastard a bit of his own medicine, before they cuffed him and threw him in the van. Quite a show. But appalling how hardly anybody helps in most emergency cases. So much better in the Western world. MS> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NanLaew Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, tumama said: Well personally if I worked for Lazada I wouldn't want the company name associated with beating up women. So yeah, I do think they care. And what's your f-ucking problem? Are you a wife beater apologist or what? But you don't. You are the one with the problem. Not everyone with a bloody smartphone with a 15 megapixel camera, an internet connection and a FB account wants to be a bloody iWarrior... just you. Look, even the cops told you to bugger off. So, why don't you just? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, NanLaew said: But you don't. You are the one with the problem. Not everyone with a bloody smartphone with a 15 megapixel camera, an internet connection and a FB account wants to be a bloody iWarrior... just you. Look, even the cops told you to bugger off. So, why don't you just? Because she feared for her life, that's why. They pretty much just asked the girl where she was from before they asked me to f off. Yeah I do speak some Thai. The Thai girl that called the police, said something like "well they were together". Like that somehow justifies kidnapping and assault 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yeah maybe I should have done that. The police asked me to leave so I did. I left her with the police and her attacker. Feel bad about that now. But at least I did something. Most responses will advise you to not get involved and help. Also to not help in medical emergencies, sadly its the kind of people here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Nah, I've done shit like this many times before. Can you post some photos from the scene? Otherwise people will think you are Sharky or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammieuk1 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 The OP has the choice post or not to post his pics up to him He has save the girl from a more serious assault at that moment in time great credit to him for what is a risky intervention anywhere even more so here. On balance I would call it quits if it were me but good luck with your decision. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I stopped one once in the street back in Australia to help a girl. An old guy nearby who had worked in the emergency services his whole life spoke to me. He said don't bother intervening in relationship disputes. He was always getting called out to them and you soon learn on the job there is no point taking a beating because the girl always goes back to them the next day. Of course, if you are seeing a girl take a beating it is hard not to naturally help her. When I first arrived in Thailand I helped a girl. She was screaming, crying, thinking she was going to die etc. Got her and put her in the car, where the Mrs was. The Mrs told her, we will go to the police. She said no. Mrs said, my uncle is boss of the police, so I can make sure they will definitely help you. She outright refused to go to the police and instead (after 10 or so minutes) asked to be dropped off at a restaurant within walking distance of where the abuse took place in the first place. I still would intervene, but don't bother taking it any further after she is safe. Well done for intervening, but it is just being a unnecessary hero to continue with it. There is systems (official and not official) in place to deal with these things, if she doesn't take them up then not much you can do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 hours ago, DipStick said: So both of them were arguing in English ? Speak very little Thai, but all understood him in English? And of course did he understand all that was spoken by them. Makes sense. Aeeh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Katia Posted April 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, kenk24 said: and you don't really know what the lady might have done to prompt the action... We couldn't get through a thread about domestic violence without one of those "well she must have deserved it" comments... 3 hours ago, tumama said: I doubt he can figure out where I live by my Facebook account. But consider this: your Facebook account also lists who all of your friends and family are. That's why I'm careful with my Facebook account... while it may not matter to me, I don't want to expose people I care about (some of whom may have their accounts more open than I do). Edited April 23, 2018 by Katia 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 31 minutes ago, scubascuba3 said: 1 hour ago, tumama said: Nah, I've done shit like this many times before. Can you post some photos from the scene? Otherwise people will think you are Sharky or something Yeah I can. But i'm worried about the legalities. TIT after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: Speak very little Thai, but all understood him in English? And of course did he understand all that was spoken by them. Makes sense. Aeeh Yeah well he did say that in English. If he had said it in Thai I would have understood it as well. I understand more than I speak. And to be perfectly honest, I was also in a state of heighten awareness and I was focusing more on how to defend myself rather than what to say. Something that was greatly diminished due to the fact the girl was holding on to me really tight and refused to let go. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InMyShadow Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 yawnnn she is back with him already 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 23 minutes ago, wildewillie89 said: I stopped one once in the street back in Australia to help a girl. An old guy nearby who had worked in the emergency services his whole life spoke to me. He said don't bother intervening in relationship disputes. He was always getting called out to them and you soon learn on the job there is no point taking a beating because the girl always goes back to them the next day. Of course, if you are seeing a girl take a beating it is hard not to naturally help her. When I first arrived in Thailand I helped a girl. She was screaming, crying, thinking she was going to die etc. Got her and put her in the car, where the Mrs was. The Mrs told her, we will go to the police. She said no. Mrs said, my uncle is boss of the police, so I can make sure they will definitely help you. She outright refused to go to the police and instead (after 10 or so minutes) asked to be dropped off at a restaurant within walking distance of where the abuse took place in the first place. I still would intervene, but don't bother taking it any further after she is safe. Well done for intervening, but it is just being a unnecessary hero to continue with it. There is systems (official and not official) in place to deal with these things, if she doesn't take them up then not much you can do. Well from the time I intervened to the time I left her, she told me she wanted to press charges. The girl was scared to death. Never seen anything like it before except in horror movies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 minute ago, tumama said: Well from the time I intervened to the time I left her, she told me she wanted to press charges. The girl was scared to death. Never seen anything like it before except in horror movies. You seem to like horror movies. Well done, you are a hero and photos should be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildewillie89 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Just now, tumama said: Well from the time I intervened to the time I left her, she told me she wanted to press charges. The girl was scared to death. Never seen anything like it before except in horror movies. So let the officials handle it now. He will probably have to pay her and them more than he can afford. And they will tell him to stay away. Many on here call that corruption, but it is something, generally, all 3 parties are happy with and agree on to avoid court processes. Not much point getting more involved than you have to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Ok <deleted> it. If I get arrested for posting these photos so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, jenny2017 said: You seem to like horror movies. Well done, you are a hero and photos should be posted. No, not a big fan of horror movies. Just never seen anyone this scared before. You can see how he grabs her arm in the photo. He was doing that throughout, even when she was clinging on to me. Like she was some kind of possession of his. Edited April 23, 2018 by tumama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 Maybe he was taking her shoe shopping ! Poor girl is barefoot 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenny2017 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Maybe he was taking her shoe shopping ! Poor girl is barefoot That's it! Lazada have Flip Flops on Sale! Do they tie the knot on the photo? Edited April 23, 2018 by jenny2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumama Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, cornishcarlos said: Maybe he was taking her shoe shopping ! Poor girl is barefoot Yeah because I always take my gf for shopping just before I abduct her and punch her in her face. Dude what the F is wrong you you? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornishcarlos Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 7 hours ago, tumama said: Yeah because I always take my gf for shopping just before I abduct her and punch her in her face. Dude what the F is wrong you you? You punch your gf ? Something wrong with you, not me ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hooplehead Posted April 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2018 Never get involved in a domestic dispute in Asia. Buried an American friend in Vietnam for almost exactly what you did. Friend was swarmed by a crowd and bottled then stabbed in the face with the broken bottles til he bled out. Turns out he interrupted a brother smacking his sister around for stealing the family's life savings to buy drugs. Don't assume you know what you are intervening in when you can't speak the freaking language. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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