1 minute ago, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with separating pre-pubescent and pubescent boys and girls, nor is it in any way weird or homosexual to do so. 

It’s not an attack on the fabric of society or the masculinity of men to stop separating kids by gender.

 

I see Freud used nasty trickery to drop homosexuality into the discussion... 

This leaves me with a question.

  Why do they want the girls to join a boys  club?

Just now, UncleTouchyFingers said:

 

There is absolutely nothing wrong with separating pre-pubescent and pubescent boys and girls, nor is it in any way weird or homosexual to do so. 

Are you advocating segregated schools? Of course it's wrong. Kids need equal exposure to boys and girls in order to develop a balanced perspective.

 

And it's impossible to divorce sexuality completely from anything to do with people (scouts, I am assuming (as opposed to cubs), are post-pubescent - see anecdotes above).

 

20 minutes ago, CharlesSwann said:

 

Yes, it does smack of female empowerment, but scouts I knew as a kid were all a bit... how can I put it... a bit strange... over-eager... and I viewed with suspicion any boy who craved the company of other boys so much. With lasses involved I might have been more interested, so recruitment-wise it's surely a smart move.

You go to Cubs/Scouts to do boy things, like tying knots and making camps and building fires .

  You can go to youth clubs to see girls .

Saying that you would have joined the cubs if  that you could have associated with 11 year old girls, seems a bit odd 

17 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

One would be well advised to look up the word misogyny in the dictionary before using it to insult someone.

 

It is hard to see how the word applies to a light hearted comment about boys. I'm only shocked the race card hasn't been played yet.

 

As a former Boy Scout, I can verify that things are going to get very awkward on camping trips. I remember one sailing trip there were 20 of us bunked in a cabin. We'd all make pretend erection bulges in our sheets whenever someone shouted "Prepare to tent".... then pretend to jerk off as someone shouted "tent, ho"... immature stuff for sure but I think it was wise to keep us away from the Girl Guides.

 

All institutions will be broken down by the PC brigade until they have taken the fun out of everything to their satisfaction. Of course - if they survive that long.

What's so difficult?  Simply have a tent for the girls, and a tent for the boys.  

19 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I see Freud used nasty trickery to drop homosexuality into the discussion... 

 

Please direct your comments to this man, because thats what the comment was directed towards. If you took the time to read before you posted you would see that. 
 

29 minutes ago, CharlesSwann said:

but scouts I knew as a kid were all a bit... how can I put it... a bit strange... over-eager... and I viewed with suspicion any boy who craved the company of other boys so much.

 

19 minutes ago, CharlesSwann said:

Are you advocating segregated schools?

 

I would like to introduce you to the definition of "straw man".

 

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A straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent.[1] 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

22 minutes ago, lovelomsak said:

This leaves me with a question.

  Why do they want the girls to join a boys  club?

My daughter would be a great candidate. All her mates are boys. She can’t stand dresses. Granted, she still has a teddy bear but dressing up to go sell cookies and learn to bake would horrify her. 

 

She’s happier fishing, getting dirty  and trying to be the pyromaniac her father once was. 

Now let's see what the Girl Scouts do. Maybe nothing. After all, excluding boys and men is OK. Excluding girls isn't. Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

41 minutes ago, samran said:

My daughter would be a great candidate. All her mates are boys. She can’t stand dresses. Granted, she still has a teddy bear but dressing up to go sell cookies and learn to bake would horrify her. 

 

She’s happier fishing, getting dirty  and trying to be the pyromaniac her father once was. 

And girls don't do such things?

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

You go to Cubs/Scouts to do boy things, like tying knots and making camps and building fires .

  You can go to youth clubs to see girls .

Saying that you would have joined the cubs if  that you could have associated with 11 year old girls, seems a bit odd 

So the girl-admission thing only relates to cubs, not scouts? If that was in the OP, I missed it - I was only talking about scouts (aged 11-17). My apologies.

 

Well, it's possible that this is creeping gender-neutralisation, but as far as I can see, that agenda is being pushed mainly by short-haired feminists (who else does it benefit?), so I'm not convinced.

1 hour ago, MajarTheLion said:

Now let's see what the Girl Scouts do. Maybe nothing. After all, excluding boys and men is OK. Excluding girls isn't. Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

Perhaps the girl guides have sufficient members that they don’t have to try to recruit boys.

 

Then on the other hand, perhaps they do indeed want to thumb their nose at a bunch of middle aged men with self esteem issues.

1 hour ago, MajarTheLion said:

Very flawed post. It's more likely liberals would whine about Star Wars. I have yet to see anyone blame erectile dysfunction on any immigrants. And as far as I can see, people are still free to be cutns to people's faces. Do you have anything to say that is factual?

Great profile photo, Freud is having a field day.

21 hours ago, pedro01 said:

 

One would be well advised to look up the word misogyny in the dictionary before using it to insult someone.

 

It is hard to see how the word applies to a light hearted comment about boys. I'm only shocked the race card hasn't been played yet.

 

As a former Boy Scout, I can verify that things are going to get very awkward on camping trips. I remember one sailing trip there were 20 of us bunked in a cabin. We'd all make pretend erection bulges in our sheets whenever someone shouted "Prepare to tent".... then pretend to jerk off as someone shouted "tent, ho"... immature stuff for sure but I think it was wise to keep us away from the Girl Guides.

 

All institutions will be broken down by the PC brigade until they have taken the fun out of everything to their satisfaction. Of course - if they survive that long.

True. Are there any hijinks left in the workplace? You know who sets the rules at home. Don't agree? You better or you are displaying your "toxic masculinity" and will be frowned upon by proud feminists. (Just searching for some of that equality I've heard so much about.)

4 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

Now let's see what the Girl Scouts do. Maybe nothing. After all, excluding boys and men is OK. Excluding girls isn't. Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

Except of course that the Girl Scouts are complaining about the Boy Scouts accepting girls. So your implication that there is a double standard on their part is nonsense. I guess that's what happens when you're running on automatic pilot. Pay attention.

4 hours ago, MajarTheLion said:

Now let's see what the Girl Scouts do. Maybe nothing. After all, excluding boys and men is OK. Excluding girls isn't. Liberalism is truly a mental disease.

Except of course that the Girl Scouts are complaining about the Boy Scouts accepting girls. So your implication that there is a double standard on their part is nonsense. I guess that's what happens when you're running on automatic pilot. Pay attention.

A lot of ranting about feminists (who for some reason must have short hair) and Political Correctness.

 

But where is the evidence that feminists or Politicsl Correctness had any part to play in this decision by the scouts?

 

Anybody have this evidence???

There is none. 
What we've seen here is yet another knee jerk reaction, emphasis on the jerk part. 

7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Bizarre attempt at deflection. But the fact of the matter is on gay rights, women's rights, civil rights, and religion, your side is losing all the battles. Big time.

Political parties have much less to do with these civil rights issues than many people think. Nothing is ever given, it is taken.  When critical mass is achieved and enough people take what they feel is their right to have the courts, then the political parties get in line and pretend they led the fight.

7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

And yet, oddly enough, the cultural values of the young increasingly align with those advanced by liberals. 

 

In your lifetime when was that ever not the case?

6 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

‘Winning the culture war’ = Feeling their manhood battered and bruised because the Scouts rebrand their organization to welcome girls into the same branch as the boys.

 

The corporatocracy would love your use of the word branding. Brand girls, brand boys but whatever you do don't stop the money flow.

6 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

This leaves me with a question.

  Why do they want the girls to join a boys  club?

 

 

Money. Not unlike the Catholic church the BSA was rocked by some sexual assault scandals with huge payouts. How admitting girls fixes any of that, I have no idea.

48 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

In your lifetime when was that ever not the case?

Except that unlike the widely believed perception that people grow politically more conservative with age, there's plenty of evidence to show that where cultural values are concerned,, there's no going back. 

34 minutes ago, lannarebirth said:

 

 

Money. Not unlike the Catholic church the BSA was rocked by some sexual assault scandals with huge payouts. How admitting girls fixes any of that, I have no idea.

It's pretty simple, actually. The Boy Scouts' membership is rapidly shrinking. To keep everyone working there employed, they need more revenue. Hence more members.

14 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

It's pretty simple, actually. The Boy Scouts' membership is rapidly shrinking. To keep everyone working there employed, they need more revenue. Hence more members.

 

It is the nature of all organizations. Where once they were created to serve a constituency or membership, in the end it exists solely to propagate and serve itself.

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

It's pretty simple, actually. The Boy Scouts' membership is rapidly shrinking. To keep everyone working there employed, they need more revenue. Hence more members.

No, I meant how does it fix the problem of those who would abuse children. If I'm the parent of a girl I don't see a barrier broken I see an unnecessary introduction of risk. They've already got the YWCA to worry about. I haven't heard about any grooming being done in the Girl Scouts so that's where I'd send my child, so long as they kept boys out.

12 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Bizarre attempt at deflection. But the fact of the matter is on gay rights, women's rights, civil rights, and religion, your side is losing all the battles. Big time.

Anyone using the phrase “you people” not only has lost the argument but the plot as well. 

Off topic trolling posts and the replies have been removed. 

7 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

It is the nature of all organizations. Where once they were created to serve a constituency or membership, in the end it exists solely to propagate and serve itself.

A little thought on who the Scouts organizations were meant to serve when they were founded might be in order.

57 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

A little thought on who the Scouts organizations were meant to serve when they were founded might be in order.

Yes, boys; I agree. It says so in their Congressional Charter:

 

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The purpose of the corporation shall be to promote, through organization, and cooperation with other agencies, the ability of boys to do things for themselves and others, to train them in Scoutcraft, and to teach them patriotism, courage, self-reliance, and kindred virtues, using the methods which are now in common use by Boy Scouts.

https://blog.scoutingmagazine.org/2016/06/15/june-15-1916-woodrow-wilson-made-bsa-official/