Frenchman stabbed to death by Thai at Bangkok guest house after intervening in argument

[over2you]

11 minutes ago, Emster23 said:

Considering the quality of water in many canals, pissing in it isn't going to fundamentally change anything. I used to live in Phra Kanong and one canal there smelled as if it was all piss and nothing else.

Ha ha ha. Similar to a stroll down Soi 9 Sukhmvit 

[riverhigh]

12 minutes ago, jenny2017 said:

The other French man had tried to stop the Thai from urinating where he shouldn't.

 

   Why would anybody do that? What would happen to a Thai who tells an Englishman in London not to pee, no matter where that happens?

 

    RIP Frenchman, you died for nothing. 

I couldn't have said it better myself. RIP Frenchman, you died for nothing!

[mrmicbkktxl]

4 hours ago, JaVaCa said:

How alcohol can change people. Rest in peace Frenchman!

Thais no need alcohol,wrong word or wrong look and you have a problem

[spermwhale]

This was not something to intervene about. A local guy peeing in a drain? If you're a tourist in their country and he's not hurting anyone, who cares? Just walk away, laugh to yourself and shake your head. 

 

[stevenl]

20 minutes ago, Ramdas said:

The worst part is that Thai people get away with everything in the book of justice and naturally the police being biased allow another useless being get away with a murder.. Dangerous place this is.. I’m so scared how vulnerable we are here ?

Where did you read he gets away with this?

[Jim walker]

another 500 Baht fine its ok because it was a foreigner he murdered and we all know how nasty these foreigner's are trouble all the time so much to learn from  the nice polite kind Thai people

  

[ekkamai]

2 minutes ago, Ramdas said:

The worst part is that Thai people get away with everything in the book of justice and naturally the police being biased allow another useless being get away with a murder.. Dangerous place this is.. I’m so scared how vulnerable we are here ?

I think there is an undelying problem here, which is much more worrying. Negative attitude towards foreigners - be it expats or just tourists. We are - increasingly - the dirt they walk on, and agression is lurking lust below the surface. This is of course deeply unfair towards many Thais, and I have many dear Thai friends here, but overall the trend is definetely there. Personally I have had enough. I planned spend the rest of my life here, but that is no longer the plan. Other countries actually welcome retired expats. Give us decent visas and go out of their way to make it happen. I'll keep visiting Thailand, but I'll be damned, if I want to live my life where I am so obviously unwanted and all they want is my money. Visiting other countries in the region I have come to realize, that that famous Thai smile has emigrated too...!

 

[Easy Come Easy Go]

5 hours ago, Dmaxdan said:

Stabbing some to death over intervening with an argument about peeing in a drain?  What is the world coming too!

This is just way too tragic. R.I.P

People have died for less throughout history. Nothing new here, human nature in display as it always has been and always will be. 

[crazykopite]

Never ever get into a confrontation with a Thai person .RIP to the deceased

[riverhigh]

33 minutes ago, Ramdas said:

The worst part is that Thai people get away with everything in the book of justice and naturally the police being biased allow another useless being get away with a murder.. Dangerous place this is.. I’m so scared how vulnerable we are here ?

Relax. I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not stupid enough to get on your high horse and start mouthing off at a drunken person taking a piss in a sewer drain. Any country can be dangerous for stupid arrogant people who look for trouble.

Edited May 3, 2018 by riverhigh

[fake farang]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

Es arrived and saw Pae urinating in a drain and told him not to do that.

 

An argument broke out and Leo intervened to stop it.

 

Pae then went and got a knife and returned to stab the French man to death.

maybe he got the wrong guy

[SpeakeasyThai]

Sober or whether they are a drunk soi rat you can't tell a Thai. They are the masters of finger pointing, yet have a an elementary maturity level that cannot tolerate being put right.

 

Another winning moment for TAT and Thai-ness.

 

 

[freebyrd]

3 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Rule#2 is if someone wants to piss in a canal at 2am... let them.

Likewise at 2pm I would offer.

[sirocco]

observer90210 post 29, good morning,

He is in the genes of native French, of origin, to defend his neighbor, without thinking about the consequences.
Whether a man or a woman who wants to defend a person in great danger.
It's in our education. It is not a question of condescendence, or moral lessons, it is our instinct that dictates it.
Like the Lieutenant-Colonel who, during a kidnapping by a dirty Arab, who had murdered 2 French, took the place of the cashier so that she could live. He was also murdered.

You should be a little more observant and thoughtful.

[jenny2017]

15 minutes ago, Jim walker said:

another 500 Baht fine its ok because it was a foreigner he murdered and we all know how nasty these foreigner's are trouble all the time so much to learn from  the nice polite kind Thai people

  

Nonsense, there won't be just a 500 baht fine. Foreigners should mind their own business. What would you think/do if I'd tell you not to pee outside of a guesthouse? 

[SpeakeasyThai]

9 minutes ago, crazykopite said:

Never ever get into a confrontation with a Thai person .RIP to the deceased

Agreed, but sometimes its like walking on egg shells with these people as they are easily offended.

[reargunnerph3]

3 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

Rule #1 - DON'T GET INVOLVED.

Rule #1 Don't get involved

Rule #2 up to Rule #10 - See rule #1

Thai man beating Thai woman, Thai man yelling at a Thai woman, abusive drunk Thai men are all to be avoided at all costs regardless of how much you want to help or intervene. The life you save may well be your own.

[NextStationBangkok]

Banglumpoo is one of the safest place for foreigners. Sad for him, just lost his life for nothing.

 

RIP.

[falangjim]

That's the saddest thing I've read all day.  Kill the Thai drunk. He sounds like a worthless pos. 

 

[Straight8]

Poor guy, RIP

 

Probably should have know better than to get involved with a local, especially when we are all just visitors.

 

 

[TSF]

4 hours ago, Just1Voice said:

Rule #1 - DON'T GET INVOLVED.

+1 to that. I gave up on them long ago, don't care what they are doing, it's got SFA to do with me.

 

It's their country and I'm just a guest....blah blah blah...so be it. 

[Scouse123]

30 minutes ago, ekkamai said:

I think there is an undelying problem here, which is much more worrying. Negative attitude towards foreigners - be it expats or just tourists. We are - increasingly - the dirt they walk on, and agression is lurking lust below the surface. This is of course deeply unfair towards many Thais, and I have many dear Thai friends here, but overall the trend is definetely there. Personally I have had enough. I planned spend the rest of my life here, but that is no longer the plan. Other countries actually welcome retired expats. Give us decent visas and go out of their way to make it happen. I'll keep visiting Thailand, but I'll be damned, if I want to live my life where I am so obviously unwanted and all they want is my money. Visiting other countries in the region I have come to realize, that that famous Thai smile has emigrated too...!

 

 

I think you just might be right! I have been thinking the same.

 

Familiarity breeds contempt!

[SpeakeasyThai]

8 minutes ago, Straight8 said:

Poor guy, RIP

 

Probably should have know better than to get involved with a local, especially when we are all just visitors.

 

 

'We are all just visitors'... eeer No. Some of us live here permanent.

[cardinalblue]

You are wrong dead wrong...he is pointing out the situation where trivial events lead to loss of life esp of foreigners...

 

thailand has one of the highest rates of injury/death in the world of tourists....

 

this is not just another stabbing....majority of stabbings know each other or economic incentive like robbery  or gang related....

 

this is random incident in a mainstream venue that seem to happen all the time....

 

for a country that is the 5th highest consumption of alcohol   In the world not per capita but overall volume...

 

Not it only does thailand has an alcohol problem from teenagers to older males, it has an alcohol- violence problem from murder to vehicular death to suicide....

 

thailand numbers in comparative country rankings are far closer to unfavorable rankings than to the average...

 

and benign situations involving alcohol and ending in violence catch tourists and ex pats culturally by surprise...

 

you can say South Africa Mexico and Thailand all in one sentence regarding disproportionately  bad outcomes for tourists...

[Rimmer]

A troll post and a reply have been removed

[jenny2017]

7 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

'We are all just visitors'... eeer No. Some of us live here permanent.

Even after 15 years of constantly living here, I'm not more than a guest. Otherwise I'd already have a Thai passport and perhaps the right to buy land. 

 

   Okay, let's rename it to long time visitors then. 

[edwarda909]

Reminds me what an expat living in Phuket told me on my first visit to Thailand,  "Thailand is a safe place, just stay away from drunk Thai mean."

[quinzinho]

A farang life in Thailand is worth less than that of a soi dog. Time to realize it for those who hadn't.

 

[riverhigh]

16 minutes ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

'We are all just visitors'... eeer No. Some of us live here permanent.

Regardless of whether you live temporarly or permanently here, you will always will be a guest/visitor. Without citizenship, which has seldom been given out in recent times,  you are a nobody. You cannot own land and all the impotant status jobs are reserved for Thai nationals. Even if you have "permanent residency" its a small step above a regular "guest/visitor" visa with few privileges ... you still can't own land and have a status job.

Edited May 3, 2018 by riverhigh

[over2you]

42 minutes ago, ekkamai said:

I think there is an undelying problem here, which is much more worrying. Negative attitude towards foreigners - be it expats or just tourists. 

Sadly I think that you have a very valid point. That, plus the jealousy among many Thai men that Thai women prefer Farangs.

Certainly amongst a high proportion of divorced/seperated/abandoned Thai women, this is often stated a "I don't like Thai man"

But it's Thai women (mothers) who teach their male offsprings that they are superior beings.