Trump lawyer Giuliani does not rule out payments were made to other women

[webfact]

Trump lawyer Giuliani does not rule out payments were made to other women

By Timothy Gardner

 

FILE PHOTO: A combination photo shows Adult film actress Stephanie Clifford, also known as Stormy Daniels speaking in New York City, and U.S. President Donald Trump speaking in Washington, Michigan, U.S. on April 16, 2018 and April 28, 2018 respectively. . REUTERS/Brendan Mcdermid (L) REUTERS/Joshua Roberts (R)/File Photos

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump's attorney, Rudy Giuliani, said on Sunday he would not rule out the possibility that payments were made to women other than porn star Stormy Daniels to get them to stay silent about allegations against Trump.

 

Giuliani told ABC's "This Week" that he had no knowledge of whether former Trump attorney Michael Cohen had made other payments, but he said: "I would think if it was necessary, yes. He (Cohen) made payments for the president or he's conducted business for the president."

 

Giuliani called the $130,000 (£96,043) Cohen paid to Daniels in 2016 a "nuisance payment." Daniels alleges that she had a sexual encounter with Trump in 2006. Trump has denied Daniels' allegations.

 

Cohen, Trump's longtime personal lawyer, faces a criminal investigation in part over the payment to Daniels, whose real name is Stephanie Clifford.

 

Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti, accused Trump of having an "extramarital affair slush fund" and told ABC he believed similar payments had been made to other women.

 

Disclosure of additional payments could complicate matters for Trump, who initially denied knowledge that money was paid to Daniels.

 

Giuliani said on Friday that Cohen's payment to Daniels -- one month before the November 2016 presidential election -- did not violate campaign laws and would have been made even if Trump had not been running.

 

During a Fox News interview earlier in the week, Giuliani did link the payment to the presidential campaign and acknowledged for the first time that Trump had been aware of the payment. He told the New York Times later that Trump reimbursed Cohen a total of $460,000 or $470,000 after the campaign was over, which he said included "incidental expenses."

 

Cohen is no longer Trump's attorney, Giuliani said. "It would be a conflict right now for him to be the president's attorney," he told ABC.

Avenatti has said his team has been approached by multiple other women about Trump and he believed evidence would emerge of similar payments.

 

"The president had effectively an extramarital affair slush fund that was administered by Michael Cohen and that he would just be expected to take care of these things," he said on ABC.

 

"They were a regular occurrence. I mean, that in and of itself should be very disturbing."

 

Senior White House adviser Kellyanne Conway said she was not aware of any other possible payoffs. "They didn't cross my desk as campaign manager," she told CNN's "State of the Union."

 

'FAST-MOVING' EXCHANGE

 

Trump told reporters last month on Air Force One he did not know about the payment to Daniels. Conway said Trump meant to say he did not know about the payment at the time it was made.

 

"The 'no' refers to when the payment occurred," she told CNN. "It was a fast-moving exchange. I asked the president what he meant and he said: 'I didn't know about it when the payment occurred.'"

 

Norman Eisen, ethics chief under Trump predecessor Democrat Barack Obama, said any such payments would have constituted campaign contributions if they were intended to influence the election, even if they were also made with the "partial motive of protecting the Trump family from embarrassment."

 

If Trump intended to reimburse Cohen for such payments, they should have been reported by the president on a 2017 financial disclosure form that required him to state his financial liabilities, Eisen said. The omission of those debts could have violated a federal law that prohibits wilfully making false statements to the U.S. government, he told Reuters.

 

"The more Mr. Giuliani talks, the worse Mr. Trump's legal situation becomes," Eisen said.

 

Giuliani said that any payments made by Cohen would not have violated federal election law because they would have been made to protect Trump's family or for other personal reasons unrelated to the campaign.

 

But some legal experts said the timing of additional payments could undercut that argument by showing a pattern of behaviour.

 

"If he had a practice of doing this during the campaign -- and Cohen was hired to deal with it -- it's harder to argue that this had nothing to do with the election," said Jens David Ohlin, a professor at Cornell Law School.

 

Ohlin said, however, that it was not clear that Trump's retainer agreement with Cohen created a financial obligation that should have been disclosed.

 

"I'm not sure this qualifies as a loan repayment," he said.

 

Ohlin also said an omission on a disclosure form would typically result in a civil penalty rather than a criminal prosecution for violating the law against making false statements to the government.

 

(Reporting by Timothy Gardner; Additional reporting by Doina Chiacu and Caren Bohan in Washington and Jan Wolfe in New York; Editing by Peter Cooney and Sandra Maler)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-05-07

[Chomper Higgot]

The lid is lifting on this particular tin of stinking worms.

 

There’s a payment of $1,600,000 that’s been explained but the explanation makes no sense at all.

 

Get you pop corn.

[halloween]

My finances were stretched paying off the women I have shagged, must be expensive paying off all those he hasn't. I suppose there has to be a reasonable reward for any woman willing to admit to such a lack of discernment, true or not.

[Chomper Higgot]

Please sit down Mr Broidy.

 

Now tell us what really happened.

[Cats4ever]

Looks like we have today's version of the truth.

[lovelomsak]

Powerful guys have many women so what they all do it.

  Bob Hope used to keep some near his home so he could say he was popping out to for a moment from home and go play with his Gf at the time.or stop in on the way home. One of the Kennedy's used to go to brothels and hire all the women for his own private parties. There is stories of him in South America letting his driver join him in his orgies with all the women from a brothel. Power and women go hand in hand grow up folks.

 

Edited May 7, 2018 by lovelomsak

[Credo]

Now to find the names of the Russian hookers and how much they got paid and whether they will talk.   

[Expatthailover]

Oh dont you just love geriatric Giuliani?

He really is a poster boy for the popcorn and comfy armchair brigade. 

He isnt fussy about which foot he puts into his mouth.

Confirming what we all knew about depraved don ..... if he sees a pus$y he just go's ahead and grabs it ( according to his recordings )

Those making excuses for this abomination of a president  ( and human being) really need to take a long hard look at themselves.

Every day he further shames the office and history of what should be the epitome of decency and honour. 

But hey while he has wrecking ball rudy in his corner we can have some fun watching trouble magnet trump unravel

[Silurian]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Daniels' lawyer, Michael Avenatti, accused Trump of having an "extramarital affair slush fund" and told ABC he believed similar payments had been made to other women.

 

An "extramarital affair slush fund", just got to love Avenatti. He boiled it down to the basics. The reality TV president socks away money to pay off women to refrain from talking about having sex with him. Some people have 401(K)s, some people have college funds, some people have medical savings but only the perverse elite have sex hush funds.

 

It also makes it easier when Cohen and the other sides lawyer (aka Keith M. Davidson) are in cahoots as well. Even now Cohen and Davidson are coordinating their stories. Need to get all those ducks in a row.

 

 

[Silurian]

Can't have those pesky "facts" get in the way of the law.

 

Giuliani: I'm 'focused on the law more than the facts right now'

 

Quote

Trump on Friday said Giuliani was still getting his facts straight in the early days of his time on the President's legal team...

 

So now there are Giuliani "alternative facts" as well. It is so hard to keep track of all these so called "facts".

 

With such a lying WH and the corresponding sycophants, it is doubtful we will ever know the actual truth.

 

[Destiny1990]

He seem to like cheap sluts with big fake tits..

 

[Tchooptip]

It is Melania Trump who must be happy with  all this circus!

[Thailand]

9 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

It is Melania Trump who must be happy with  all this circus!

Checking the prenup right this minute.

[RobFord]

14 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said:

He seem to like cheap sluts with big fake tits..

 

 

[kamahele]

I would joke that Giuliani is the gift that just keeps on giving but the unfortunate fact of the matter is that this type of behavior out of the White House has been normalized under Trump and accepted by his followers. 

[Stargeezr]

Sorry Rudy , but you are now working with Americas biggest hippocrite.

  NRA must have given Trump a bit of coin for him to flip to their cause.

Trump IS Scum!

Geezer

[BuriramSam]

Of course logic dictates payments were made to other women, given Trump has been in the public eye for decades. A quick scan of the replies here indicates people don't understand how this can cut two ways. They have one way down pat. I will observe this thread and see if anyone else understands how this can just add easily... GASP... Help Trump. 

[NanLaew]

2 hours ago, lovelomsak said:

Powerful guys have many women so what they all do it.

  Bob Hope used to keep some near his home so he could say he was popping out to for a moment from home and go play with his Gf at the time.or stop in on the way home. One of the Kennedy's used to go to brothels and hire all the women for his own private parties. There is stories of him in South America letting his driver join him in his orgies with all the women from a brothel. Power and women go hand in hand grow up folks.

 

So how on earth did Harvey Weinstein get it so wrong?

[riclag]

PT was DT, Celebrity Billionaire ,womanizer, turn POTUS. Everyone knew that before.The left can't get over it. Maybe they don't want Americans enjoying the lowest unemployment in decades,3.9%.It's obvious they don't want to denuke NK or IRan, at least not by him .Also, no mention of destroying the ISis Caliphate .He dodged the access hollywood tape he'll get out of this  non presidential event.

[Destiny1990]

Trump can team up with Russians bang and pay of uncountable porn star hookers. Obama would have been lynched long time ago.  

[BuriramSam]

13 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

So how on earth did Harvey Weinstein get it so wrong?

He really didn't. Who'd have thought Hollywood would ever decide to get some (phony and temporary) morals?

[metisdead]

A troll post containing incorrect assumptions has been removed. 

[Rimmer]

A personal attack complete with an off topic picture has been removed also a reply

[mike324]

2 hours ago, riclag said:

PT was DT, Celebrity Billionaire ,womanizer, turn POTUS. Everyone knew that before.The left can't get over it. Maybe they don't want Americans enjoying the lowest unemployment in decades,3.9%.It's obvious they don't want to denuke NK or IRan, at least not by him .Also, no mention of destroying the ISis Caliphate .He dodged the access hollywood tape he'll get out of this  non presidential event.

 

Where did you get your data of lowest unemployment? Don't you remember Trump said that data was fake and made up! Oh how convenient to call that data real, now that it reflect positively on Trump! Really don't understand why Trump supporters flip flop back and forth with these facts.

Edited May 7, 2018 by mike324

[sammieuk1]

Gale Typhoon Cyclone Hurricane and deep depression are coming for Don.

[BuriramSam]

12 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

Gale Typhoon Cyclone Hurricane and deep depression are coming for Don.

I'm not so sure. He wasn't supposed to win the nomination. He certainly wasn't supposed to win the general election. I see lots of feces being flung about. For example, obstruction of justice. Trump fired Comey on the very day Rod Rosenstein recommended Comey be fired. How do you get to obstruction of justice from there? 

Edited May 7, 2018 by BuriramSam
Typo

[Tchooptip]

I have always been so old school that even young and handsome I was not unfaithful  with my female companions out of principle  

[riclag]

3 hours ago, mike324 said:

 

Where did you get your data of lowest unemployment? Don't you remember Trump said that data was fake and made up! Oh how convenient to call that data real, now that it reflect positively on Trump! Really don't understand why Trump supporters flip flop back and forth with these facts.

Unemployment 3.9%

"The drop of two-tenths of a percentage point in the unemployment rate from 4.1 percent in March pushed it to a level last seen in December 2000 and within striking distance of the Fed’s forecast of 3.8 percent by the end of this year. It was the first time in six months that the jobless rate dropped".

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-economy-jobs/u-s-job-growth-rebounds-modestly-unemployment-rate-hits-3-9-percent-idUSKBN1I508J

Like I said in my previous post American's know and have known way before about the greatest show on earth,one of the most flamboyant Billionaires in modern times.

One might ask ,who would ever vote for someone who exaggerates ,twists and shouts via tweets and the only person that could  rival Hugh Hefner for scooping up the ladies.  America was facing  desperate times,back in 2014-2015 ,economy and Isis were huge issues. Enter the guy who has a nickname for all the swamp dwellers.Enter the guy every liberal hates. Enter the man who was considered one of the most successful business men in the world.Enter MAGA

 

 

Edited May 7, 2018 by riclag

[RobFord]

7 hours ago, riclag said:

PT was DT, Celebrity Billionaire ,womanizer, turn POTUS. Everyone knew that before.The left can't get over it. Maybe they don't want Americans enjoying the lowest unemployment in decades,3.9%.It's obvious they don't want to denuke NK or IRan, at least not by him .Also, no mention of destroying the ISis Caliphate .He dodged the access hollywood tape he'll get out of this  non presidential event.

So Cohen is a mobster laundering money. I’m sure Trump is going to put this putz to shame.

 

“His companies would buy a building, often in cash. Soon after, they would flip the building in another all-cash deal for four or five times the previous purchase price. The buyer was generally another limited liability company.”

 

Cohen is looking at serious time for numerous fraud activities.

 

Read it and weep.

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/business/michael-cohen-lawyer-trump.html?emc=edit_th_180506&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=328161480506

 

[BuriramSam]

4 minutes ago, RobFord said:

So Cohen is a mobster laundering money. I’m sure Trump is going to put this putz to shame.

 

“His companies would buy a building, often in cash. Soon after, they would flip the building in another all-cash deal for four or five times the previous purchase price. The buyer was generally another limited liability company.”

 

Cohen is looking at serious time for numerous fraud activities.

 

Read it and weep.

 

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2018/05/05/business/michael-cohen-lawyer-trump.html?emc=edit_th_180506&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=328161480506

 

I peeked at the NY Times piece- pretty long. Logic would dictate that since you are accusing Cohen of fraud, your example of chicanery posted would be that of fraud. How is flipping properties fraud?